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Lifetime Want Chooser

by Lamare Posted 7th Jul 2022 at 5:12 PM - Updated 7th Aug 2022 at 12:20 AM by Lamare
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Summary
This object lets you manually choose a lifetime want for your sim. No cycling one by one, just pick from a list! Has an option to ignore restrictions and choose an LTW that isn't normally available to a sim of certain aspiration. All known lifetime wants are updated and have slightly changed prerequisites to consider interests and hobbies, as a side bonus.

Updates
27 July 2022: Shapeshifting, Rerolling and Support for future wants
11 July 2022: Fixed a pre-FT compatibility issue and a minor thing in conditions for werewolves

What you get
  • Custom object that lets you choose a lifetime want and looks like a dream catcher decoration.
  • Changed preconditions for original and a few custom lifetime wants. Random LTW will be a bit more personalized, but should you not like it, new restrictions are easy to overcome with the Chooser, anyway.
  • Optional update for Life Stories careers lifetime wants (only if you use them, ignore it if you don't).

What you need
  • Apartment Life or Mansion & Garden, or Ultimate Collection, otherwise consider yourself a tester. Free Time or Bon Voyage probably good, too. I worked on compatibility with lower game versions, potentially anything after Night Life, but I have less confidence in those. Reports appreciated!
  • Look through Supported wants below and make sure you don't have any unsupported custom lifetime wants. If you have extra ltws that are not updated for the chooser, it won't work as expected (those wants may pop up instead of chosen ones).
  • Look through Conflicts below and make sure the Chooser loads after any conflicting mods, if there are any. Run a conflict detection program to double check.

How to use LTW Chooser
Buy the dream catcher for 5 simoleons in General/Miscellaneous (where most hacks hang out).
You have four options.
Choose LTW from Personally Available - from a list of wants that your sim may normally roll and meets requirements for (aspiration and so on). Chooser runs all checks before showing you the list.
Choose LTW from All (Ignore Restrictions) - from the whole list of lifetime wants you have in your game, original and custom, even those that don't match aspiration or already fulfilled. Use your own judgment when choosing, since not every want is suitable for every sim.
Reroll LTW - random lifetime want will be assigned to your sim.
Shapeshift - changes object model from dream catcher to various plants.

Supported wants
You don't have to have all supported wants in your game, the chooser won't offer you what you don't have.
  • 37 original from all packs
  • 50 of mine from Set 1
  • 4 of University careers - Artist, Show Biz, Paranormal, Natural Science
  • 2 of Life Stories - Game Development and Entertainment (my edits of them)
  • 2 Rio's - Firefighting and Social services
  • As of July, 27th it supports any unlisted LTWs if they are specifically updated for it.
If you're a modder who wants to make compatible lifetime wants, see the tutorial at the bottom of this page.

Changes to wants
These changes affect random rolls and the list of personally available wants.
Common rules:
  • Grilled cheese sims normally get only Eat X Grilled Cheese Sandwiches lifetime want, unless they also have another aspiration. Note that sims do not automatically reroll Grilled Cheese ltw after completion, this is by maxis design.
  • Reach career top type of wants are available to elders if they already work in those specific careers.
  • All wants updated to work with the Chooser.
Specific conditions:


Conflict resolving
Will conflict with other mods that override the same resources and change LTWs' prerequisites.
  • AnyLTWforallaspirations and its edits. Remove it, if you want to use the Chooser.
  • Pescado's ltwvariety and its edits. Remove it, if you want to use the Chooser. Both our mods change prerequisites of maxis original lifetime wants from various packs.
  • Nopke's noPetsLTWs. Remove it, if you want to use the Chooser.
  • Cyjon's Wealth LTWs. Remove it, if you want to use the Chooser.
  • Cyjon's Free Time LTW Fixes. Remove it, if you want to use the Chooser.
  • Alexx58's Expanded and Reduced LTW. The Classic version doesn't conflict, but the one that changes prerequisites does. Remove it or let the Chooser load after it and see how it works. If your version also has University career LTWs and you decide to remove it, get the separated Uni LTWs from my 50 LTW bundle.
  • My ltw_support package from custom lifetime wants set. Ignore it, I purposely included some needed functions in both packages, in case someone uses only one of these projects.
  • Rio's Firefighting and Social services career LTWs (from here). Make sure the Chooser loads after Rio's files, specifically the check trees - CT_Firefighter and CT_SocialWorker files - my file replaces them with chooser-ready versions. You could also disable Rio's CT_ files by changing ".package" file extension to ".OFF" or something like that (this is what I do instead of deleting, when I think I might need the files one day).
  • Pescado's Life Stories career lifetime wants (uni_ltws file). If you use them, get my edited versions from this thread. Then, if you use custom LTWs from me or someone else, edit the WantTuning package in your downloads to add these wants to the list (never edit the package in program files). If you don't know what I am talking about, leave the original Pescado's package in your Downloads and let my update load after it to override some things. If you don't use these wants from Pescado, don't download my update and ignore this paragraph.
Make the Chooser load after all conflicting mods, otherwise it will become useless.

Troubleshooting
  • If your sim gets a wrong lifetime want instead of what you chose. 1. You have an LTW that is not supported by this mod. Let me know, and I'll add it. 2. There's a conflict with a custom LTW or a mod that changes maxis wants' conditions. Make sure the Chooser loads last, and it should work as intended.
  • If your sim gets no lifetime want (blank panel) after choosing a custom want. Most likely, you have a custom want, but it's not listed in the WantTuning package (UI Data), or that package has a mistake in it that prevents the game from reading it correctly. Go look. If not that, you probably have a bad copy of this UI Data resource sneakily hiding somewhere and conflicting with your good UI Data resource.

Technical details
  • The model is a clone of in-game dream catcher decoration, stripped of specific EP requirements. Maxis made textures and mesh. 440 faces, 435 vertices. Additional models available through shapeshifting interaction directly reference in-game objects.
  • Nice list you see when choosing pulls icons and descriptions from memories for convenience, but doesn't do anything with the memories.
  • Overrides check trees of all supported lifetime wants (see list above). BHAVs: CT - Test - Lifetime Want - ... in group 0x7F739728. This is to make those wants work with the chooser.

Recommended mods
  • veetie_InterestAgeMod - makes sim's interests more varied when randomized, despite their age. For example, it gives adults a chance to have high interest in animals or toys.
  • ltw_icons_fixed - resized and edited icons for lifetime wants and some memories from Pets, Seasons and Free Time, to reduce visual glitches.
  • Medieval Default Career LTWs - complementary replacements for careers at Plumb Bob Keep - icons and descriptions of lifetime wants and corresponding memories.

Credits
Rio for Firefighting and Social services lifetime wants.
Pescado for Life Stories career LTWs. (I didn't know how to contact him, MATY wouldn't let me register, so if he sees this and has objections, well, I'm sure we'll figure something out. In no way this was an attempt to appropriate any part of his work.)
All the wonderful people behind SimPE, unluac, PhotoScape, Sublime and other helpful tools, tutorials and wikis.
Especially Adidas and Dizzy for the Lua notes.

Tutorial on making custom LTWs compatible with the Chooser
This is for modders who make their own LTWs and want them to be picked up by the Chooser.
Upd 4th August 2022


Type:
      Global Mods: Mods that change the way the game works without requiring any user intervention.

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

This is a multi-part download:


You only have to download LTW_Chooser - the chooser itself
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
LTW_Chooser.zip | the chooser itself

Size: 87.2 KB · Downloads: 4,150 · 27th Jul 2022
87.2 KB 4,150 27th Jul 2022
update_to_LS_ltws.zip | only for those who use Life Stories lifetime wants

Size: 9.6 KB · Downloads: 941 · 7th Jul 2022
9.6 KB 941 7th Jul 2022
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.

2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.

3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
  • Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows Vista/7/8/10: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows XP: Documents and Settings\(Current User Account)\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Mac: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads
  • Mac x64: /Library/Containers/com.aspyr.sims2.appstore/Data/Library/Application Support/Aspyr/The Sims 2/Downloads
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Instructor
THANKS POST
#76 Old 17th Jul 2022 at 10:06 PM
at last, a very useful hack ! thanks !
Mad Poster
THANKS POST
#77 Old 18th Jul 2022 at 6:30 AM
Confused by ones related to Maxis "have 40 lovers"; yours say things "Have lots of...", or "Have X puppies". What does that actually mean?
just a girl
Original Poster
#78 Old 18th Jul 2022 at 8:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by grammapat
Confused by ones related to Maxis "have 40 lovers"; yours say things "Have lots of...", or "Have X puppies". What does that actually mean?

Players may have these amounts customized, so instead of writing the exact numbers I wrote “lots of” or something similar. The wants are still recognizable, though, at least I hope so.
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#79 Old 19th Jul 2022 at 7:15 PM
I love being away from the TS2 community and coming back to find amazing mods such as this. Thank you SO much, this makes me even more excited to start playing again!
Test Subject
#80 Old 20th Jul 2022 at 9:09 PM
Lamare, do you know when your mod assigns the correct lifetime want of a Sim? I generated a Sim with characterGenerator by simNopke, and her lifetime want doesn't fit her.
You said in your description that to have the Law Enforcement career want, you need to be Popularity or Family with 4+ crime interest, but she has only 2 points in crime :/
Lab Assistant
THANKS POST
#81 Old 21st Jul 2022 at 6:16 AM
This will be such a life-saver!! Cycling through all the wants is so tedious.

I'm having a bit of confusion. I use Pescado's uni_ltws_sns to enable the Uni LTWs, however I'm not seeing your edit on the thread. I'm sure I'm just missing it. Could you tell me which reply # it is? Thank you!!
just a girl
Original Poster
#82 Old 21st Jul 2022 at 9:41 AM
@Nostural, my mod assigns it when you click and choose, otherwise it is assigned by the game and may be rerolled by other mods. I can't say exactly when it happens when you create a sim like that (maybe when it sets wants and memory history), and I don't know how the character generator works. What you have could have happened if the sim's interests were changed after the fact. Does it work right when you reroll the LTW?

@liljadefern, in this thread, you can find my edits of Life Stories lifetime wants that are also a part of uni_ltws_sns. Edits to Uni LTWs are not required.
Lab Assistant
THANKS POST
#83 Old 21st Jul 2022 at 4:03 PM
Ok thank you! I see it now in the Downloads section.

I just realized that I have this version of LS Game Development, although none of my sims are in this career yet. Will it work ok?

https://modthesims.info/d/233660/th...ent-career.html
just a girl
Original Poster
#84 Old 21st Jul 2022 at 4:22 PM
@liljadefern, no, you have to get the careers from MATY.
Test Subject
#85 Old 21st Jul 2022 at 7:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamare
@Nostural, my mod assigns it when you click and choose, otherwise it is assigned by the game and may be rerolled by other mods. I can't say exactly when it happens when you create a sim like that (maybe when it sets wants and memory history), and I don't know how the character generator works. What you have could have happened if the sim's interests were changed after the fact. Does it work right when you reroll the LTW?

@liljadefern, in this thread, you can find my edits of Life Stories lifetime wants that are also a part of uni_ltws_sns. Edits to Uni LTWs are not required.

Oh, maybe it's because I have the Interest Ages Mod? Maybe the mod changes the interests just after the LTW is assigned
Can you confirm tho that born Sims are expected to receive a fitted appropriate LTW?
just a girl
Original Poster
#86 Old 22nd Jul 2022 at 8:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostural
Oh, maybe it's because I have the Interest Ages Mod? Maybe the mod changes the interests just after the LTW is assigned
Can you confirm tho that born Sims are expected to receive a fitted appropriate LTW?

It's not how that interest mod works, so it's something else. Yes, sims are expected to receive an appropriate LTW, unless you have a mod conflict, and this is why I asked how it worked when you rerolled. If the chooser works for you otherwise, then your sim's case probably has something to do with how the sim was created. I can't say if it's a feature of that character generator or a common in-game procedure. I'll look into that just out if curiosity.
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#87 Old 22nd Jul 2022 at 1:39 PM
This is amazing. And the fact you've made the firefighting and social services careers work for LTWs is great too! I wonder if there's any chance you could do something similar with FennShysa's Agriculture mod. It's a staple for me - I consider it just about the best custom career I've ever used. It'd be great if my sims could get some recognition for dedicating their lives to it!
just a girl
Original Poster
#88 Old 22nd Jul 2022 at 2:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GneissGuy
And the fact you've made the firefighting and social services careers work for LTWs is great too!

Rio made them, not me

I don't plan to add more career LTWs, there are other ideas.
Test Subject
#89 Old 23rd Jul 2022 at 9:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamare
and this is why I asked how it worked when you rerolled.

Oh sorry, I missed that part
Yes, the chooser seems to show the correct LTWs -- it didn't display the LTW that was incorrect, that's how I noticed that the Sim had an incorrect LTW
I'll do more tests when I have time
Thanks for helping btw
Lab Assistant
THANKS POST
#90 Old 24th Jul 2022 at 4:15 AM
Thank you!
Test Subject
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#91 Old 24th Jul 2022 at 4:58 PM
Love it! Super easy to pick the wants now

Can't wait for the costom ones, they look real nice
Alchemist
THANKS POST
#92 Old 26th Jul 2022 at 12:27 AM
So lovely! @Lamare You make some of my favorite mods!

I'm sorry, but I'm still confused after reading all this, though. The only related mod I have is somebody's LTW's for All aspirations that has 23 BHAVs and nothing else. (There seem to be a few of these mods, but this one is very simple. I think it just makes the uni ones available. I thought you might know which it is by that description, but maybe not. ) What I really want to know is IF I just want to use yours, do I need anything else to have all the Maxis wants available, and do I keep the simple mod or not?
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#93 Old 26th Jul 2022 at 3:16 PM
This is amazing, thank you so much! Literally a life savior, no more rerolling over and over LTWs to find the one I want.
just a girl
Original Poster
#94 Old 26th Jul 2022 at 4:27 PM
@Nostural, we seem to have a communication problem, probably because English is not my first language, but I'll try again. I was trying to ask if your sim receives a suitable LTW when you reroll it. It is not what the Chooser shows, it is what actually gets assigned to your sim and appears on his or her panel. If your sim gets unsuitable LTW only after being created with the generator mod, then it's probably because of how the mod creates sims and you just have to remember to change LTWs after creating sims in this manner. If you reroll LTWs and your sims get unsuitable wants again, then there is a problem, most likely a conflict.

Hey @Sunrader. If you can use HCDU of SiMidge, do that and find out if that mod conflicts with mine. Guessing by description is not very reliable, but if I were to guess, I'd say it sounds like it changes prerequisites for lifetime wants by removing aspiration requirements -- and it will definitely conflict with the chooser in this case. It doesn't say anything about Uni LTWs, so I wonder where you get that thought from. It's possible that the mod does more things that the name says, but if it only has BHAVs and nothing else, then it can't add Uni LTWs or any LTWs, because LTWs have other types of resources. Now to answer you questions. You do not need anything to use the chooser. If your simple mod does what I think it does, remove it or -- if it does something else -- make it load before my mod just to be safe.
Alchemist
#95 Old 26th Jul 2022 at 7:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamare
It doesn't say anything about Uni LTWs, so I wonder where you get that thought from.


I looked yesterday and could not find where I got it, but I vaguely recall it being a response to the uni LTWs going missing if nightlife was installed or something like that, but it was not the original one that Pescado made that did that. All I remember is that the Become Cult Leader and something else was missing and this put them back as well removing the aspiration requirement. I think I assumed it removed the university degree required, but I don't think I ever looked that closely to see. No matter. It sounds like I can just use yours alone. Thank you!
just a girl
Original Poster
#96 Old 26th Jul 2022 at 9:00 PM
@Sunrader, if you have lifetime wants for Uni careers, they almost certainly come in another file, unless you have an odd game version I don't know about (I don't know much about the early days of Sims 2 and what old versions might have included). Anyway, you're right that it doesn't matter in regards to this particular mod.
just a girl
Original Poster
#97 Old 27th Jul 2022 at 6:03 PM


In this update I have added three things:
- Shapeshifting - an interaction that changes the object model (dream catcher as base model and a few plant options).
- Rerolling - an interaction to randomly reroll sim's LTW (it's the same as bat box or sim blender has, but a few people asked to add it and it was quick, so why not).
- Support for future wants - a way for the chooser to work with any possible future lifetime wants without needing to update it for every new want. There's also a tutorial for modders at the bottom of the main download post.

You don't have to redownload, unless you're interested in these new options.

Let's hope this is the final version! :D
Test Subject
#98 Old 27th Jul 2022 at 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamare
@Nostural, we seem to have a communication problem, probably because English is not my first language, but I'll try again. I was trying to ask if your sim receives a suitable LTW when you reroll it. It is not what the Chooser shows, it is what actually gets assigned to your sim and appears on his or her panel. If your sim gets unsuitable LTW only after being created with the generator mod, then it's probably because of how the mod creates sims and you just have to remember to change LTWs after creating sims in this manner. If you reroll LTWs and your sims get unsuitable wants again, then there is a problem, most likely a conflict.

I just tested and Sims who have incorrect LTW want assigned get correct one by rerolling it.
So I conclude that's characterGenerator mod that does that.
just a girl
Original Poster
#99 Old 28th Jul 2022 at 10:28 AM
@Nostural
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostural
I just tested and Sims who have incorrect LTW want assigned get correct one by rerolling it.
So I conclude that's characterGenerator mod that does that.

I've tried creating some sims with this character generator and with in-game townie maker and haven't had a single sim with unsuited LTW, so I'm still not sure what happened to your sim. Maybe something else changed your sim's interests after the LTW was assigned.
Test Subject
#100 Old 28th Jul 2022 at 5:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamare
@Nostural

I've tried creating some sims with this character generator and with in-game townie maker and haven't had a single sim with unsuited LTW, so I'm still not sure what happened to your sim. Maybe something else changed your sim's interests after the LTW was assigned.

Very weird, I did my tests with only your mod and the characterGenerator in my Downloads folder
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