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Apartments and Shopping, on the same Lot!

by MogHughson Posted 6th Jul 2009 at 2:08 AM - Updated 11th Jan 2014 at 6:18 PM by Nysha
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This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.
*Updated 11th July 2010*
Added H&M Objects and some fixes - see section below
I've always wanted to build a High Street lot where there were shops on the ground floor and apartments above them. When the Apartment Life EP came out I was sure this would be possible, but I was disappointed. This mod brings you the very few changes that are necessary in order to make it possible. You can now build a combo-lot, one that is residential (specifically apartments) but with a community lot flavour too. The lot will be an apartment lot when you make it, not a community lot, so you cannot send Sims to it like a community lot.

This mod will spawn the required NPCs for objects, for example, a Clerk to manage a cash register. This mod does not spawn additional visitors, as with your neighbours, the landlord/lady and walk-bys there will be quite enough people on the lot as it is.

Various objects are 'fixed' in this package to allow them to be used on such a lot. If you find a community object that you want to use on such a combo-lot doesn't work (or doesn't work correctly), press the appropriate button below to check whether it is part of the package, and either way, let me know so I can fix it or add it.

I have also built an example lot to show you what I was imagining as I made this. I hope this encourages you to make other combo lots.

Home Business are also disabled by Maxis on Apartment Lots. This mod does not change that fact.

Expansion Pack Requirements
This mod only requires you to have the Apartment Life EP. It has been tested using the AnyGameStarter in exactly such a configuration. If you also have other EPs, the community objects from those EPs will also be able to work in this sort of combo lot.

Building a combo Apartment/Community Lot to use with this mod
In order to make a lot that has community lot features (e.g. shops) and apartments as well you must follow these instructions. Ensure that any community lot features are not contained within an apartment or they will (deliberately) not function as community lot items. For example, if you place a cash register inside an apartment, a Clerk will not be spawned to operate it.
  1. Start by building a residential lot (this is necessary for the apartment to work later).
  2. Build your lot as far as you can - you will notice that the community lot buy mode stuff is not available.
  3. In the cheats window type changeLotZoning community
  4. Save and exit the lot
  5. Re-enter the lot (you'll note it says it is a community lot as you enter it now)
  6. Finish your building with whatever community lot peices you want
  7. In the cheats window type changeLotZoning apartmentbase - you will notice the mail box changes shape from the residential style mailbox to the apartment style mailbox
  8. Save and exit the lot
While there are no families living on your lot you can repeat these steps as often as you require. If you need to make changes after a family has moved in, you must move them out first.

Take it easy with objects that spawn NPCs as having lots of extra Sims in your lot all the time may well cause your game to run slower. The various objects that spawn NPCs are marked with * in the lists below.

For those of you interested in the gory detail (or trying to work out if your favourite community object will work in a combo lot) click here.

This mod clashes with Pescado's No Auto Pet Buy mod. The alternative download removes the Pet Displays from the objects that can be used correctly on a combo-lot and thus removes the clash.

Mod note: This mod also clashes with Sophie-David's Buy Clothes Anywhere patch. If you want to use both, you should download the edited version of Apartments and Shopping from the Buy Clothes Anywhere thread.

I don't know of any other mods that this mod clashes with, but there is always the possibility. The pertinent information for the owner of the other object is here.


Cheers
Mog

Update History
20August2009
  • Alternative download provided that does not contain the fixes to allow Pet displays to work since they clash with Pescado's No Auto Pet Buy mod - as requested by KevinTMC who also found the clash.
11July2010
  • Fixed bars so they work.
  • Fixed collar display so it works
  • Number of restaurant servers is based on the number of tables in the same room as the podium (just like in hotels).
  • Added various items from H&M SP now that I have it.
Additional Credits:
Quaxi for SimPEwiki.
Numenor for the AnyGameStarter.
Thanks to KevinTMC for reporting a mod clash.

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 2 Apartment Life
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Alchemist
#26 Old 7th Jul 2009 at 1:38 PM
This looks really good. Are you thinking of trying to get home businesses to work for apartments as well?

Even this much is wonderful, thankyou again.
Test Subject
#27 Old 8th Jul 2009 at 3:46 PM
i wanted to say thanks this way,i tried it and it works great,i love it...rev.jim...
Test Subject
#28 Old 8th Jul 2009 at 6:01 PM
this is great. Apartments over shops have been around since ancient Rome, if not before.

Bellum in Gallia malum, sed in maetella taetrum!
Miss BHAVing
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Original Poster
#29 Old 8th Jul 2009 at 7:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aelflaed
This looks really good. Are you thinking of trying to get home businesses to work for apartments as well?
Maybe - I think that's harder than this (which is no doubt why Maxi's disallowed it). Main thoughts are how to lay it out - presumably all of the Home owned business would need to be within the Apartment boundaries rather than in common areas or you could place anything. I haven't really looked yet, but it crossed my mind whilst making this.
Test Subject
#30 Old 9th Jul 2009 at 4:35 AM
what a great idea! i don't have Apts cause i play on a Mac, but i just wanted to say WOW! it's fantastic that you made this a possibility. my PC playing friends are going to love this...off to email them this link!
Test Subject
#31 Old 12th Jul 2009 at 3:46 AM
This is AMAZING! I need to add this! SQUEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
Field Researcher
#32 Old 15th Jul 2009 at 5:59 PM Last edited by mocha0030 : 16th Jul 2009 at 1:12 AM.
can you make the makeover chairs spawn npc's?
Miss BHAVing
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Original Poster
#33 Old 19th Jul 2009 at 3:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mocha0030
can you make the makeover chairs spawn npc's?
I am currently working on that one - there is one thing I cannot make quite work yet, but when I do I will add it to the package. I decided it was worth getting the package up even without it in the mean time. Watch for a future update that will hopefully contain it.

Cheers
Mog
Field Researcher
#34 Old 19th Jul 2009 at 7:50 PM
Thank you!!!

btw, i made a lot using your wonderful mod! if you have time, you can check it out here. i wanted to make a beauty parlor instead of the Starbucks, but since you're working on it, i'll save that for the next lot. i really hope you can get it to work. thanks again for making this.
Test Subject
#35 Old 20th Jul 2009 at 7:07 PM
I downloaded this as soon as I saw it, yet another stroke of genius from yourself. I'm just about to start a little peasant village using this mod. If you don't mind, I have a couple of questions. Do the apartments need to be above the shops and is CC a bad idea, as in custom food bins/magazine racks? As my neighbourhood is medievalish I want it to fit in. I'll work with Maxis if I have to though, what a great mod, thank you. On a seperate note, I spoke to you before about a mod that I would like to see, as I'm here writing this now I wondered if you'd managed to look into that to see if it's at least possible.
Miss BHAVing
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#36 Old 20th Jul 2009 at 7:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladymiriam
I have a couple of questions. Do the apartments need to be above the shops and is CC a bad idea, as in custom food bins/magazine racks? As my neighbourhood is medievalish I want it to fit in.
The apartments do not need to be above the shops - that was just the way I imagined it. The only restriction is that the shops are not inside apartments - they must be in common areas or the community lot items will not work as they would on community lots - for example a clerk will not be spawned to act as a cashier if you put it in your kitchen inside an apartment.

Regarding Custom Content, I started to write a really complicated answer and then decided it was easier, for me and you, if I updated the thread to show which objects would work for CC too. In all cases recolors will work just fine. Click on the button that opens up the long lists of objects to see which ones will allow CC versions (clones) to work too.

Cheers
Mog
Test Subject
#37 Old 21st Jul 2009 at 10:46 AM
Thanks for the update. This is great, hardly anything won't work and I can build my lot pretty much as I would like to. A million thank yous.
Lab Assistant
#38 Old 23rd Jul 2009 at 6:58 AM
W-O-W!
Thanks a lot for this, Mog! Exceptional! Always wanted this! :D
You've inspired me to create all my lots now. xD
So now I am, and my high-street place is coming along fabulously.

Nintendo Freak
Lab Assistant
#39 Old 28th Jul 2009 at 5:54 PM
Thank you for the mod and the idea! I also made a lot inspired by your work and uploaded it here at MTS, if interested - here is the link. Good luck with your project and thanks again!
Field Researcher
#40 Old 1st Aug 2009 at 5:48 PM
thanks for this, i can't wait to try it out i'm actually moving next month to a condo that is built in this style - shopping district on the ground floor and condos above it, so i could recreate my new home!! very cool, thanks again. i know you are working on shop signs as well - any word when those will be available for download?
Test Subject
#41 Old 2nd Aug 2009 at 3:02 AM
Thank you so much~~
This makes the Sims 2 works like the Sims 3 to some extent.

Well, in my game the coffee stands and food stands work well, however the bartendar doesn't show up >-<(I've already used the nightlife version bars, all of them). Is that because I haven't installed the OFB and PETS?

Anyway, I really enjoy the change you've made to the game. Thanks again ^O^
Test Subject
#42 Old 4th Aug 2009 at 5:30 PM
Woop! I enjoy this! I've always wanted an Apt. over a store! How many people have told you that you're awesometasticlicious? You should start a tally board. :D

"911, what's you emergency?"
"My goldfish drowned!"
"......."
Sesquipedalian Pisciform
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#43 Old 4th Aug 2009 at 6:51 PM
Talk about late to the party? How could I have missed this? You are inspiring me to build again - thank you so much.

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Instructor
#44 Old 4th Aug 2009 at 7:06 PM
You're a star!
Test Subject
#45 Old 5th Aug 2009 at 2:31 AM
Hey, so I downloaded this today, (note comment from earlier), but when I went to go play, the custom content screen popped up and next to your thing there was an exclamation point. Is this bad? Should I not use it to make an Apartment-Store? I think it's a great thing, but I'm concered. Could you help me out? Thanks! :D

"911, what's you emergency?"
"My goldfish drowned!"
"......."
Miss BHAVing
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#46 Old 5th Aug 2009 at 6:42 PM Last edited by MogHughson : 9th Aug 2009 at 9:54 PM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by foxun
Well, in my game the coffee stands and food stands work well, however the bartendar doesn't show up >-<(I've already used the nightlife version bars, all of them). Is that because I haven't installed the OFB and PETS?
There is one bar that comes with the University EP that should generate a bartender - it is the "Way Fluid Island Bar". The bars that came with the base game do not generate a bartender (even on a community lot). Can you check which bar you are using to ensure it is the one listed on the main post (click on "Show which objects will work" and then on "Show entertainment related items" to see the list).

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatsHerFace
When I went to go play, the custom content screen popped up and next to your thing there was an exclamation point. Is this bad? Should I not use it to make an Apartment-Store? I think it's a great thing, but I'm concered. Could you help me out? Thanks! :D
The exclamation point simply means that this is a global hack - I think the text below the description of the mod in that window will say something like "over-rides semi-globals" or some such - which means the same thing. This mod is a global hack so that is quite normal.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kayleigh83
i know you are working on shop signs as well - any word when those will be available for download?
EDIT: They are available now here.

Cheers
Mog
Forum Resident
#47 Old 6th Aug 2009 at 5:24 AM
Marvelous!

Thank you.
Scholar
#48 Old 7th Aug 2009 at 8:12 AM
Perfect,will try it! Thank you!
Field Researcher
#49 Old 9th Aug 2009 at 8:47 PM
*Sheep* This is amazing! The VERY first thing I tried to build with AL was a trailer park with a small flower shop in front. But now I can finally get it to work!
Test Subject
#50 Old 18th Aug 2009 at 8:41 PM
I'm having a problem. I have a lot like this that I got from another site. When I go into the lot its a community lot, so I put apartment doors on the apartments, and then I change the lot zoning to apartment based. When I go to move my Sim in it seems like it works, but when I get to the lot the only icons that will work are buy mode and build mode. Have I put the hack into the wrong folder, or am I not placing something on the lot that needs to be there?
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