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Featured upload! [UPDATE] 10 new CAS Sliders (Breast, Hip, Waist, Butt, Head and more)

by jonha Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 5:56 PM - Updated 5th Jan 2012 at 11:45 PM by jonha : Update
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This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.

It seems the Pets patch changed the way the sliders work in game somehow. While they still can be installed and used, there may be some unusual deformations on your sims. So please be aware of that. You may continue to use them if you can live with this, but otherwise please wait until I provide an update. Note that this will probably take some time as I need to reinstall and update the game, find out what things EA changed, maybe adjust the necessary modding tools and finally adjust the sliders to the new behavior (if possible). Seems to be a lot of work? It is. And I don't have much time currently, so please be patient.



As I posted here, I started working on Body Sliders for Sims 3. A beta-version was uploaded in this thread.

Included are:
  • Breast (female teen-elder)
  • Waist (all ages and genders)
  • Hip Size (all ages and genders)
  • Butt (both genders, teen-elder)
  • Head Size (all ages and genders)
  • Shoulder Width (all ages and genders, was experimental before)
  • Neck (all ages and genders)
  • Chest (all ages and genders)
  • Leg width (all ages and genders)
  • Calf (all ages and genders)
The head size slider and the neck slider will appear in the head region, the other sliders will appear in the mouth region until someone manages to create a new region in CAS.

These sliders are genetical and will be always visible. For example, if you use the breast slider on males, there will be no visible changes, but you can influence, what genes they may forward to their children.

These sliders use quite realistic ranges that work well on all fit/fatness states and all clothing. If you require more extreme sims, you can use a slider multiplier hack, as included with Awesomemod or NRaas Master Controller, but look at the issues below.

Known issues:
  • The basic female t-shirt (the first in the list) has some strange bone assignments. I tweaked the breast slider, so it should look okay in most cases, but it may look bad on very thin and very muscular sims with very large breasts. If you want to be sure, install GnatGoSplat's T-Shirt Replacement Meshes fix (highly recommended). This is not needed since LN as EA fixed their meshes.
  • When using a slider hack that increases the slider range, you will notice, that with the waist slider, the upper body and head will shrink on extreme settings, and with the hip and butt slider, legs and feet will shrink. Also, the hands may begin to shake. This is by design and can't be fixed unless you redo/create bone assignments for every mesh. This effect is unnoticeable in the default slider range.
  • The arm position is changed by the waist slider and the hands may intersect with the hip on extreme settings.
  • The sliders aren't affected (or are reset) by the randomize function. (this behavior changed with LN, now the sliders get random values as every other slider)
  • The adult breast slider is rather pointy and unrealistic, but probably still better than the LN slider. I'm working on it.

Slider limits:
The game has a hardcoded limit of 20 sliders per section. This unfornuately means, that you can't install unlimited sliders. As the game already has a lot of sliders, there are only very few free slots:
  • Head & Ears: 2
  • Eyes: 3
  • Nose: 3
  • Mouth: 7
As 2 of my sliders go into the head section and 8 of my sliders go into the mouth section, you can't install all my sliders at the same time without hacks. In this case I suggest installing everything but the calf slider. Also, you have to be careful if you have other sliders installed because they need slots, too.

You can install for example Twallans Master Controller and Master Controller Integration, this Slider Hack, Awesomemod, or any other mod that increases or removes the limit. But all these mods only work for specific game versions (this means if you update the game you will need to update them too, or you will get startup crashes or other issues) and they may conflict with other core mods (Twallans mods don't conflict, because they are no core mod).

If the game is crashing at startup after installing a core mod, or you are getting messages about incompatible mods, you probably
  • use mismatching game/mod versions
  • use multiple core mods at the same time
  • don't have the d3dx9_31.dll in game\bin (only necessary when your mod is not in your my documents directory)

Installation:
You have to install the package labeled BASE in any case, as it contains all the texts for the user interface. Apart from that you can choose freely, what sliders you wish to install, if you make sure, you don't exceed the slider limit.

Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Updating:
If you previously used my 5 (or 6) sliders, just download the new ones and overwrite the old files. Sims will retain their body shape (with the exception of very small tuning changes).



FAQ:
Problem: My game crashes after installing this mod!
Answer: Make sure your slider hack and and your game version are compatible and you don't have old hacks installed. The sliders themselves should not be able crash the game.

Problem: My lip/jaw (or whatever) slider stopped working!
Answer: You are exceeding the slider limit of 20 sliders per section. Please install some mod to remove/increase the slider limit. Or uninstall sliders to stay under the limit.

Problem: It doesn't work!
Answer: Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Problem: It still doesn't work!
Answer: They work. Either you put the packages to the wrong location, or your framework is not properly installed. Maybe try Delphy's Framework tool. Maybe try installing another mod so you can be sure if it's my sliders or a general framework problem.

Problem: I can't find them! / Where do they appear ingame?
Answer: Don't look where the fatness slider is. They are actually facial sliders so they are in Head->General and Mouth->General. See the rightmost screenshot. Try to scroll down.

Problem: I'm too stupid/young/foreign/lazy to understand the install instructions! I still have issues!
Answer: I'm sorry, but I won't explain everything again and I can't tell you more as I already wrote here. If you have a specific question or problem you can ask me, but I won't reply to posts like "I can't get it to work!" or "I don't understand the instructions!". I got several messages from people who had problems, and I just told them to read and follow the descriptions again and then it worked for most of them. So just read and try it again (and then maybe again) and if it still doesn't work and you have some usable problem description, you can pm me or leave a comment. Please note that this download has a lot of comments and I can't reply to all. If you think you have an important topic (and not some random "I can't get it to work"-post where you tried it only one time) and I forgot you, please write a pm which I tend to check more often. But trying to add a comment first is probably a good idea, because other people might be able to help you, too.

Question: Can you make a arm/bodybuilder/eye/height/belly/whatever slider?
Answer: Sorry, I don't have plans to create additional sliders at the moment. There are already a lot of sliders from different people.

Question: Does it work together with Awesomemod or another core mod?
Answer: Yes. If the core mod itself removes the slider limit (as Awesomemod does), everything is fine, else you have to make sure you don't install too many sliders.

Question: Where can I find other sliders?
Answer:(List is incomplete, just google)

Question: Can I use them together?
Answer: Of course. Just make sure, to either stay under the 20 slider limit or otherwise install a core mod that removes the limit (recommended).

Compatibility:
The sliders work with all currently known game versions (tested up to version 1.29) and should work with all future versions, unless EA does big changes to the slider system. In game versions after 1.24 there may be minor deformation issues as explained at the top of the page. They work on PC and Mac. Some people have reported that they work even with The Sims Medieval, but I don't have this game so I can not give you install instructions or support for this.

The possibility of a conflict with other mods is nearly nonexistent as a conflicting mod would need to use the same instance IDs. Therefore a conflict can only happen, if someone wants to produce a conflict, or if someone does a really bad job at cloning my sliders and publishes his/her sliders with the same IDs.

Additional Credits:
I want to thank Delphy for his Small Editors and everyone else, wo did research and wrote tools, that helped me creating this (s3pi, s3pe, MilkShape exporters/importers, Blender, Wolfram Alpha, Gimp, and many more).

Thanks to everyone, who tested this and sent me feedback or translations.

Tags: #breast, #size, #waist, #hip, #butt, #buttock, #slider, #head, #cas, #body

Type:

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3
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Jonha_Sliders.zip | --> Install this if you want the sliders. It should work with every game version. Please install the BASE package inside this zip, too.

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Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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#701 Old 16th Mar 2010 at 8:00 AM
Awesome! I've been waiting for this feature ever since SIMS 2 came out. Thanks!
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#702 Old 16th Mar 2010 at 11:27 AM
I have the slider hack 1.10 in my electronic arts/sims 3 high end loft/ mods/ packages but it doesn't show in the game? I've read all the help but it doesn't show. do i put it somewhere else?
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#703 Old 16th Mar 2010 at 6:45 PM
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Originally Posted by redrose_rocker
I tried downloading it, but once i click to open it in WinZIP it tell me denied? What am I doing wrong? Thanks


Please make sure, you have permissions to write in the mods folder. Try extracting them to the desktop and copy them manually.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rh1
I have the slider hack 1.10 in my electronic arts/sims 3 high end loft/ mods/ packages but it doesn't show in the game? I've read all the help but it doesn't show. do i put it somewhere else?


Folder looks right, make sure, your framework is working correctly and please test if other mods work. Also note, that the SliderHack doesn't give you new sliders, please install the first download on the page if you want them.
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#704 Old 17th Mar 2010 at 12:07 AM Last edited by Scarlita : 17th Mar 2010 at 12:39 AM.
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Originally Posted by jonha
Have you moved the mods to the HELS directory? If not, please try this. Also please be aware that you may need to update your sliderhack and you need to copy the dll file in the new HELS directory, if you haven't already.


I did, indeed try this. This was actually the first thing I tried doing.
I will double check my files again, just to make sure the files are most recent and try this step again.

EDIT:
All right, apparently all I needed was to give it one last shot with the re-download and placing in the appropriate folders. It's finally working as intended for me. . . Technology.

Thanks again, Jonha for this amazing mod. I was wishing this was all ready implemented in Sims 3 when I bought it. And when it wasn't, 'lo! You had this mod for it!
You've been a wonderful help to all of us with prompt responses on troubleshooting as well. We owe you much for your diligence to this. <3
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#705 Old 18th Mar 2010 at 11:11 AM
Jonha_SliderHack_1.9.22-2.4.7-3.0.zip
Jonha_SliderHack_1.10.6-2.5.12-3.1.7.zip
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I have game 1.10.6-2.5.12-3.0, i cant use this mod?
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#706 Old 18th Mar 2010 at 11:28 AM
my Mods folder is in WA game, where i should pud UMIDO? In Sims 3, WA, HELS Mods folder? Becouse this file automatically installing in Sims 3/Mods.
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#707 Old 18th Mar 2010 at 5:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rududu2
Jonha_SliderHack_1.9.22-2.4.7-3.0.zip
Jonha_SliderHack_1.10.6-2.5.12-3.1.7.zip
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I have game 1.10.6-2.5.12-3.0, i cant use this mod?


Strange. Why don't you update HELS?

Anyway, it should be possible to use one of the versions you mentioned. Just try it out. If you have the wrong version it will crash at startup.
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#708 Old 19th Mar 2010 at 10:08 AM
these are awesome! but why r the in mouth size? is there any way to move them to basic information, also i have a idea for another slide maybe clothes size, that moves all sliders to like a size 6,8,10,12,14? just a thought?
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#709 Old 19th Mar 2010 at 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jonha
Please make sure, you have permissions to write in the mods folder. Try extracting them to the desktop and copy them manually.



Folder looks right, make sure, your framework is working correctly and please test if other mods work. Also note, that the SliderHack doesn't give you new sliders, please install the first download on the page if you want them.


Hi thanks Jonha, I was being thick, I didn't install the base package unto my game but it works now thanks so much it's a great tool. Works with 3.1 thanks.
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#710 Old 19th Mar 2010 at 6:55 PM
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Originally Posted by galadriel_394
these are awesome! but why r the in mouth size?


I'm working on creating a body slider area, but didn't managed it so far.

Quote:
is there any way to move them to basic information, also i have a idea for another slide maybe clothes size, that moves all sliders to like a size 6,8,10,12,14? just a thought?


I'm working on a body height slider, if you are talking about this. Resizing only the clothing, but not the body isn't possible.
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#711 Old 20th Mar 2010 at 9:42 AM Last edited by darling_luna : 20th Mar 2010 at 9:58 AM.
I figured it out! lol That whole 'two breast slider' thing confused me for a bit. Overall I think it is awesome and makes my sims look more realistic. Thank you!
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#712 Old 20th Mar 2010 at 11:49 PM
D: D: D: when i try to download it, it says access denied on my downloader WinRAR thingy!!!! I WANT TO DO THIS!!!!! D***:
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#713 Old 21st Mar 2010 at 5:51 PM
Question why did not EA included this kind of option in the first place?

Bazinga!!!
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#714 Old 21st Mar 2010 at 11:00 PM
Hello!
I would love to download this but I can download .zip files, just .rar files. I have a mac and suffit and everything but I do not know how to fix the problem, could someone please tell me?
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#715 Old 22nd Mar 2010 at 4:32 AM Last edited by Sims3Teen 2 : 22nd Mar 2010 at 4:35 AM. Reason: Forgot to say Thanks!
I am having trouble downloading mods. I download it and it says open to or save file. I open it to the Sims 3 launcher.But it's not in the game. Thanks for making a mod like this! But I am having trouble downloading it!
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#716 Old 22nd Mar 2010 at 4:56 AM
Dear Jonha,
I seem to have found a bug. I have the nude patch and when I use the body sliders it causes my sims to go into the shower with their bathing suits. Not a major deal or problem,but I thought you should know about it.

Fayeli

DONT make me sniff your shoe!!!
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#717 Old 22nd Mar 2010 at 6:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fayeli
Dear Jonha,
I seem to have found a bug. I have the nude patch and when I use the body sliders it causes my sims to go into the shower with their bathing suits. Not a major deal or problem,but I thought you should know about it.


Not related to my mod, your sim probably has the "never nude" trait. If not, try deleting the game cache files.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sims3Teen 2
I am having trouble downloading mods. I download it and it says open to or save file. I open it to the Sims 3 launcher.But it's not in the game. Thanks for making a mod like this! But I am having trouble downloading it!


Don't use the launcher read the front page on how to install it.
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#718 Old 23rd Mar 2010 at 11:51 AM
OMGthis is so cool i just downloaded it and i cant wait to try it!!! tg someone made this... now all i need to find is the rejuvination chamber thingy and get that so my sim can have curves and not get older looking/saggy LOL

Thanks again :D
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#719 Old 23rd Mar 2010 at 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jonha
Not related to my mod, your sim probably has the "never nude" trait. If not, try deleting the game cache files.




They dont have the never nude trait. Never used it. I'll try deleting the game cache files. I just was trying to say that when I use the sliders they appeared in a bathing suit. When I removed the sliders they showed nude. I'll try what you suggested. Thanks and this really is a great mod.

DONT make me sniff your shoe!!!
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#720 Old 24th Mar 2010 at 12:29 AM
Just wanted to say great mod! You should find a way to make these accessible at the change appearance screen to customize premade sims.
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#721 Old 24th Mar 2010 at 7:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Certifyed
Just wanted to say great mod! You should find a way to make these accessible at the change appearance screen to customize premade sims.


I suggest using awesomemod with the "editsim" cheat. Other core mods may work, too.
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#722 Old 24th Mar 2010 at 10:44 PM
Default This is a great Mod!
Well this is great, I've installed it..i think. But I can't find the sliders for anything :S
Please can you help? Thankyou!
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#723 Old 24th Mar 2010 at 11:21 PM
*Sigh*
I have deleted the cache's, I have started over, I have gone through everything in my mind. I have taken everything out but this and the mosaic removal..It still shows her in a bathing suit. (Again they DO NOT have the never nude trait.) I dont know. Maybe it's a conflict between the mosaic and this, I dont know.

Sorry for being such a hassle,
Fayeli

DONT make me sniff your shoe!!!
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