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Notebook V2.1

by plasticbox Posted 10th Jan 2015 at 3:50 AM - Updated 15th Feb 2016 at 1:11 PM by plasticbox
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This is a new mesh, and means that it's a brand new self contained object that usually does not require a specific Expansion pack (although this is possible depending on the type). It may have Recolours hosted on MTS - check below the description for more information.
A notebook for sims to practice writing, write letters and books, and some other things.


Update 2016-01-06: Updated with Dutch strings added.






Features:
  • Practice Writing
  • Write Jokes
  • Write Letter (v2)
  • Write Letter to Penpal (v1.2)
  • Write Love Letter
  • Write Excuse Note
  • Write About Feelings (Sad sims)
  • Write Genre Book (v2)
  • Write Skill Book (v2)
  • Write Dollhouse Story (v2, children only)
  • Read
  • Analyze (Bookworms)

Letter writing is a custom feature that gives a small relationship boost upon completion (for the regular relationship, not the romantic one like love letters). It is available for children and older. Dollhouse Story (same as on the computer) is available to children who have the "Inspired by Dollhouse" buff; this is mostly untested since my stupid sim kids got that buff exactly once and then never again .. let me know in case it misbehaves.


Skill gain and requirements for the other interactions are the same as on computers, except for the following changes:
  • Elders gain skill slightly faster and Teens slightly slower (i.e. the exact opposite of the computer tuning)
  • Skill gain from writing books is a little less overall than on a computer
  • Writing skill books requires level 5 Writing skill instead of the Professiorial trait (aka Chronicler), plus level 5 of the skill the book is about (like on the computer) – this is deliberate since I think explaining things, like in a manual, is something that one can learn and not a supernatural gift. If you want to change this for computers too, you can use this mod.
  • Skill and genre books have a different completion time (skill based curve rather than whatever the *&$%# it is on the computer) – I don't know how it compares exactly, but to me it seemed like a sensible amount of time
  • Writing books gives a small Fun boost to sims with the Bookworm, Chronicler, Epic Poet, Genius, Savant, CreativeVisionary, Muser and Creatively Gifted traits
  • The power requirement (that computers have) is removed


All animations are from the teen/child homework; all interactions should work from in-world objects, sim inventory, and bookcase inventory.

The notebook costs §60 and is available in Function > Skills > Creative and Room > Study > Skills. 19 colour options; like other custom objects this can only be recoloured from the catalogue. Custom strings are localised for Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese, Spanish, Russian, and US English; the rest of the world gets the US English version until someone provides a translation (contributions welcome).


Known issues:
  • As reported by olienka in the comments, interactions on this notebook will not fulfill whims like "Write jokes on a computer for N hours". This actually makes sense to me seeing as a notebook is not a computer =P. The "Finish a book" whims should be working OK though.
  • During the writing animation for teens and up, a dark shadow overlay appears near the fold (see the "writing" screenshot). This is because the Teen Homework book (that the animation is originally using) has a different mesh/rig so the thin book that I'm using as a basis doesn't really fit. Maybe I can find a way to get rid of that artifact, maybe not .. I didn't want it to be a big fat brick so I consider this the best compromise for now. This only happens indoors and is not an issue for children.




Please note:
  • You will need to re-buy the books when you update from v1.2 or older to v2 -- the old ones will go missing since it has a different ID now. Sorry about that (didn't think that through very well).
  • In order to write love letters and excuse notes, sims need a bit of writing skill (level 4/5 I believe), so don't be surprised when those options don't show up for everyone.
  • For writing letters to penpals, they need to have a penpal first. This is only available through a computer, not the notebook.
  • Writing letters to pen pals is on the top level of the pie menu, writing letters to sims is in the "Write…" menu (it'll be obvious anyway when the sim picker dialog comes up). For the latter I'm recycling the pie menu text of the former; let me know if this results in strangeness in your language (I only see the US English text).
  • For the craftable books, the progress circle does not update continuously -- sims will write for a little while, then it'll update about 1/8th of the circle in one go, etc. Its modeled from the violin "Write Song" interaction, hence why it's different in that respect -- apart from that it worked fine for me though, including stop/resume, exit to world, to main menu, and exit/reload the game.
  • Sims will use kneeling/standing animations when they don't find a free desk/table and chair -- in those cases they don't appear to be writing (see the guy on the "kneeling" screenshot -- he is writing a love letter), but just like with homework it works nevertheless. Let's say they are proofreading.


Compatibility:

2015-05-31: Tested in 1.7.65.1020, works for me.
2015-04-29: Updated for 1.5.149.
2015-03-27: Updated for 1.5.139.
Tested again in 1.4.83.1010, works for me.
Tested mostly in 1.3.18, should work in 1.3.32 as well (2015-01-13) -- I haven't seen any differences in the code and the interactions are all custom anyway.

Polygon Counts:
Same as Maxis skill books

Special Thanks:
scumbumbo for helping me to get the crafting to work, egureh for testing and the Chinese translations, pekesims for the Spanish translation, KuriXarya for the Russian translation, ElenaInTheSims for the Dutch translation.

s4pe, Notepad++, Paint.net/Photoshop/Aorta.
Style: Retro Not Applicable
Room: Study
Maxis Flags: Not Applicable

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

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Forum Resident
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#2 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 4:48 AM
cool all we need now is a no autonomous use notebook mod hint hint
Scholar
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#3 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 4:49 AM
What a great idea!
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#4 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 5:17 AM
I love you, PB<3! I was *just* thinking about this the other day - it was one of my favourite mods for TS3 and I'm so happy it's returned.
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#5 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 5:52 AM
ooooh! Thank you Thank you Thank you! *blows kisses* Sim style! ;-)
Mad Poster
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#6 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 6:12 AM
I don't know what to say except I never thought something like this is possible. I must try it out, I love my author sims. Thank you.
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#7 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 6:48 AM
Yass
This Was My Favorite Mod In The Sims 3 Thank You Omgomgogmo
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#8 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 6:54 AM
I LOVED this in The Sims 3, glad to see it's coming to The Sims 4!
Field Researcher
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#9 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 9:54 AM
Thank you soo much. It was annoying when most jobs require a computer and I wanted to live in a world without computers and other tech
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#10 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 10:34 AM
Thank you
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#11 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 11:41 AM
Awesome upload! Glad that my sims can do at least some writing in the old fashioned way
Field Researcher
#12 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 1:02 PM
WOW! Thank you a thousand times!! I always find inner peace when watching my sims actually writing. (not typing)
Two little not-that-important questions:
Is it possible to make a tooltip for the notebook? As object in sim's inventory has a hovering tooltip.
Is it possible to make the notebook go around with sims when they decide to change their seats in talking? Something strange happened.
And here is the STBL file for Chinese(zh-TW) in case you need it. This mod is already very cool, thanks again! :D
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#13 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 1:05 PM
Thank you!
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#14 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 1:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carlydunham
a no autonomous use notebook mod


If there are issues with sims autonomously using this notebook, report them please.

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#15 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 1:08 PM
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Originally Posted by egureh
Is it possible to make a tooltip for the notebook? As object in sim's inventory has a hovering tooltip.

Not sure how well that would work in combination with the pie menu. // Edit, do you have a screenshot of the sort of tooltip you mean? Right now I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about; the "pop up" (as shown in my catalogue screenshot) or something else?

Quote:
Originally Posted by egureh
Is it possible to make the notebook go around with sims when they decide to change their seats in talking? Something strange happened.

Ah, sorry -- I've only had that happen with writing books so far, that's why I thought it wasn't an issue for now. What was your sim doing when he changed seats? (It should be possible to disallow changing posture or interact with others while writing, then this shoudln't happen .. or maybe I'm missing the start/end animations somewhere)

Quote:
Originally Posted by egureh
And here is the STBL file for Chinese(zh-TW) in case you need it. This mod is already very cool, thanks again! :D


Thank you!

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#16 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 1:51 PM
:) Thanks!
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#17 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 2:22 PM
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Originally Posted by plasticbox
Not sure how well that would work in combination with the pie menu. // Edit, do you have a screenshot of the sort of tooltip you mean? Right now I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about; the "pop up" (as shown in my catalogue screenshot) or something else?
Ah, sorry -- I've only had that happen with writing books so far, that's why I thought it wasn't an issue for now. What was your sim doing when he changed seats? (It should be possible to disallow changing posture or interact with others while writing, then this shoudln't happen .. or maybe I'm missing the start/end animations somewhere)
Thank you!

Wow, you replied so quickly. Thanks! :D
Sorry if I used a wrong word, tooltip in sim's inventory I mean this.
Changing seat happens when there is a better view seat, as I showed in screenshot, A was writing and talking to B beside him, then he stood up and chose a seat face to B, leaving the notebook at previous seat. But the writing action wasn't interrupted, the animations continued with A and notebook separated.
Another tiny question: Why the icon of notebook looks so tiny in my game? XD
Oh and I nearly forgot to mention, about the STBL files, 0x01C425B6BF75094A is for Chinese(zh-CN), but the game doesn't support Simplified Chinese, so this one can be deleted.
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#18 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 2:26 PM Last edited by plasticbox : 11th Jan 2015 at 2:54 PM.
Quick update -- @egureh , maybe you want to give this a quick test run? (I can't test much right now)

- Sims will now not consider any "mixer interactions" (like chatting, eating) while writing -- I hope this prevents them from doing the musical chairs thing; they were already supposed to start/stop the animation properly (i.e. pick up and put down the book) and also ignore autonomuous socials so I don't see what more I can do to help them with that. And when writing a love letter, one wouldn't normally chat with others anyway =P ..

- Sims should prefer running the interactions near the object the user clicked on (can be useful in case you have more than one book in a household)

- Traditional Chinese translation by egureh is included (thank you! =)

The package in the zip is also named "notebook" (no version number) so you can just overwrite the old one.

File updated with proper thumbnail, thanks for the heads-up!


(File removed, see v1.2 in main upload post)

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#19 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 2:51 PM Last edited by plasticbox : 10th Jan 2015 at 3:20 PM.
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Originally Posted by egureh
Sorry if I used a wrong word, tooltip in sim's inventory I mean this.


I need to check how this looks i my game -- however, I assume it would conflict with the pie menu so I probably won't add that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by egureh
Another tiny question: Why the icon of notebook looks so tiny in my game? XD


That is because I seem to have accidentially removed the thumbnail camera resource too when I removed the crafting stuff >.< thank you!! (For me this makes no visible difference since in my game the thumbnail already existed .. hence why I didn't notice)

I'll put it back in both the main upload and the v1.1 version above, give me a minute .. you're an excellent tester, thanks for the STBL info as well! (From what I gather it still makes sense to keep the 01 stbl in, even when it's not used right now, in case that language will be added in the future .. even when it's English text that's better than just "DEBUG")

ETA: both files updated. You will probably need to delete your localthumbscache (in Documents/Electronic Arts/The Sims 4) to see the proper thumbnail.


--


Also, if other people want to provide translations, you're most welcome! But you would need to let me know which resource key it would need to have since I don't know which is which (providing an actual STBL like egureh did would be most awesome, but even just the info would be helpful). Or does anyone know where this is documented?

The strings I have at the moment are:
  • "Notebook" (object name)
  • "A notebook for sims to write in. modthesims.info/members/plasticbox" (object description)
  • "Write Love Letter" (replacement for "Write Love Email", this is shown in the pie menu)
  • "Write Love Letter to" (replacement for "Write Love Email To", this will show in the UI while the interaction is running)
  • "Write About Feelings" (replacement for "Blog About Feelings")

For German (which I can translate myself) it'd also be helpful if a German user (who unlike me plays the game in German) could let me know the exact wording of those interactions on a computer, since I'd like that to be consistent.

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#20 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 3:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by plasticbox
Quick update -- @egureh , maybe you want to give this a quick test run? (I can't test much right now)
- Sims will now not consider any "mixer interactions" (like chatting, eating) while writing -- I hope this prevents them from doing the musical chairs thing; they were already supposed to start/stop the animation properly (i.e. pick up and put down the book) and also ignore autonomuous socials so I don't see what more I can do to help them with that. And when writing a love letter, one wouldn't normally chat with others anyway =P ..
- Sims should prefer running the interactions near the object the user clicked on (can be useful in case you have more than one book in a household)
- Traditional Chinese translation by egureh is included (thank you! =)
The package in the zip is also named "notebook" (no version number) so you can just overwrite the old one.
File updated with proper thumbnail, thanks for the heads-up!

Quote:
Originally Posted by plasticbox
I need to check how this looks i my game -- however, I assume it would conflict with the pie menu so I probably won't add that.
That is because I seem to have accidentially removed the thumbnail camera resource too when I removed the crafting stuff >.< thank you!! (For me this makes no visible difference since in my game the thumbnail already existed .. hence why I didn't notice)
I'll put it back in both the main upload and the v1.1 version above, give me a minute .. you're an excellent tester, thanks for the STBL info as well! (From what I gather it still makes sense to keep the 01 stbl in, even when it's not used right now, in case that language will be added in the future .. even when it's English text that's better than just "DEBUG")
ETA: both files updated. You will probably need to delete your localthumbscache (in Documents/Electronic Arts/The Sims 4) to see the proper thumbnail.

Cool! Thanks for updating!
Aha, so it's called musical chairs, happy to learn new phrase every day.
But sadly it still has musical chairs issue with v1.1, sims still can chat when writing in notebook.
Just FYI, as far as I know, painting on easel is an incompatible interaction with chatting, maybe you could get some hints from its code?
The thumbnail works fine now, very pretty notebook.
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#21 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 3:57 PM Last edited by plasticbox : 11th Jan 2015 at 2:54 PM.
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Originally Posted by egureh
Just FYI, as far as I know, painting on easel is an incompatible interaction with chatting, maybe you could get some hints from its code?


Well that has a so-called affordance compatibility list that is specific to easels, I don't think it would work well to use that one (different posture and such) .. but I now added a compatibility check that should explicitely exclude everything but listening to stereos, maybe that would make the silly sims shut up and behave?

v1.2 attached below for testing. Let me know how it works, I don't have time right now to playtest myself since I need to leave soon and get properly dressed and showered before that but I'll hopefully have some time tomorrow to look into it some more.


ETA,
Quote:
Originally Posted by egureh
But sadly it still has musical chairs issue with v1.1, sims still can chat when writing in notebook.


just to clarify: are you talking about autonomous chatting or did you MAKE them chat? That's two different things as far as the game is concerned -- I'd just like to know whether the "please ignore when other sims are autonomously trying to talk to you" thing is working or not, since that's not so easy to test for.


(File removed, see v1.2 in main upload post)

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#22 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 4:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by plasticbox
Well that has a so-called affordance compatibility list that is specific to easels, I don't think it would work well to use that one (different posture and such) .. but I now added a compatibility check that should explicitely exclude everything but listening to stereos, maybe that would make the silly sims shut up and behave?
v1.2 attached below for testing. Let me know how it works, I don't have time right now to playtest myself since I need to leave soon and get properly dressed and showered before that but I'll hopefully have some time tomorrow to look into it some more.
ETA, just to clarify: are you talking about autonomous chatting or did you MAKE them chat? That's two different things as far as the game is concerned -- I'd just like to know whether the "please ignore when other sims are autonomously trying to talk to you" thing is working or not, since that's not so easy to test for.

Oh yes you're right, actually no autonomous chatting is surely enough to avoid autonomous musical chairs, my brain got stucked.
And yes, v1.1 works fine on stopping autonomous chatting, I just lost control of my hand. (hmm...always enjoy their chatting)
v1.2 is AWESOME! Thanks! Now even an oracle from God cannot make them talk to each other while writing in notebook.
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#23 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 9:41 PM
YAY
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#24 Old 10th Jan 2015 at 10:22 PM
I laid several notebooks out in my house for my 8 sim household. the maid came in and promptly pocketed one of them. The rest of them were picked up within less than an hour of sim play time, and That has become the entire household's favorite past time - everyone is "practicing writing", even my level 10 writer! hahaa
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#25 Old 11th Jan 2015 at 1:07 AM
why i cant find it at anywhere this mod support what version
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