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Show Hidden Skills and Stats with Bonsai of Wisdom

by CtfG Posted 5th Dec 2006 at 2:13 PM - Updated 2nd Apr 2008 at 11:20 AM by CtfG : Update FREETIME info
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Picked Upload! This is a picked upload! It showcases some of the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.
Due to many requests for the ability to display the "Hidden Skills" as shown in my TeenStar PC, here it is: a single object with the main function to show these skills and stats. I have prepared the code so that further options can be easily added.

The output is available in several languages now (thanks to all who sent me their language versions!). For any language you would like to see, please be so kind to send the translation by PM. I will implement it as soon as possible. Also post a reqeust here if you want to see further / different stats in the display.

Feel free to modifiy this object as you desire, but do not redistribute the original code and claim it as your own. And please do not upload this object to the Exchange. It is meant as free, and it should be free. Thank you.


Update 2006-12-06:
Updated with german text, as requested in german (should have done this right away...). Also added the line "Vacation days" which is shown in hundreds of the actual vacation days (I didn't have the nerve to find out how to set decimal points for formatted output).

Update 2006-12-07: Updated with korean text. Thanks to yhw2002world for the translation.

Update 2007-03-02: Updated with
- Spanish (translation by Lofidi)
- French (translation by MiniMimi)
- Italian (translation by Cicciograna)


Update 2007-03-29
This object works with SEASONS. No modifications necessary.
Added danish language. Translation by Ydrill. Compressed files now, therefore a smaller package. Please re-download if you want / need all the texts in Danish. Thanks to Ydrill.


Update 2008-01-08
This object works with EP6 - Bon Voyage. No changes necessary.


Update 2008-04-02
This object works with EP7 FreeTime. No changes necessary.


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Tags: #hidden, #skills, #stats

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Lord_Morgan
Lab Assistant
#2 Old 5th Dec 2006 at 2:23 PM
Very cool. Always wondered, though, what's the romance hidden skill about? Higher success chance in flirting interactions or something else?
Baskar
Lab Assistant
#3 Old 5th Dec 2006 at 2:25 PM
cool beans.
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kitcat
Forum Resident
#4 Old 5th Dec 2006 at 3:04 PM
nice mod!!!
kormu
Test Subject
#5 Old 5th Dec 2006 at 3:24 PM
really nice mod, now i can do some test's i always wanted to do.
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lrdmvd
Test Subject
#6 Old 5th Dec 2006 at 3:33 PM
very usefull! thank you very much !
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patul
Mad Poster
#7 Old 5th Dec 2006 at 4:43 PM
Really useful and easy ! thank you
You know a site allowing re-upload of free build/buy stuff in lots ? Help us to update the list !

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pinky_me
Test Subject
#8 Old 5th Dec 2006 at 5:56 PM
what are the uses of these hidden skills?
povilas_god
Test Subject
#9 Old 5th Dec 2006 at 7:36 PM
thank you, where did you found this stuff?
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BrokenLit
Lab Assistant
#10 Old 5th Dec 2006 at 7:43 PM
I've always wondered, unless you alter things in SimPE, so any sims actually have a natural preference for their own gender? I downloaded a hack that allows sims to ask other sims about their gender preference and I've yet to come across a homosexual sim in my game. :\
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shat
Lab Assistant
#11 Old 5th Dec 2006 at 8:29 PM
Cool, but I just use the InSIMenator for that stuff.
Sadisticpyro
Instructor
#12 Old 5th Dec 2006 at 9:44 PM
Awesome creation for those of us who are too chicken to download SimPE or don't have Insim.

Also, can we modify the hidden stats?
Corylea
Top Secret Researcher
#13 Old 5th Dec 2006 at 10:02 PM
Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool!
I've made some mods for The Sims 1 -- yes, The Sims ONE :-) -- which you can find at http://corylea.com/Sims1ModsByCorylea.html
bbeellllee
Test Subject
#14 Old 5th Dec 2006 at 10:47 PM
Is there a way to change the stats or have you not gotten that far? It would be great so you can really characterize the personalities and stuff!
Sizza
Forum Resident
#15 Old 5th Dec 2006 at 11:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokenLit
I've always wondered, unless you alter things in SimPE, so any sims actually have a natural preference for their own gender? I downloaded a hack that allows sims to ask other sims about their gender preference and I've yet to come across a homosexual sim in my game. :\


I've used boolprop to show the gender preference and at least once has a sim of mine turned out to be homosexual and I used it BEFORE I let her cheack out or flirt.
myfakereality
Test Subject
#16 Old 6th Dec 2006 at 6:31 AM
i dont get what this whole download thing is about.. it doesnt explain in the explain part thingy. whats the deal with these 'hidden skills'? can i ask that?
windgirl
Lab Assistant
#17 Old 6th Dec 2006 at 9:14 AM
This is going to make a whole lot of things much, much easier. Works with all EPs, yes? Hurrah for you
CtfG
Field Researcher
Original Poster
#18 Old 6th Dec 2006 at 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Morgan
Very cool. Always wondered, though, what's the romance hidden skill about? Higher success chance in flirting interactions or something else?

Sims feel more attracted to sims who have a high romance value. But what I learned from testing while writing that function is: the aspiration "Romance" still has a much higher priority.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bbeellllee
Is there a way to change the stats or have you not gotten that far? It would be great so you can really characterize the personalities and stuff!

Actually, you rise these hidden stuff when you practice them. "Romance" with any mirror, "Meditation" is available as soon as a sim has 3 points in the logic skill, "Dancing" by - um, dancing *g* and so on. See further below for gender preference.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokenLit
I've always wondered, unless you alter things in SimPE, so any sims actually have a natural preference for their own gender? I downloaded a hack that allows sims to ask other sims about their gender preference and I've yet to come across a homosexual sim in my game. :\

The gender preference is set to zero for both genders when you create a sim. But... Each and every romantic action, even "Flirt - Check out" moves the preference to the gender of the selected sim. And some of the Maxis' pre-fabricated sims already have a certain preference which will influence your game. So, if you play community lots very often, chances are high that your sims who are not actively selected at time of play, get moved into any direction, depending on the actions which are performed on them and which they perform themselves. This is a - IMHO - major problem since NightLife came out, since even happily married sims can be made homo just by receiving lots of flirt actions from a sim who is of their own gender. It doesn't even matter if the flirt is accepted or rejected; it moves into that direction anyway.

Quote:
Originally Posted by myfakereality
i dont get what this whole download thing is about.. it doesnt explain in the explain part thingy. whats the deal with these 'hidden skills'? can i ask that?

Sure These hidden stats are values you usually do not see but which influence the game in some ways. Kids and teens who did not learn how to do homework need ~2 hrs. to finish them, but when they learned how to do them, they need just ~1 hr. Dancing, on the other hand, will result in a scholarship for teens, if they have 8 or more points in it. The higher the Pool skill, the better are the chances to win a pool bet. And so on. Hope this helps.

Quote:
Originally Posted by povilas_god
thank you, where did you found this stuff?

By examining what happens if one selects "Practice Romance" or "Dance alone" or "Meditate" from the pie menus. Was a long way, though


@Swennel: German translation will follow today. / Deutsche Übersetzung kommt noch heute.

@windgirl: Should work with all / any EP, yes.
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Lord jierda
Lab Assistant
#19 Old 6th Dec 2006 at 2:20 PM
awsome! great work thx !
Guilded by faith...probly....or was it...rly?
HenryJoe
Lab Assistant
#20 Old 6th Dec 2006 at 9:15 PM
Great idea CtfG. Thank you for sharing.
bethnrandy
Lab Assistant
#21 Old 7th Dec 2006 at 7:08 AM
ive tried on the mirror like a trillion times or more but still no rise in romance hidden skill; are you sure it is the mirror..if so is it the charisma skill or something else...great hack by the way!!!
CtfG
Field Researcher
Original Poster
#22 Old 7th Dec 2006 at 7:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bethnrandy
ive tried on the mirror like a trillion times or more but still no rise in romance hidden skill; are you sure it is the mirror..if so is it the charisma skill or something else...great hack by the way!!!


You're right; it's impossible to raise the romance skill with mirrors. This is a Maxis' fault / bug / whatever. Please check here for a fix: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=208570
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povilas_god
Test Subject
#23 Old 7th Dec 2006 at 7:35 PM
My sim keeps painting and painting, but his paingint is still 0, why is that?
Words of Wisdom:
Human stop think when he(she) stop read...
Old habits die hard...
The more you get, the more you want...
If you want a thingdone well, do it yourself...
CtfG
Field Researcher
Original Poster
#24 Old 7th Dec 2006 at 8:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by povilas_god
My sim keeps painting and painting, but his paingint is still 0, why is that?


Painting skill rises only when the sim has 10 skill points on painting. After that, every painting raises the skill by 5 points. To max the hidden skill, a sim thus needs 90 paintings plus 12 or 13 to get the visible skill maxed.

Happy painting! *g*
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flameflash
Field Researcher
#25 Old 8th Dec 2006 at 5:09 AM
Perfect!

Say, are there any hidden skills in later EPs? Would it be possible to add those?
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