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Science Skill Gain for Chemistry Table and Telescope

by sammonsim Posted 28th Mar 2013 at 1:34 AM - Updated 18th Oct 2013 at 12:18 AM by sammonsim
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Compatible with 1.55/1.57/1.63, no changes.

This mod adds science skill gain to two objects, the Chemistry Lab table and Telescope. Nerd influence flavors are also available.

It's only necessary to download one zip file. Each zip contains two packages, one for each object, in case you want to install only one.



There are 4 available flavors: (choose only one!)
#1 Science skill normal: Adds slightly more than the amount of Science skill obtained from "Research Science" interaction on the Science Research Station, to the Discover Potion and Make Potion interactions, and the Look Through, Stargaze, and Search Galaxy interactions.
#2 Science skill + Nerd influence: Same as above, with Nerd influence added at a normal rate.
#3 Slower skilling: Both science and logic gain are slightly lower than normal, to compensate for adding a whole 'nother skill to the objects. In case flavor #1 feels slightly cheaty.
#4 Slower skilling + Nerd influence: Same as #3, plus Nerd influence which gains at a third of its normal rate.



Important note:
aka "Why is it not working?"
In my testing, the sims only gained science skill from these objects if they already had at least one level of science. I don't know if it is possible to get around this limitation with this type of mod, but I believe not... it would probably require a script mod, which this is not. I assume your sims will have this problem too, so I suggest using one of these workarounds:
1) Have them study from the Science Research station to gain a level of science skill first.
2) Send your sim to take a science class at a science rabbithole near you. (I completely forgot this option, thanks Menaceman for pointing it out! )
3) Or, using MasterController (with the Cheats module installed), under Advanced -> Skill Level set the Science skill to 1. (I usually do this after they've gained a level of Logic with one of these objects.)

How does this mod handle children?
Children can't use the Science Research station that came with University. So, unless you add the Science skill to them manually with MasterController, they will not gain any science from the chemistry table at all. If you do add a level of skill to them, they will afterwards gain the skill normally, but it will act like a hidden skill until they age up to teen. Then the levels they've gained will magically appear in their skill panel.

Compatibility / requirements
Requires the University Life expansion!
Generations is only required for the chemistry lab table. You can install the telescope mod by itself, since it has its own package.
Made with patch 1.50.
Compatible with 1.55/1.57.

Now your sim can learn scientific facts with his telescope. Hey, it is important to know about fish, right? Especially when you're surrounded by them....

Potential conflicts
This mod overrides the following resources, and will conflict with any other mod that does the same. If you're not sure, check which resources the other mod has listed as overriding.

Chemistry table package:
MakePotion_ChemistryLab ITUN
DiscoverPotion_ChemistryLab ITUN

Telescope package:
LookThroughOrStargaze_Telescope ITUN
SearchGalaxy_Telescope ITUN

Note: This mod does not conflict with Melchi's Chemistry Lab Outfit Fix, in fact it appears they work correctly together.

Inner workings
This is a simple ITUN (interaction tuning) type of mod. I don't own a mod like this, and it is easy to make. This means you can feel free to open it with S3PE and change it any way you like.


Additional Credits: S3PE
Nona's post about ITUNs, which is where I even heard about them in the first place.

You must have the expansion, game version or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3 Generations
Built with Game Version: 1.50
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
Slower Science Skill+ Nerd Influence.rar | Same as above, but with nerd influence which is gained at 1/3 of the usual rate.

Size: 3.5 KB · Downloads: 1,379 · 28th Mar 2013
3.5 KB 1,379 28th Mar 2013
Slower Science Skill Gain.rar | Both objects gain science and logic slightly slower.

Size: 3.4 KB · Downloads: 651 · 28th Mar 2013
3.4 KB 651 28th Mar 2013
Science Skill+ Nerd Influence.rar | Same as above mod, but with nerd influence added as well.

Size: 3.5 KB · Downloads: 5,791 · 28th Mar 2013
3.5 KB 5,791 28th Mar 2013
Science Skill Gain.rar | Science skill for the telescope and chemistry lab. They are in two separate packages, so you can install only the telescope mod if you don't have Generations.

Size: 3.4 KB · Downloads: 2,611 · 28th Mar 2013
3.4 KB 2,611 28th Mar 2013
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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Top Secret Researcher
THANKS POST
#2 Old 28th Mar 2013 at 2:09 AM
Yes! This is much needed. Thank you!
Instructor
THANKS POST
#3 Old 28th Mar 2013 at 6:45 AM
I was going to make this, but you beat me to it. Thank you!
Field Researcher
#4 Old 28th Mar 2013 at 9:17 AM
You do realize the Science skill is useless right? Just saying.
Field Researcher
#5 Old 28th Mar 2013 at 6:44 PM
Do they still gain logic from using the objects?
Lab Assistant
Original Poster
#6 Old 28th Mar 2013 at 7:17 PM
Yes, they'll still gain logic skill.

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Scholar
THANKS POST
#7 Old 28th Mar 2013 at 7:20 PM
Great idea! It's a pity that EA didn't already do this, but thanks to you for doing so.
Test Subject
#8 Old 29th Mar 2013 at 2:16 PM
Brilliant!
Test Subject
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#9 Old 30th Mar 2013 at 3:57 AM
Thanks! It was weird that you can't gain science skill with the chemistry table.
Lab Assistant
#10 Old 31st Mar 2013 at 5:30 PM
Another great mod that I didn't even know until I saw it, but in retrospect seems rather obvious. Thanks!

@JackieSmith: It depends on how you play your Sims. If they want a career in Science or Medicine, if they want to clone a Sim or a particularly good/rare fruit/insect/fish/whatever, if you want to be able to bump the quality of a fruit/insect/fish/whatever, or if you want to change your Sim into a Plant Sim, than the Science skill is not useless. Then, again, the Charisma skill is useless to a Loner Sim, and the Painting skill is useless to a Sim that Can't Stand Art. It's all how you play.

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Field Researcher
THANKS POST
#11 Old 24th Apr 2013 at 9:12 AM
Brillant and useful I can't believe that this mod isn't already here in the game !
Million thanks !
Mad Poster
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#12 Old 24th Apr 2013 at 2:09 PM
I wasn't going to download this once I read that I have to make sure my Sims already have 1 point in the skill for it to take affect as I would forget too often, but then when I was playing yesterday I realised that Sims can take a Science class at the Science Facility in town just like any other skill class!
Now it's a must have.
Top Secret Researcher
#13 Old 28th May 2013 at 4:08 AM
Hello. Really appreciate this mod. Is it possible to make another version which makes all gym equipments gives Jock influences as well?
Instructor
THANKS POST
#14 Old 16th Jun 2013 at 4:52 AM
What about the other telescope that i think came with high end loft stuff? As in your pictures you only use the base one which i never use.
Lab Assistant
#15 Old 22nd Jun 2013 at 9:22 PM
I love this mod but will it work with the new patch 1.55? Or does it need updating?

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Lab Assistant
Original Poster
#16 Old 1st Jul 2013 at 10:43 AM
Teza: Yes, it is fine to use with 1.55. The files it modifies were not changed in the patch.

Fearless Butterfly: I don't have any of the stuff packs myself, but it shouldn't matter. This mod changes the "Look through" and "Search galaxy" interactions themselves, not the telescope object. So, it should work fine with any functional telescope.

Emino: I guess that yes, probably that would be similar to how this mod works. I can look into it when I have some time... Haven't been playing/modding TS3 much in the past month or so because it's been lagging a lot for me, but I'm trying to get it to behave again. (Now that there's a new EP out )
Anyway, I'll take a look at that and see what I can do. It sounds useful.

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Lab Assistant
THANKS POST
#17 Old 7th Jul 2013 at 12:08 AM
*tacklehugs* :D

You made me happy!
Field Researcher
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#18 Old 20th Jul 2013 at 1:37 AM
God. EA should do this! duh....but u did so ur a LEGEND!!! thanks so much.....love it
Field Researcher
#19 Old 11th Sep 2013 at 10:20 PM
Compatible with 1.57? (It should be, but I like to make sure!)
Lab Assistant
Original Poster
#20 Old 24th Sep 2013 at 8:35 PM
I don't think they even changed any tuning with 1.57, just added some new tuning files for Movie stuff pack items. So yes, it's compatible. (:

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Lab Assistant
Original Poster
#21 Old 27th Sep 2013 at 11:05 PM
If anyone's still looking, the mod Emino had requested is up now - gain jock influence from working out on gym equipment or with the TV/stereo. It is here

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Test Subject
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#22 Old 8th Jan 2014 at 7:21 PM
Thanks! What a great way to integrate the eps :D
Test Subject
#23 Old 26th Jan 2014 at 11:12 PM
Great mod. Tested on Patch 1.66 and 1.67
Field Researcher
#24 Old 5th Nov 2014 at 11:31 PM Last edited by Okalanit : 6th Nov 2014 at 9:32 AM. Reason: Adding Grammar
I didn't even know there was a Science skill! I will be testing this and if there are any problems and/or any bugs/glitches, I will let you know. If not, you won't see me again.

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I've ran the dashboard tool. Unfortunately this clashes with "gain fun with telescope" mod. Chavverick (SP?) was the creator I think, something like that. Anyways, thought I would add this. So far it does not conflict with any other mods according to the Dashboard tool.
I removed the "gain fun with telescope" because I think this one is better for me.
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I have installed "Telescope Optics Enhancement Kit" and ran the Dashboard Tool. It does not say anything about it conflicting with this mod. I also have posted this information on their page as well. So for those who are looking for telescope mods, these two work just fine together.
Test Subject
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#25 Old 7th Oct 2015 at 9:17 AM
YOU'RE AWESOME THANKS
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