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Simple Columns That Actually Fit

by Sophie-David Posted 22nd Dec 2007 at 12:20 AM - Updated 29th Feb 2012 at 9:47 PM by Sophie-David : Filesize reduced to 1/4 of the original
45 Comments / replies (Who?) - 24 Feedback Posts, 1 Thanks Posts
This is a new mesh, and means that it's a brand new self contained object that usually does not require a specific Expansion pack (although this is possible depending on the type). It may have Recolours hosted on MTS - check below the description for more information.
Title: Simple Columns That Actually Fit








Description

Perhaps Maxis was a bit short of pixels the day they designed the Sims 2 columns, because they are all too short. Ostensibly made to connect with the underside of the floor tile above it, even by this standard they fail to measure up, as shown below. If used within a room as a design element, these short columns look quite daft. And in their typical role of holding up a porch roof, they must do so by emitting a force field, because there is certainly no obvious physical connection.

By extending the base game's simple column by about 5% (more precisely 4.9%), the post connects reliably to both the floor tile above it, and is tall enough to give the impression that it may actually be supporting a porch roof. This optimal height is also compatible with the jgwhiteus ceiling tiles as shown on the right, above.

This little project came out of December's Creator Challenge, in which the default columns looked extremely silly pretending to support an attached carport, until I made the taller columns shown on the right:

For this application - a column that must be tall enough to reach from the ground to the top of a wall mounted on a foundation - I needed a post that was 31% taller than the standard (actually 31.3% taller). An alternative would be to mount a standard column on its own square foundation block, but this quite often looks out of place with a building's overall style. The picture below shows the 31% taller columns supporting a roofed entrance. A standard column is shown for reference.

These new columns use the repository technique to reference the recolours of the original. Please recolour the original simple column if you wish these posts to be available in other colours. I am indebted to the Slave Object Tutorial by IgnorantBliss for making a complex procedure easy.

The 5% taller columns cost §71, one Simolean more than the original (I dislike having custom content jump around within the catalogue, as it does when it is priced the same as the built-in version). The 31% taller columns cost only §2 more at §72 - I wish it worked that way at the lumber yard! :D


International Translations

Mihura has been kind enough to translate the amendments to these objects' titles and descriptions into French, German, Italian and Spanish.


Terms of Use

You may include either of these objects in uploaded lots, whether free or for pay. Please provide a credit and link back to this page. It would be nice if you sent me a PM with a link to your creation, but this is not strictly necessary. Please do not upload these columns otherwise than in lots.


Additional Credits:

SimPE and CEP, which together make it all possible
Milkshape 3D, for smoothly extending the height, and actually placing the column firmly on the ground (the original floats slightly above it)
Microsoft Photo Editor, for preparing the uploaded screen captures
Numenor's BaseGameStarter Pro and AnyGameStarter, so handy speeding up the development process


Polygon Counts:

Lot View: 94 faces, 158 vertices for each object, the same as the Maxis original.

Neighbourhood View: 20 faces, 32 vertices for each object, the same as the Maxis original.

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 2
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
SDcolumnvalue.zip | Full height simple columns for use on the ground and on foundations

Size: 20.4 KB · Downloads: 4,071 · 22nd Dec 2007
20.4 KB 4,071 22nd Dec 2007
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.

2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.

3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
  • Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows Vista/7/8/10: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows XP: Documents and Settings\(Current User Account)\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Mac: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads
  • Mac x64: /Library/Containers/com.aspyr.sims2.appstore/Data/Library/Application Support/Aspyr/The Sims 2/Downloads
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#2 Old 23rd Dec 2007 at 1:13 PM
Oh, an excellent idea. I'd done a default replacement of one type for my own game at one point but I hadn't even thought about ones for houses with foundations... I'd -love- to see these in more types... *hinthint*

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Scholar
#3 Old 23rd Dec 2007 at 1:37 PM
Just what we needed, SD. The originals drive me NUTS! Downloading now!
Lab Assistant
#4 Old 23rd Dec 2007 at 1:51 PM
I've been asking for something like this for a long long long time and I praise you for making some. I don't get either how EAxis could have made the columns too short, it makes no sense. I love you so much for making these. Pretty please make some more of the other EAxis columns in this size and I'll worship you for ever...
Lab Assistant
#5 Old 23rd Dec 2007 at 2:32 PM
Is it only for the columns shown in the pictures or all of them? (all maxis ones)
Theorist
Original Poster
#6 Old 23rd Dec 2007 at 3:15 PM Last edited by Sophie-David : 23rd Dec 2007 at 3:47 PM.
Default Yes, More to Come...
Quote:
Originally Posted by simathome
Is it only for the columns shown in the pictures or all of them? (all maxis ones)
At the moment I have only adjusted the simple column shown, and this was driven by the immediate need for an appropriate sized column for the current Creator Challenge. I would like to come back and do at least the rest of the base game columns when I have a moment.

It so happened that the simple column that I was using in the challenge was delightfully easy to adjust because it does not have a special top to it, I just has to fiddle a bit to get the height just right. When I do the other columns I will likely need to play around to keep the proportions looking correct.

Thank you for the encouragment folks! I did try the 5% taller one as a default replacement like yours HP, but unfortuately making it the default did not automatically change all the columns that were already in-game. So I thought it better to make it a standalone so that builders would have a choice. Personally I think it would be unlikely that I would use the built-in column again, but I suppose it is possible.
Scholar
#7 Old 23rd Dec 2007 at 3:59 PM
Thank you for correcting one of the weirdest mistakes I've seen in The Sims 2. I'm surprised EA haven't spotted this yet...
Lab Assistant
#8 Old 23rd Dec 2007 at 4:11 PM
Its like you read my mind! I have been fighting with my columns so long I finally stopped using them because I hated putting foundations under them. Thanks for the great work and thanks even more for sharing them.
Field Researcher
#9 Old 23rd Dec 2007 at 4:18 PM
Thank you so so much for these, the one for houses with foundation will be extremely useful. I'm not a mesher and I don't request things either, but you granted my secret wish! :D

UPDATE Nov '11: Beacon Falls & Maple Valley are custom TS2 neighborhoods with storylines, add-on families & lots. The Beacon Falls Blog has separate business & vacation subhoods & Maple Valley's Blog has a separate university subhood. All have been fixed using Mootilda's HoodChecker.
Top Secret Researcher
#10 Old 23rd Dec 2007 at 4:31 PM
Thank you! What a great and useful idea. :D
Mad Poster
#11 Old 23rd Dec 2007 at 5:35 PM
Thanks for the brilliant idea and for correcting yet another Maxi's mistake!!
Field Researcher
#12 Old 23rd Dec 2007 at 10:06 PM
Thanks for giving us more chances to build real, SD!!!
Forum Resident
#13 Old 24th Dec 2007 at 1:25 AM
Thanks for the great idea, for sure there are several other objects that need a correction for special purposes. Like so often we know what we miss when we see it done or available.
hexameter
Alchemist
#14 Old 24th Dec 2007 at 1:31 AM
Thanks so much, I've been groaning about those short columns for ever. I look forward to the next batch, too.
Top Secret Researcher
#15 Old 24th Dec 2007 at 7:12 AM
It so bugged me that they are so short and I am glad that you decided to do this for us.
Thank You
Test Subject
#16 Old 24th Dec 2007 at 11:59 AM
good job!!
I've been looking for this for a long time!!!
Theorist
THANKS POST
Original Poster
#17 Old 24th Dec 2007 at 6:35 PM
Your are welcome! "Build real", I like the way you put that nanisim!
Field Researcher
#18 Old 24th Dec 2007 at 7:31 PM
Thank you so much, these will come in handy. I never understood why they made it so short.
Lab Assistant
#19 Old 25th Dec 2007 at 10:14 AM
Finally there was someone smart enough to create what I've been wanting from the date I installed The Sims 2!
Thanks a crunch! :D
Scholar
#20 Old 25th Dec 2007 at 3:50 PM
Yep the columns ! A more precise and adjusted work for arf... some house.
Un grand merci / a big thank you Sophie-David !

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Theorist
Original Poster
#21 Old 25th Dec 2007 at 5:10 PM Last edited by Sophie-David : 7th Jan 2008 at 7:34 PM. Reason: Added a link to the project house, now it is online
Default Merry Christmas All!
Hee - hee, yes some house I guess!

(That would be the Creator Challenge project house that Mihura and I have been collaborating on)

I thought you were offline too until after the holidays! I couldn't resist coming here either to browse and socialize. We just opened our Christmas presents here today. High winds outside, but warm and wet.

The house is completely done, so I have been putting a lot of time into my rural TV antenna for it - actually designing it to spec as an electronics project!

Have a great Christmas Mihura! And Joyeux Noel! to all who may be reading here today!
Slacker of Immense Slackness
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#22 Old 27th Dec 2007 at 10:48 AM
Thank you SO much - little things like that in the game REALLY have the power to drive me nuts (I like realism meself)

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Field Researcher
#23 Old 5th Jan 2008 at 3:26 AM
Awesome! Thank you so much! These will be so nice, and will save me from always trying to figure out how to hide the gaps.

See my blog for my very latest lots, including some that are not available on MTS2: Twoflower's Sims 2 Lots. Also, see what's happening in Apple Grove, my Prosperity Challenge neighborhood.
Lab Assistant
#24 Old 5th Jan 2008 at 7:31 AM
Excellent! I've often wondered why in the world Maxis made the columns like that. At first I thought they had to be like that for some reason, but seeing yours obviously disproves that! Thanks for sharing!
Theorist
Original Poster
#25 Old 7th Jan 2008 at 7:32 PM
Thank you for the encouragment, folks! Aixlachaise has already put these columns to very good use in her lovely and authentic catalogue house here. I had better follow up with the rest of the base game collection!
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