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Featured upload! [UPDATE] 10 new CAS Sliders (Breast, Hip, Waist, Butt, Head and more)

by jonha Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 5:56 PM - Updated 5th Jan 2012 at 11:45 PM by jonha : Update
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This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.

It seems the Pets patch changed the way the sliders work in game somehow. While they still can be installed and used, there may be some unusual deformations on your sims. So please be aware of that. You may continue to use them if you can live with this, but otherwise please wait until I provide an update. Note that this will probably take some time as I need to reinstall and update the game, find out what things EA changed, maybe adjust the necessary modding tools and finally adjust the sliders to the new behavior (if possible). Seems to be a lot of work? It is. And I don't have much time currently, so please be patient.



As I posted here, I started working on Body Sliders for Sims 3. A beta-version was uploaded in this thread.

Included are:
  • Breast (female teen-elder)
  • Waist (all ages and genders)
  • Hip Size (all ages and genders)
  • Butt (both genders, teen-elder)
  • Head Size (all ages and genders)
  • Shoulder Width (all ages and genders, was experimental before)
  • Neck (all ages and genders)
  • Chest (all ages and genders)
  • Leg width (all ages and genders)
  • Calf (all ages and genders)
The head size slider and the neck slider will appear in the head region, the other sliders will appear in the mouth region until someone manages to create a new region in CAS.

These sliders are genetical and will be always visible. For example, if you use the breast slider on males, there will be no visible changes, but you can influence, what genes they may forward to their children.

These sliders use quite realistic ranges that work well on all fit/fatness states and all clothing. If you require more extreme sims, you can use a slider multiplier hack, as included with Awesomemod or NRaas Master Controller, but look at the issues below.

Known issues:
  • The basic female t-shirt (the first in the list) has some strange bone assignments. I tweaked the breast slider, so it should look okay in most cases, but it may look bad on very thin and very muscular sims with very large breasts. If you want to be sure, install GnatGoSplat's T-Shirt Replacement Meshes fix (highly recommended). This is not needed since LN as EA fixed their meshes.
  • When using a slider hack that increases the slider range, you will notice, that with the waist slider, the upper body and head will shrink on extreme settings, and with the hip and butt slider, legs and feet will shrink. Also, the hands may begin to shake. This is by design and can't be fixed unless you redo/create bone assignments for every mesh. This effect is unnoticeable in the default slider range.
  • The arm position is changed by the waist slider and the hands may intersect with the hip on extreme settings.
  • The sliders aren't affected (or are reset) by the randomize function. (this behavior changed with LN, now the sliders get random values as every other slider)
  • The adult breast slider is rather pointy and unrealistic, but probably still better than the LN slider. I'm working on it.

Slider limits:
The game has a hardcoded limit of 20 sliders per section. This unfornuately means, that you can't install unlimited sliders. As the game already has a lot of sliders, there are only very few free slots:
  • Head & Ears: 2
  • Eyes: 3
  • Nose: 3
  • Mouth: 7
As 2 of my sliders go into the head section and 8 of my sliders go into the mouth section, you can't install all my sliders at the same time without hacks. In this case I suggest installing everything but the calf slider. Also, you have to be careful if you have other sliders installed because they need slots, too.

You can install for example Twallans Master Controller and Master Controller Integration, this Slider Hack, Awesomemod, or any other mod that increases or removes the limit. But all these mods only work for specific game versions (this means if you update the game you will need to update them too, or you will get startup crashes or other issues) and they may conflict with other core mods (Twallans mods don't conflict, because they are no core mod).

If the game is crashing at startup after installing a core mod, or you are getting messages about incompatible mods, you probably
  • use mismatching game/mod versions
  • use multiple core mods at the same time
  • don't have the d3dx9_31.dll in game\bin (only necessary when your mod is not in your my documents directory)

Installation:
You have to install the package labeled BASE in any case, as it contains all the texts for the user interface. Apart from that you can choose freely, what sliders you wish to install, if you make sure, you don't exceed the slider limit.

Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Updating:
If you previously used my 5 (or 6) sliders, just download the new ones and overwrite the old files. Sims will retain their body shape (with the exception of very small tuning changes).



FAQ:
Problem: My game crashes after installing this mod!
Answer: Make sure your slider hack and and your game version are compatible and you don't have old hacks installed. The sliders themselves should not be able crash the game.

Problem: My lip/jaw (or whatever) slider stopped working!
Answer: You are exceeding the slider limit of 20 sliders per section. Please install some mod to remove/increase the slider limit. Or uninstall sliders to stay under the limit.

Problem: It doesn't work!
Answer: Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Problem: It still doesn't work!
Answer: They work. Either you put the packages to the wrong location, or your framework is not properly installed. Maybe try Delphy's Framework tool. Maybe try installing another mod so you can be sure if it's my sliders or a general framework problem.

Problem: I can't find them! / Where do they appear ingame?
Answer: Don't look where the fatness slider is. They are actually facial sliders so they are in Head->General and Mouth->General. See the rightmost screenshot. Try to scroll down.

Problem: I'm too stupid/young/foreign/lazy to understand the install instructions! I still have issues!
Answer: I'm sorry, but I won't explain everything again and I can't tell you more as I already wrote here. If you have a specific question or problem you can ask me, but I won't reply to posts like "I can't get it to work!" or "I don't understand the instructions!". I got several messages from people who had problems, and I just told them to read and follow the descriptions again and then it worked for most of them. So just read and try it again (and then maybe again) and if it still doesn't work and you have some usable problem description, you can pm me or leave a comment. Please note that this download has a lot of comments and I can't reply to all. If you think you have an important topic (and not some random "I can't get it to work"-post where you tried it only one time) and I forgot you, please write a pm which I tend to check more often. But trying to add a comment first is probably a good idea, because other people might be able to help you, too.

Question: Can you make a arm/bodybuilder/eye/height/belly/whatever slider?
Answer: Sorry, I don't have plans to create additional sliders at the moment. There are already a lot of sliders from different people.

Question: Does it work together with Awesomemod or another core mod?
Answer: Yes. If the core mod itself removes the slider limit (as Awesomemod does), everything is fine, else you have to make sure you don't install too many sliders.

Question: Where can I find other sliders?
Answer:(List is incomplete, just google)

Question: Can I use them together?
Answer: Of course. Just make sure, to either stay under the 20 slider limit or otherwise install a core mod that removes the limit (recommended).

Compatibility:
The sliders work with all currently known game versions (tested up to version 1.29) and should work with all future versions, unless EA does big changes to the slider system. In game versions after 1.24 there may be minor deformation issues as explained at the top of the page. They work on PC and Mac. Some people have reported that they work even with The Sims Medieval, but I don't have this game so I can not give you install instructions or support for this.

The possibility of a conflict with other mods is nearly nonexistent as a conflicting mod would need to use the same instance IDs. Therefore a conflict can only happen, if someone wants to produce a conflict, or if someone does a really bad job at cloning my sliders and publishes his/her sliders with the same IDs.

Additional Credits:
I want to thank Delphy for his Small Editors and everyone else, wo did research and wrote tools, that helped me creating this (s3pi, s3pe, MilkShape exporters/importers, Blender, Wolfram Alpha, Gimp, and many more).

Thanks to everyone, who tested this and sent me feedback or translations.

Tags: #breast, #size, #waist, #hip, #butt, #buttock, #slider, #head, #cas, #body

Type:

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3
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Jonha_Sliders.zip | --> Install this if you want the sliders. It should work with every game version. Please install the BASE package inside this zip, too.

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Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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Test Subject
#676 Old 9th Mar 2010 at 6:10 PM
got it. I must have put the .dll in the wrong folder. Works fine now. Great mod!
Scholar
Original Poster
#677 Old 9th Mar 2010 at 10:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pentacube
got it. I must have put the .dll in the wrong folder. Works fine now. Great mod!


I'm happy, that it works for you, but the dll file only prevents crashing when using the SliderHack and has no effect at all regarding the sliders.
Test Subject
#678 Old 10th Mar 2010 at 8:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pentacube
Mod looks like a lot of fun but I can't seem to get it to work. I have high end loft stuff and have updated it to the 3.1.7, replaced the dll file with the modified version, and installed the [Jonha_SliderHack_1.10.6-2.5.12-3.1.7.zip] and [Jonha_Sliders.zip]. But there are no sliders in character creation. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Not sure if this would help you or you already did it, my Sims 3 WA has the mods folder. the page where you see the MODS folder i have a resource.cfg file there if i remove it all my mods dissapear. so again not sure if you have that but try and get a resource file there.
Test Subject
#679 Old 11th Mar 2010 at 4:07 AM
When I try to go into CAS or into one of my saved games , the game shuts down. Does anyone else have this problem?
Please help me. Thanks.
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I finally fixed the problem. It works GREAT now. Thanks!
Test Subject
#680 Old 11th Mar 2010 at 4:03 PM
Hi Jonha

I was wondering if you can advise me.....
I downloaded your sliders a couple of months ago and created the best sim i have ever made using them. Then last week i updated my system to Windows 7 and copied my package folder to my new system. At this point my game had updated itself to WA 2.5 so i have gone back and re-downloaded your slider update that is compatiable with my updated game.
But now when i go into the game and load my favorite sim, she looks different! Its mainly her eyes and i cant get them back to the way they were!!
How come this has happened and can you give me any tips on how i can get her to load the way she orginally was?
Thank you
Test Subject
#681 Old 11th Mar 2010 at 10:49 PM
Someone may have already dealt with this issue before, but I have just updated my sliders and I find that the butt slider increases the belly, so front and back increase in equal amounts. Have I missed something ?
Scholar
Original Poster
#682 Old 12th Mar 2010 at 6:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarleneJ
Someone may have already dealt with this issue before, but I have just updated my sliders and I find that the butt slider increases the belly, so front and back increase in equal amounts. Have I missed something ?


No, this is by design as there is neither a seperate belly nor a separate butt "bone". If it annoys you, remove the butt slider. It can't be fixed.
Test Subject
#683 Old 12th Mar 2010 at 6:24 PM
Ok no problem. I would like to be able to download the foot slider, but as the site is entirely in german I dont see how this is possible. Is there any other way to find the foot slider ?
Scholar
Original Poster
#684 Old 12th Mar 2010 at 11:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarleneJ
Ok no problem. I would like to be able to download the foot slider, but as the site is entirely in german I dont see how this is possible. Is there any other way to find the foot slider ?


You can register in english, too, on this site:

http://niksim.forumprofi.de/ucp.php...ange_lang=en_us

But I don't think, it's really worth it, as the feet will begin to shake when resizing them.
Lab Assistant
#685 Old 12th Mar 2010 at 11:53 PM
I'm wondering is it Compatible with Sims 3 High-End Loft stuff? (:

Kjsdx3.

graphic designer. video editor. anime fan. sims freak.
Scholar
Original Poster
#686 Old 13th Mar 2010 at 11:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kjsdx3
I'm wondering is it Compatible with Sims 3 High-End Loft stuff? (:


Yes, it is and the sliders (not the sliderhack) are probably already compatible with future EPs, too.
Test Subject
#687 Old 13th Mar 2010 at 3:38 PM
Hey Jonha,

I am having a bit of an issue with the Sliders, they don't seem to work for me, I have the core game, and its updated to the latest ver, I have tried installing it using the SIM3 Update, and well as monkey tools to no avail. When I tired the S3U, its says the install fails, when I use monkey tools, it installs alright, but they don't show up?.

Any Ideas?

Thanks in advance

Don
Lab Assistant
#688 Old 13th Mar 2010 at 4:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonha
Yes, it is and the sliders (not the sliderhack) are probably already compatible with future EPs, too.


Thank you. I will test it out now. :D

Kjsdx3.

graphic designer. video editor. anime fan. sims freak.
Scholar
Original Poster
#689 Old 13th Mar 2010 at 7:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by darnstrong
Hey Jonha,

I am having a bit of an issue with the Sliders, they don't seem to work for me, I have the core game, and its updated to the latest ver, I have tried installing it using the SIM3 Update, and well as monkey tools to no avail. When I tired the S3U, its says the install fails, when I use monkey tools, it installs alright, but they don't show up?.

Any Ideas?


Please do it manually. I don't know about S3U and the monkey tools isn't updated for Wa and HELS.

And then read the faq on the overview page about them not showing up and how to install them.
Test Subject
#690 Old 13th Mar 2010 at 10:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonha
Please do it manually. I don't know about S3U and the monkey tools isn't updated for Wa and HELS.

And then read the faq on the overview page about them not showing up and how to install them.


yeah I tried doing it Manually as well, NOTA!, Something must be off with my install, I got other mods to work, but the sliders just wont take weird

Don
Test Subject
#691 Old 14th Mar 2010 at 6:52 PM
How do I uninstall this? My game is crashing
Scholar
Original Poster
#692 Old 14th Mar 2010 at 8:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetnrican
How do I uninstall this? My game is crashing


You already have pm. Just remove the files you installed before.
Test Subject
#693 Old 14th Mar 2010 at 8:21 PM
i cant find them on my computer
Scholar
Original Poster
#694 Old 14th Mar 2010 at 9:08 PM
Well, you installed them. So you probably have them and you should know where they are. And I told you where they probably are.

Please just read the package installation help about where the package files are. I can't give you more help.
Test Subject
#695 Old 15th Mar 2010 at 3:45 AM
i am trying to install the hack but my game keeps crashing, i looked and realised that i need to in stall this d3dx9_31.dll, but for sum reason when i click it to open, it tells me that i do not have a program assossiated with it. So i just download the BASE sliders, but when i do my other sliders dont work, AGH, PLZ HELP!
Lab Assistant
#696 Old 15th Mar 2010 at 5:02 AM
Hey Jonha, great mod. I tested it and it works nicely. I was wondering though if there is a way to only install certain sliders from it? Also I was curious if it could be made into a non core mod?.. and finally I have a couple other sliders out there and am not sure how everything works together... I was looking at the files and see different threshholds and limits on all the diff slider packs. I use Delphys breast sliders and that foot slider thing.

Great package by the way!

RUN FOREST RUN!
Test Subject
#697 Old 15th Mar 2010 at 5:58 AM
This mod worked beautifully for me prior to installing High End Loft content.
I did a lot of troubleshooting, removed the files/packages. Reinstalled them. Even to the extent of redownloading. And everything seems to work for me but the sliders.
So I'm not sure what issues installing High End Loft created, but it doesn't like the sliders anymore it seems.

It is a wonderful mod, however.
Scholar
Original Poster
#698 Old 15th Mar 2010 at 7:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall600
i am trying to install the hack but my game keeps crashing, i looked and realised that i need to in stall this d3dx9_31.dll, but for sum reason when i click it to open, it tells me that i do not have a program assossiated with it.!


Well, don't doubleclick it, put in in the game\bin directory. You don't need to open it, the game will read it automatically on startup if its in the correct location.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadWizardDM
Hey Jonha, great mod. I tested it and it works nicely. I was wondering though if there is a way to only install certain sliders from it?


Of course. In Jonha_Sliders there are many different .package files. Just install only the ones you want, as as it says, everytime install the BASE package or you get strange numbers in the UI.

Quote:
Also I was curious if it could be made into a non core mod?..


The sliders are no core mod. Only the SliderHack, which will allow you to install more sliders.

Quote:
and finally I have a couple other sliders out there and am not sure how everything works together... I was looking at the files and see different threshholds and limits on all the diff slider packs. I use Delphys breast sliders and that foot slider thing.


The sliders work nicely together. Of course it doesn't make much sense to have two different breast sliders, if you want, you can either remove mine (see above) or Delphy's, but you can also leave both in.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarlita
This mod worked beautifully for me prior to installing High End Loft content.
I did a lot of troubleshooting, removed the files/packages. Reinstalled them. Even to the extent of redownloading. And everything seems to work for me but the sliders.
So I'm not sure what issues installing High End Loft created, but it doesn't like the sliders anymore it seems.


Have you moved the mods to the HELS directory? If not, please try this. Also please be aware that you may need to update your sliderhack and you need to copy the dll file in the new HELS directory, if you haven't already.
Lab Assistant
#699 Old 15th Mar 2010 at 9:11 PM
thanks soooo much it's absolutely invaluable!
Test Subject
#700 Old 16th Mar 2010 at 6:37 AM
I tried downloading it, but once i click to open it in WinZIP it tell me denied? What am I doing wrong? Thanks
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