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Fence-Arches and Fences (Maxis-matching "Pinegultcher" set)

by Numenor Posted 24th Nov 2008 at 2:28 PM - Updated 14th Mar 2009 at 8:48 PM by Numenor : Restored missing attachment
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This is a new mesh, and means that it's a brand new self contained object that usually does not require a specific Expansion pack (although this is possible depending on the type). It may have Recolours hosted on MTS - check below the description for more information.
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FENCE-ARCHES and FENCES
(Maxis-matching "Pinegultcher" set)



WHAT ARE THE FENCE-ARCHES?
Have you ever noticed (or used!) the "Linking Logs Trellis Arch"? It's the very last icon in the Fences catalog. No? Me neither
But it's a pity, because that is the only example of Fence-Arch in the game. Its special feature is that it can be laid down like a fence, but can be built even over an existing fence, so to create unusual entrances and gateways. However, this fence-arch is rarely used because it comes in only one colour and only one shape: it only matches the brown "Pinegultcher" Maxis fence.


HOW TO INSTALL: IMPORTANT!
In order to use the custom Fence-Arches, you need to install the Scriptorium (v. 2.2 or later), with the option "Custom Walls-Fences-Arches" activated.
When done, install the files as follows:
  • unpack the archive "FenceArches_DownloadsFolder.rar" to the Downloads folder;
  • unpack the archive "Fences_DownloadsFolder.rar" to the Downloads folder, too;
  • double-click on the shortcut "Scriptorium_Walls-Fences-Arches" (located in the Downlaods) and a Scriptorium window will open up: you will see the note "-- Put here all the custom scripts for Walls, Fences and FenceArches";
  • unpack the archive "FenceArches_ScriptoriumFolder.rar" to the open Scriptorium window.


WHY THIS SET?
I confess: I'm posting this set because no one so far has posted custom Fence-Arches And I also wanted to expand the "Pinegultcher" set, so to make it actually usable. Maxis, as usual, is no good at creating matching sets: the game contains the gates in 5 colours, but the fences come only in 2 colours, and there is only 1 fence-arch... TSK! TSK!
After installing these files, you will have a complete Pinegultcher set:

(NOTE: this is an edited image; in the game catalog,
you will see one icon for each fence and fencearch colour).

Apart from the well-known "brown" colour, you will have 4 more colours to choose from:

Please note that the set includes two different versions of the Fence-Arches:
  • Standard Fence-Arch with posts at each tile (Maxis mesh);
  • Suspended Fence-Arch with posts only at the sides: this is useful to create covered areas, such as dining terraces, or covered driveways (see attached screenshots, below).


HOW TO USE THE FENCE-ARCHES
Very simple! They are laid down just like any fence; the mesh is updated dynamically, while you drag the fence tool:

If you create a covered area, it will be normally usable (you can place objects under the arches, and the sims will be able to use them). Only the driveways require the moveObjects cheat to be placed, but then they work fine.
NOTE - The sims will walk through the posts of the suspended arch: this is not a bug, I had to do it in order to make the underneath area usable.


GAME COMPATIBILITY
All the attached fences and fence-arches are compatible with ANY game, including the base-game only.


CREDITS AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
Credits to Maxis, for the original mesh of the fence-arch (the suspended version is a variation over the Maxis mesh); half of the textures used are by Maxis too (they were 'lost' in the game files).
Thanks also to Niol for discussing with me this interesting subject, in this thread.

Polygon Counts:
The fence-arches are modular: the various pieces are dynamically joined while dragging the fence tool; while it's impossible to declare a poly-count per tile (because it depends on how wide is the fence-arch), you can have an idea reading these figures:
  1. A 3-tile-wide "standard" fence-arche (with posts at each tile) uses:
    4040 Faces / 4886 Vertices (average: 1346/1629 per tile).
    The poly count is identical to the original Maxis fence-arch.
  2. A 3-tile-wide "suspended" fence-arch (with posts at the sides only) uses:
    3538 F / 6128 V (average: 1180/2042 per tile).

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 2
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
Fences_DownloadsFolder.rar

Size: 145.7 KB · Downloads: 15,092 · 24th Nov 2008
145.7 KB 15,092 24th Nov 2008
FenceArches_ScriptoriumFolder.rar

Size: 2.2 KB · Downloads: 14,644 · 24th Nov 2008
2.2 KB 14,644 24th Nov 2008
FenceArches_DownloadsFolder.rar

Size: 526.9 KB · Downloads: 16,241 · 24th Nov 2008
526.9 KB 16,241 24th Nov 2008
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.

2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.

3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
  • Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows Vista/7/8/10: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows XP: Documents and Settings\(Current User Account)\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Mac: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads
  • Mac x64: /Library/Containers/com.aspyr.sims2.appstore/Data/Library/Application Support/Aspyr/The Sims 2/Downloads
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Top Secret Researcher
#2 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 3:24 PM
fabulous! these will be useful! thanks, numenor!
Scholar
#3 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 3:30 PM
This is epic Numenor! i never wondered why the game gave us 5 gate choices but only 2 fence choices. same with the little rustic picket wooden fence and the metal -tornado- fence....the gates both have an extra color not available for fencing :s

ANYWAY... this is great..and i might actualy use that arch now! thanks.
Field Researcher
#4 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 3:33 PM
These are perfect...(as always).
Thank you once again!

ClicknPsycho
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#5 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 3:51 PM
Thank you, Numenor

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#6 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 4:06 PM
I'm glad you found out the secret to these arches! I was trying to figure out a way yesterday to create ivy for fences, but couldn't get around the fact that you couldn't build fences over fences. This looks to be the perfect solution! Thank you for the research AND the now highly usable arches themselves!
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#7 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 4:11 PM
What a great idea! Thankyou Numenor.

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#8 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 5:11 PM
Brillaint! Thanks Numenor


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#9 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 6:27 PM
woe, these are awesome, and so beautiful, i love them!
thank you very much
Mad Poster
#10 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 6:29 PM
Fabulous Modfather. I use the fence, but sparingly cause I always have a hard time deleteing them once I saved a lot. Hopefully this will end the problem. Anyway, thanks alot for your hard work.

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Field Researcher
#11 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 7:11 PM Last edited by ClicknPsycho : 24th Nov 2008 at 11:34 PM. Reason: Cleaning up info
Sorry for being a bother, one of these txt files, not sure wich one yet is causing a problem with the diagonal pools tool.

Edit: Thought I had the solution but my fix was not the preferred one & I posted in the wrong thread.
Thank you Numenor!

The 'Great one' will fix the problem in the propper "scriptorium" thread
See Below

ClicknPsycho
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#12 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 8:43 PM
Again you amaze us! Thank you!

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Mad Poster
#13 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 9:31 PM
Thank you!!! Now I can have a proper trellis!
Instructor
#14 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 9:54 PM
Another amazing (and much needed,) creation Numenor! Your creative mind is an absolute treasure to this community. Thank you for sharing your immense talent with the rest of us!
Lab Assistant
#15 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 11:06 PM
What a perfect idea! I never used the arch fence but now i have more choices.
Thanks for sharing!

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The ModFather
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#16 Old 24th Nov 2008 at 11:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClicknPsycho
Sorry for being a bother, one of these txt files, not sure wich one yet is causing a problem with the diagonal pools tool.

Update: "I removed the 'mayplacediagonaly false' line completely from ALL the txt files.
And it all works fine now.
"The line is not needed, in game it says 'cannot place diagonaly' still"


Bother? Not at all, on the contrary! Your accurate bug reports are very useful.
However, your first guess was the right one: this is a problem of the Scriptorium (you did right to post there); it's not due to the FenceArches themselves.

The "mayPlaceDiagonally" is a per-wall setting: each wall/fence/arch uses its own setting, and they shouldn't interfere with the others.
I will explain better why it's the Scriptorium to blame in the Scriptorium thread. Here, I just want to explain that your solution, while it's effective (nice finding! ), it's not the best one, because creators one day might want to create a fence-arch that *can* be placed diagonally, and the "mayPlaceDiagonally" parameter would be required in that case.

Many thanks for taking your time to run these tests, reporting the bug clearly and offering a solution for it Now, hold on while I prepare a fix for the Scriptorium...

I've finally started my Journal. Information only, no questions.

My latest activity: CEP 9.2.0! - AnyGameStarter 2.1.1 (UPD) - Scriptorium v.2.2f - Photo & Plaques hide with walls - Magazine Rack (UPD) - Animated Windows Hack (UPD) - Custom Instrument Hack (UPD) - Drivable Cars Without Nightlife (UPD) - Courtesy Lights (FIX) - Custom Fence-Arches - Painting-TV - Smarter Lights (UPD)


I *DON'T* accept requests, sorry.
Lab Assistant
#17 Old 25th Nov 2008 at 12:08 AM
Woohoo!! thanks!
Field Researcher
#18 Old 25th Nov 2008 at 12:30 AM
I've been dreaming about having these arches in different colours for weeks! Thankyou so much!
Field Researcher
#19 Old 25th Nov 2008 at 12:50 AM
WOW...What a great idea!!!...Thanks

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Alchemist
#20 Old 25th Nov 2008 at 2:16 AM Last edited by aelflaed : 25th Nov 2008 at 7:19 AM. Reason: first there were none...now there are two
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numenor
creators one day might want to create a fence-arch that *can* be placed diagonally, and the "mayPlaceDiagonally" parameter would be required in that case.
I, for one, would love to place such arches diagonally. Hope someone takes it on!

Thanks for this set, I do use the arches, but they have always been very limited.


EDIT - I can't find any of the arches in-game...should they be with the fences still? The fence colours are there, but no arches at all. I have the two folders in Downloads, and put the .txt files into Scriptorium. This is in mini-game, up to FT.

More Edit - I got the updated Scriptorium and installed it. Now I have TWO copies of all the arches. What did I get wrong? How do I fix that? Sorry to be a nuisance.
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#21 Old 25th Nov 2008 at 8:33 AM
They are not two "copies", but two alternative versions (standard and "suspended"); try them in game and you'll see the difference.

Attention mini-game players:keep in mind that the Scriptorium folder is located in the game installation folders (Program Files) and therefore it is shared between the full game and all the mini-games; but the Downloads folder is not. Therefore, if you install the arches in one mini-game only, you will see some empty icons in the full game and all the other mini-games. And the opposite: if you install the fence-arches in the full game, you will see the empty icons in the mini-games. This is because all the games read the TXT files, but only one has access the .package files.
If you want to have the fences in all the games, you must install the two "..._Downloads.rar" archives in all the various Downloads folders (full game and mini-games).

I've finally started my Journal. Information only, no questions.

My latest activity: CEP 9.2.0! - AnyGameStarter 2.1.1 (UPD) - Scriptorium v.2.2f - Photo & Plaques hide with walls - Magazine Rack (UPD) - Animated Windows Hack (UPD) - Custom Instrument Hack (UPD) - Drivable Cars Without Nightlife (UPD) - Courtesy Lights (FIX) - Custom Fence-Arches - Painting-TV - Smarter Lights (UPD)


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#22 Old 25th Nov 2008 at 8:59 AM
SCRIPTORIUM updated to v. 2.2c : BUGFIX




25 NOV 2008 - Scriptorium v. 2.2c: BUGFIX.
Improved the internal code so to solve the problem of the diagonal pool
becoming not usable after installing custom fence-arches.
Thanks again to ClicknPsycho for reporting.

ALL FENCE-ARCH USERS SHOULD INSTALL THE NEW SCRIPTORIUM v. 2.2c
in order to solve the mentioned problem with the Diagonal Pools

I've finally started my Journal. Information only, no questions.

My latest activity: CEP 9.2.0! - AnyGameStarter 2.1.1 (UPD) - Scriptorium v.2.2f - Photo & Plaques hide with walls - Magazine Rack (UPD) - Animated Windows Hack (UPD) - Custom Instrument Hack (UPD) - Drivable Cars Without Nightlife (UPD) - Courtesy Lights (FIX) - Custom Fence-Arches - Painting-TV - Smarter Lights (UPD)


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Alchemist
#23 Old 25th Nov 2008 at 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numenor
They are not two "copies", but two alternative versions (standard and "suspended"); try them in game and you'll see the difference.


Okay, how silly of me. Thanks.

And yes, I've noticed that about the downloads versus scriptorium folders. Lots of non-existent stairs in my minigames, but I'm used to it.

By the way, do I have to have all the versions? Could I take out the non-suspended set, and still use the suspended ones?
Field Researcher
#24 Old 25th Nov 2008 at 3:40 PM
Numenor, you are some kind of awesome. :]


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The ModFather
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#25 Old 25th Nov 2008 at 3:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aelflaed
Okay, how silly of me. Thanks.

And yes, I've noticed that about the downloads versus scriptorium folders. Lots of non-existent stairs in my minigames, but I'm used to it.

By the way, do I have to have all the versions? Could I take out the non-suspended set, and still use the suspended ones?


Of course! Only Apple (and sometimes Microsoft) demand to decide what's best for you Not me
You have to delete from both the Downloads and the Scriptorium folder the fence-arches 80, 81, 82 and 83 (i.e. the non-suspended ones).

I've finally started my Journal. Information only, no questions.

My latest activity: CEP 9.2.0! - AnyGameStarter 2.1.1 (UPD) - Scriptorium v.2.2f - Photo & Plaques hide with walls - Magazine Rack (UPD) - Animated Windows Hack (UPD) - Custom Instrument Hack (UPD) - Drivable Cars Without Nightlife (UPD) - Courtesy Lights (FIX) - Custom Fence-Arches - Painting-TV - Smarter Lights (UPD)


I *DON'T* accept requests, sorry.
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