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Featured upload! [UPDATE] 10 new CAS Sliders (Breast, Hip, Waist, Butt, Head and more)

by jonha Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 4:56 PM - Updated 5th Jan 2012 at 10:45 PM by jonha : Update
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This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.

It seems the Pets patch changed the way the sliders work in game somehow. While they still can be installed and used, there may be some unusual deformations on your sims. So please be aware of that. You may continue to use them if you can live with this, but otherwise please wait until I provide an update. Note that this will probably take some time as I need to reinstall and update the game, find out what things EA changed, maybe adjust the necessary modding tools and finally adjust the sliders to the new behavior (if possible). Seems to be a lot of work? It is. And I don't have much time currently, so please be patient.



As I posted here, I started working on Body Sliders for Sims 3. A beta-version was uploaded in this thread.

Included are:
  • Breast (female teen-elder)
  • Waist (all ages and genders)
  • Hip Size (all ages and genders)
  • Butt (both genders, teen-elder)
  • Head Size (all ages and genders)
  • Shoulder Width (all ages and genders, was experimental before)
  • Neck (all ages and genders)
  • Chest (all ages and genders)
  • Leg width (all ages and genders)
  • Calf (all ages and genders)
The head size slider and the neck slider will appear in the head region, the other sliders will appear in the mouth region until someone manages to create a new region in CAS.

These sliders are genetical and will be always visible. For example, if you use the breast slider on males, there will be no visible changes, but you can influence, what genes they may forward to their children.

These sliders use quite realistic ranges that work well on all fit/fatness states and all clothing. If you require more extreme sims, you can use a slider multiplier hack, as included with Awesomemod or NRaas Master Controller, but look at the issues below.

Known issues:
  • The basic female t-shirt (the first in the list) has some strange bone assignments. I tweaked the breast slider, so it should look okay in most cases, but it may look bad on very thin and very muscular sims with very large breasts. If you want to be sure, install GnatGoSplat's T-Shirt Replacement Meshes fix (highly recommended). This is not needed since LN as EA fixed their meshes.
  • When using a slider hack that increases the slider range, you will notice, that with the waist slider, the upper body and head will shrink on extreme settings, and with the hip and butt slider, legs and feet will shrink. Also, the hands may begin to shake. This is by design and can't be fixed unless you redo/create bone assignments for every mesh. This effect is unnoticeable in the default slider range.
  • The arm position is changed by the waist slider and the hands may intersect with the hip on extreme settings.
  • The sliders aren't affected (or are reset) by the randomize function. (this behavior changed with LN, now the sliders get random values as every other slider)
  • The adult breast slider is rather pointy and unrealistic, but probably still better than the LN slider. I'm working on it.

Slider limits:
The game has a hardcoded limit of 20 sliders per section. This unfornuately means, that you can't install unlimited sliders. As the game already has a lot of sliders, there are only very few free slots:
  • Head & Ears: 2
  • Eyes: 3
  • Nose: 3
  • Mouth: 7
As 2 of my sliders go into the head section and 8 of my sliders go into the mouth section, you can't install all my sliders at the same time without hacks. In this case I suggest installing everything but the calf slider. Also, you have to be careful if you have other sliders installed because they need slots, too.

You can install for example Twallans Master Controller and Master Controller Integration, this Slider Hack, Awesomemod, or any other mod that increases or removes the limit. But all these mods only work for specific game versions (this means if you update the game you will need to update them too, or you will get startup crashes or other issues) and they may conflict with other core mods (Twallans mods don't conflict, because they are no core mod).

If the game is crashing at startup after installing a core mod, or you are getting messages about incompatible mods, you probably
  • use mismatching game/mod versions
  • use multiple core mods at the same time
  • don't have the d3dx9_31.dll in game\bin (only necessary when your mod is not in your my documents directory)

Installation:
You have to install the package labeled BASE in any case, as it contains all the texts for the user interface. Apart from that you can choose freely, what sliders you wish to install, if you make sure, you don't exceed the slider limit.

Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Updating:
If you previously used my 5 (or 6) sliders, just download the new ones and overwrite the old files. Sims will retain their body shape (with the exception of very small tuning changes).



FAQ:
Problem: My game crashes after installing this mod!
Answer: Make sure your slider hack and and your game version are compatible and you don't have old hacks installed. The sliders themselves should not be able crash the game.

Problem: My lip/jaw (or whatever) slider stopped working!
Answer: You are exceeding the slider limit of 20 sliders per section. Please install some mod to remove/increase the slider limit. Or uninstall sliders to stay under the limit.

Problem: It doesn't work!
Answer: Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Problem: It still doesn't work!
Answer: They work. Either you put the packages to the wrong location, or your framework is not properly installed. Maybe try Delphy's Framework tool. Maybe try installing another mod so you can be sure if it's my sliders or a general framework problem.

Problem: I can't find them! / Where do they appear ingame?
Answer: Don't look where the fatness slider is. They are actually facial sliders so they are in Head->General and Mouth->General. See the rightmost screenshot. Try to scroll down.

Problem: I'm too stupid/young/foreign/lazy to understand the install instructions! I still have issues!
Answer: I'm sorry, but I won't explain everything again and I can't tell you more as I already wrote here. If you have a specific question or problem you can ask me, but I won't reply to posts like "I can't get it to work!" or "I don't understand the instructions!". I got several messages from people who had problems, and I just told them to read and follow the descriptions again and then it worked for most of them. So just read and try it again (and then maybe again) and if it still doesn't work and you have some usable problem description, you can pm me or leave a comment. Please note that this download has a lot of comments and I can't reply to all. If you think you have an important topic (and not some random "I can't get it to work"-post where you tried it only one time) and I forgot you, please write a pm which I tend to check more often. But trying to add a comment first is probably a good idea, because other people might be able to help you, too.

Question: Can you make a arm/bodybuilder/eye/height/belly/whatever slider?
Answer: Sorry, I don't have plans to create additional sliders at the moment. There are already a lot of sliders from different people.

Question: Does it work together with Awesomemod or another core mod?
Answer: Yes. If the core mod itself removes the slider limit (as Awesomemod does), everything is fine, else you have to make sure you don't install too many sliders.

Question: Where can I find other sliders?
Answer:(List is incomplete, just google)

Question: Can I use them together?
Answer: Of course. Just make sure, to either stay under the 20 slider limit or otherwise install a core mod that removes the limit (recommended).

Compatibility:
The sliders work with all currently known game versions (tested up to version 1.29) and should work with all future versions, unless EA does big changes to the slider system. In game versions after 1.24 there may be minor deformation issues as explained at the top of the page. They work on PC and Mac. Some people have reported that they work even with The Sims Medieval, but I don't have this game so I can not give you install instructions or support for this.

The possibility of a conflict with other mods is nearly nonexistent as a conflicting mod would need to use the same instance IDs. Therefore a conflict can only happen, if someone wants to produce a conflict, or if someone does a really bad job at cloning my sliders and publishes his/her sliders with the same IDs.

Additional Credits:
I want to thank Delphy for his Small Editors and everyone else, wo did research and wrote tools, that helped me creating this (s3pi, s3pe, MilkShape exporters/importers, Blender, Wolfram Alpha, Gimp, and many more).

Thanks to everyone, who tested this and sent me feedback or translations.

Tags: #breast, #size, #waist, #hip, #butt, #buttock, #slider, #head, #cas, #body

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You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3
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Jonha_Sliders.zip | --> Install this if you want the sliders. It should work with every game version. Please install the BASE package inside this zip, too.

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Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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Test Subject
#601 Old 18th Feb 2010 at 6:48 PM
Now all we need is a bulge slider for the male sims suffering from "Ken Doll" syndrome... Coin purse to duffel bag.

How can I have a proper 80s rocker superstar without the crotch bump upfront? ^_^
Test Subject
#602 Old 18th Feb 2010 at 7:06 PM
Hey,ehhm i just wanted to sayx that there must be an issue with the 2.5.12 versio n of the game, because my sims 3 wouldnt start anymore with that patch. (2.5.12.004002)

anyway thanks for the slides anyway
Scholar
Original Poster
#603 Old 18th Feb 2010 at 7:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FurballRZ
Hey,ehhm i just wanted to sayx that there must be an issue with the 2.5.12 versio n of the game, because my sims 3 wouldnt start anymore with that patch. (2.5.12.004002)


Have you updated your sliderhack if you use it?
Lab Assistant
#604 Old 19th Feb 2010 at 1:41 AM Last edited by nobahdee : 19th Feb 2010 at 10:57 PM.
I have been waiting for someone to make these sliders FOREVER! lol. Thank you so much Jonha for making these sliders. I was so tired of looking at my simself and thinking: "My butt is not flat." Or "My hips are definitely wider than that." xD You rock!
Inventor
#605 Old 19th Feb 2010 at 6:34 AM
I DLed these when they first came out and love them and I just had to come back and THANK YOU for keeping them updated!!
Lab Assistant
#606 Old 19th Feb 2010 at 12:26 PM
After testing everything out, there is only one issue I have with this mod and I noticed it when I made some attempts to tweaks the lips of my sims; the sliders for the lips, other than changing the width of the lips in whole and the height, everything else for the lips did not work. The sliders would move, but the lips remained unchanged. Other than that, I'm happy to see such body changes with my sims. =)
Lab Assistant
#607 Old 19th Feb 2010 at 2:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nobahdee
After testing everything out, there is only one issue I have with this mod and I noticed it when I made some attempts to tweaks the lips of my sims; the sliders for the lips, other than changing the width of the lips in whole and the height, everything else for the lips did not work. The sliders would move, but the lips remained unchanged. Other than that, I'm happy to see such body changes with my sims. =)


Well, seems your mouth sliders don't work, 'cause your slider count exceeds the allowed count of sliders in the game.
When this happens, the game disables some sliders. Thats pretty normal. You just have to DL a mod, which extends the count of sliders in the game.
As for me, I'm using this one: http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=381046

But maybe you should read Jonhas description first.
He explains the "disabled sliders issue" in there. And he also put a link to the Extended Game Core there.
Test Subject
#608 Old 19th Feb 2010 at 6:26 PM
Very cool. Thank you THIIIIIS much! =^-^=
Lab Assistant
#609 Old 19th Feb 2010 at 10:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by melody2
Well, seems your mouth sliders don't work, 'cause your slider count exceeds the allowed count of sliders in the game.
When this happens, the game disables some sliders. Thats pretty normal. You just have to DL a mod, which extends the count of sliders in the game.
As for me, I'm using this one: http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=381046

But maybe you should read Jonhas description first.
He explains the "disabled sliders issue" in there. And he also put a link to the Extended Game Core there.


D'oh! lol. Ok. I read Jonhas' description wrong and re-read it again...Thank you, melody and pardon my absentminded mistake there. :P
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Lab Assistant
#610 Old 20th Feb 2010 at 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by nobahdee
D'oh! lol. Ok. I read Jonhas' description wrong and re-read it again...Thank you, melody and pardon my absentminded mistake there. :P


You're welcome. ^^
Glad, I could help you. XD Though it's Jonahs job, for it's still his sliders. XD I hope, he doesn't mind. ^^°
Lab Assistant
#611 Old 20th Feb 2010 at 6:25 PM
So this sounds dumb but which of the 4 do I actually download and install? I have the latest version of the game and world adventures and the stuff pack. Also I have delphy SimHeight and Niksim's feet slider.

RUN FOREST RUN!
Scholar
Original Poster
#612 Old 20th Feb 2010 at 7:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by melody2
You're welcome. ^^
Glad, I could help you. XD Though it's Jonahs job, for it's still his sliders. XD I hope, he doesn't mind. ^^°


No, thank you very much for explaining it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadWizardDM
So this sounds dumb but which of the 4 do I actually download and install? I have the latest version of the game and world adventures and the stuff pack. Also I have delphy SimHeight and Niksim's feet slider.


The latest version of world adventures is 2.5.12, so download the sliderhack with 2.5.12 in it's name (currently the last one, but that will change) and the first package which contains the sliders. If you already have awesomemod or the extended game core, download only the first package.
Test Subject
#613 Old 21st Feb 2010 at 2:22 AM
Hey Could you make a slider that will make the hight of the double chin (or Underneck) higher or lower PLZ, oh yea and i luv the slider too
Test Subject
#614 Old 21st Feb 2010 at 7:03 AM
bro, thanks for the sliders! i've had this sliders on my sims for a while now... anyway, i'm thinking of installing WA... could I just normally install the EP and play without affecting the sliders? or do i just move the necessary files from sims3/game/bin to WA's bin?
Scholar
Original Poster
#615 Old 21st Feb 2010 at 11:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall600
Hey Could you make a slider that will make the hight of the double chin (or Underneck) higher or lower PLZ


Hmm, can you explain this more (maybe with a picture)?

Quote:
Originally Posted by mark3289
bro, thanks for the sliders! i've had this sliders on my sims for a while now... anyway, i'm thinking of installing WA... could I just normally install the EP and play without affecting the sliders? or do i just move the necessary files from sims3/game/bin to WA's bin?


Some people report that they have to move the mods and the framework to the EP folder. If you are using the sliderhack, make sure, you copy the d9d dll file in the ep folder.

Apart from that, there should be no issues.
Test Subject
#616 Old 21st Feb 2010 at 1:14 PM
I'm happy you made this ^^
I'm still missing some things tough... Could you also come up with a lower-and upper arm slidder and a belly slider? Thanks in advance :3
Test Subject
#617 Old 21st Feb 2010 at 11:54 PM
Hey John, I have a little problem .. (or big ..)

I put the packages into the correct folder (yes, I had other mods core, had the required dll and resources.cfg ..)

I put the mods in the Adventures in the World, open the game, I begin my sims, I carry them (Loading..) all normal, until when I "test" the mod, create a new sim, I click the correct location (mouth / global) and slide all the sliders, and nothing happens even with the breasts, ass .. NOTHING! the sliding only change the mouth (as in original)

I've tested other sliders as posted by you on the Overview of breasts, and it worked normally, however, has no waist (butt) on it .. then wanted his mod in my game, working

has a solution for this?

if so, could give a quote response?


obs:

just to check, I put the single file.'s package. zip pra install Install Help with Monkey (the option to install sims 3) ..

that's all you have to do for work?
Test Subject
#618 Old 22nd Feb 2010 at 1:17 AM
I still love this mod, from it's testing stages to now and what I'm sure any future advances will hold. This is a large part of what makes this game playable for me, alongside Awesomemod.

I have suggestions for Sliders, if that's okay, I just noticed a few that if were able to be added, definitely should be as they're part of creating the realism we're striving for.

1.Double chin slider, as previously said, that part of your head between the tip of your chin and your neck that can either be really taught or sag, we had this option in Sims 2 to adjust this and I have NO IDEA why they took this out.
2.Changing the "width" of the thighs, so they'll be closer together without being huge on the sides. Not everyone who's thighs touch have tree trunks down there.
3.I noticed when we first got the chest slider, it moved the chest width wise and now it's more front and back girth, I really liked the width option because it helped create an hour glass shape. If we could incorporate those two together, I think that would work out nicely.
4.Stomach slider, so we can have "full" figured women without you know, for the lack of better words, a flat tire.


Anyways, those are just some suggestions I thought I'd throw out there, seems like everyone else is and I know it helps to know what people are looking for when you're making something for them (which we all REALLY appreciate).

Keep up the awesome work!
Scholar
Original Poster
#619 Old 22nd Feb 2010 at 6:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by linkpunisher
just to check, I put the single file.'s package. zip pra install Install Help with Monkey (the option to install sims 3) ..

that's all you have to do for work?


Install Monkey as far as I know wasn't updated for WA and may cause problems. Anyw, be sure to install the first download, "Jonha_Sliders", too. The SliderHack only allows you to install more sliders. You have to actually install them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by deaditegal
1.Double chin slider, as previously said, that part of your head between the tip of your chin and your neck that can either be really taught or sag, we had this option in Sims 2 to adjust this and I have NO IDEA why they took this out.
2.Changing the "width" of the thighs, so they'll be closer together without being huge on the sides. Not everyone who's thighs touch have tree trunks down there.
3.I noticed when we first got the chest slider, it moved the chest width wise and now it's more front and back girth, I really liked the width option because it helped create an hour glass shape. If we could incorporate those two together, I think that would work out nicely.
4.Stomach slider, so we can have "full" figured women without you know, for the lack of better words, a flat tire.


1. Might look into it, but don't know if it's possible
2. Sounds useful, but I don't know if it will work. "Touching thighs" may look more like clipping issues instead of realistic.
3. Try the Shoulder width slider, it doesn pretty much the same as th old chest slider. It only adjusts the shoulders, too, so ou get no strange clipping with a wide chest and normal shoulders. But of course I could also provide a seprate chest slider if ou want.
4. Well, stomach is a little difficult, because there is no "stomach bone" that would be adjustable. I could make the whole waist area smaller in front/back direction, unfornuately that will probably result in a "dent" at the back of the sim.
Test Subject
#620 Old 22nd Feb 2010 at 6:56 AM
I cant get the sliderhack to work! game starts up as normal until the loading screen when it crashes. i got WA and HE and pu the Direct x file in both folders but it still wont work, ive also tried all the different version for different updates but i doesnt work either . i got version 3.0
Test Subject
#621 Old 22nd Feb 2010 at 7:47 AM
I personally LOVE this modification, not only for extra curvy sims but I like to make skinnier ones as well (after all, we aren't all super babes) but I find the fact that there's no arm thickness slider/s a bit odd as when you MAKE super thin sim, thier arms look cartoonish and out of proportion with the rest of them.

Could we have arm thickness sliders please?
Scholar
Original Poster
#622 Old 22nd Feb 2010 at 4:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreaHooper
Could we have arm thickness sliders please?


Nope, as it states (I think so) on the overview page it's currently not possible for me to create one. Although I might try it again, I don't think it will work...
Test Subject
#623 Old 23rd Feb 2010 at 9:48 AM
Ok this mod works great but when i use the sliders they are in somekind of code. i cant tell which ones which.
Scholar
Original Poster
#624 Old 23rd Feb 2010 at 4:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelsmeltser
Ok this mod works great but when i use the sliders they are in somekind of code. i cant tell which ones which.


You forgot to install the BASE package or are using a very strange locale (which?).
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