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Featured upload! [UPDATE] 10 new CAS Sliders (Breast, Hip, Waist, Butt, Head and more)

by jonha Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 4:56 PM - Updated 5th Jan 2012 at 10:45 PM by jonha : Update
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This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.

It seems the Pets patch changed the way the sliders work in game somehow. While they still can be installed and used, there may be some unusual deformations on your sims. So please be aware of that. You may continue to use them if you can live with this, but otherwise please wait until I provide an update. Note that this will probably take some time as I need to reinstall and update the game, find out what things EA changed, maybe adjust the necessary modding tools and finally adjust the sliders to the new behavior (if possible). Seems to be a lot of work? It is. And I don't have much time currently, so please be patient.



As I posted here, I started working on Body Sliders for Sims 3. A beta-version was uploaded in this thread.

Included are:
  • Breast (female teen-elder)
  • Waist (all ages and genders)
  • Hip Size (all ages and genders)
  • Butt (both genders, teen-elder)
  • Head Size (all ages and genders)
  • Shoulder Width (all ages and genders, was experimental before)
  • Neck (all ages and genders)
  • Chest (all ages and genders)
  • Leg width (all ages and genders)
  • Calf (all ages and genders)
The head size slider and the neck slider will appear in the head region, the other sliders will appear in the mouth region until someone manages to create a new region in CAS.

These sliders are genetical and will be always visible. For example, if you use the breast slider on males, there will be no visible changes, but you can influence, what genes they may forward to their children.

These sliders use quite realistic ranges that work well on all fit/fatness states and all clothing. If you require more extreme sims, you can use a slider multiplier hack, as included with Awesomemod or NRaas Master Controller, but look at the issues below.

Known issues:
  • The basic female t-shirt (the first in the list) has some strange bone assignments. I tweaked the breast slider, so it should look okay in most cases, but it may look bad on very thin and very muscular sims with very large breasts. If you want to be sure, install GnatGoSplat's T-Shirt Replacement Meshes fix (highly recommended). This is not needed since LN as EA fixed their meshes.
  • When using a slider hack that increases the slider range, you will notice, that with the waist slider, the upper body and head will shrink on extreme settings, and with the hip and butt slider, legs and feet will shrink. Also, the hands may begin to shake. This is by design and can't be fixed unless you redo/create bone assignments for every mesh. This effect is unnoticeable in the default slider range.
  • The arm position is changed by the waist slider and the hands may intersect with the hip on extreme settings.
  • The sliders aren't affected (or are reset) by the randomize function. (this behavior changed with LN, now the sliders get random values as every other slider)
  • The adult breast slider is rather pointy and unrealistic, but probably still better than the LN slider. I'm working on it.

Slider limits:
The game has a hardcoded limit of 20 sliders per section. This unfornuately means, that you can't install unlimited sliders. As the game already has a lot of sliders, there are only very few free slots:
  • Head & Ears: 2
  • Eyes: 3
  • Nose: 3
  • Mouth: 7
As 2 of my sliders go into the head section and 8 of my sliders go into the mouth section, you can't install all my sliders at the same time without hacks. In this case I suggest installing everything but the calf slider. Also, you have to be careful if you have other sliders installed because they need slots, too.

You can install for example Twallans Master Controller and Master Controller Integration, this Slider Hack, Awesomemod, or any other mod that increases or removes the limit. But all these mods only work for specific game versions (this means if you update the game you will need to update them too, or you will get startup crashes or other issues) and they may conflict with other core mods (Twallans mods don't conflict, because they are no core mod).

If the game is crashing at startup after installing a core mod, or you are getting messages about incompatible mods, you probably
  • use mismatching game/mod versions
  • use multiple core mods at the same time
  • don't have the d3dx9_31.dll in game\bin (only necessary when your mod is not in your my documents directory)

Installation:
You have to install the package labeled BASE in any case, as it contains all the texts for the user interface. Apart from that you can choose freely, what sliders you wish to install, if you make sure, you don't exceed the slider limit.

Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Updating:
If you previously used my 5 (or 6) sliders, just download the new ones and overwrite the old files. Sims will retain their body shape (with the exception of very small tuning changes).



FAQ:
Problem: My game crashes after installing this mod!
Answer: Make sure your slider hack and and your game version are compatible and you don't have old hacks installed. The sliders themselves should not be able crash the game.

Problem: My lip/jaw (or whatever) slider stopped working!
Answer: You are exceeding the slider limit of 20 sliders per section. Please install some mod to remove/increase the slider limit. Or uninstall sliders to stay under the limit.

Problem: It doesn't work!
Answer: Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Problem: It still doesn't work!
Answer: They work. Either you put the packages to the wrong location, or your framework is not properly installed. Maybe try Delphy's Framework tool. Maybe try installing another mod so you can be sure if it's my sliders or a general framework problem.

Problem: I can't find them! / Where do they appear ingame?
Answer: Don't look where the fatness slider is. They are actually facial sliders so they are in Head->General and Mouth->General. See the rightmost screenshot. Try to scroll down.

Problem: I'm too stupid/young/foreign/lazy to understand the install instructions! I still have issues!
Answer: I'm sorry, but I won't explain everything again and I can't tell you more as I already wrote here. If you have a specific question or problem you can ask me, but I won't reply to posts like "I can't get it to work!" or "I don't understand the instructions!". I got several messages from people who had problems, and I just told them to read and follow the descriptions again and then it worked for most of them. So just read and try it again (and then maybe again) and if it still doesn't work and you have some usable problem description, you can pm me or leave a comment. Please note that this download has a lot of comments and I can't reply to all. If you think you have an important topic (and not some random "I can't get it to work"-post where you tried it only one time) and I forgot you, please write a pm which I tend to check more often. But trying to add a comment first is probably a good idea, because other people might be able to help you, too.

Question: Can you make a arm/bodybuilder/eye/height/belly/whatever slider?
Answer: Sorry, I don't have plans to create additional sliders at the moment. There are already a lot of sliders from different people.

Question: Does it work together with Awesomemod or another core mod?
Answer: Yes. If the core mod itself removes the slider limit (as Awesomemod does), everything is fine, else you have to make sure you don't install too many sliders.

Question: Where can I find other sliders?
Answer:(List is incomplete, just google)

Question: Can I use them together?
Answer: Of course. Just make sure, to either stay under the 20 slider limit or otherwise install a core mod that removes the limit (recommended).

Compatibility:
The sliders work with all currently known game versions (tested up to version 1.29) and should work with all future versions, unless EA does big changes to the slider system. In game versions after 1.24 there may be minor deformation issues as explained at the top of the page. They work on PC and Mac. Some people have reported that they work even with The Sims Medieval, but I don't have this game so I can not give you install instructions or support for this.

The possibility of a conflict with other mods is nearly nonexistent as a conflicting mod would need to use the same instance IDs. Therefore a conflict can only happen, if someone wants to produce a conflict, or if someone does a really bad job at cloning my sliders and publishes his/her sliders with the same IDs.

Additional Credits:
I want to thank Delphy for his Small Editors and everyone else, wo did research and wrote tools, that helped me creating this (s3pi, s3pe, MilkShape exporters/importers, Blender, Wolfram Alpha, Gimp, and many more).

Thanks to everyone, who tested this and sent me feedback or translations.

Tags: #breast, #size, #waist, #hip, #butt, #buttock, #slider, #head, #cas, #body

Type:

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3
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Jonha_Sliders.zip | --> Install this if you want the sliders. It should work with every game version. Please install the BASE package inside this zip, too.

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Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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Test Subject
#651 Old 3rd Mar 2010 at 11:54 PM
First, thank you for sharing your talent and creations with us. Second, a question...Now that I have the sliders in my game, when I upload a Sim I've created to a site without actually using your sliders for that particular Sim, will your sliders be included with the sim? I don't want to inadvertantly offend you by accidently posting your handiwork on another site. I am registered with several.
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#652 Old 4th Mar 2010 at 2:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Babsie14
Now that I have the sliders in my game, when I upload a Sim I've created to a site without actually using your sliders for that particular Sim, will your sliders be included with the sim?


No, the sliders will not be included with the sim in any case.

If you install a "slidered" sim without having the sliders installes, the sim will "snap back" to the default body shape regarding these sliders.

But I don't mind, if you package my sliders with your sims as long as you credit me and link to this download.
Test Subject
#653 Old 4th Mar 2010 at 3:10 PM
Hmm... did this slider "kill" the lower lip shape slider? I think it did o.O
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#654 Old 4th Mar 2010 at 6:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by athem2310
Hmm... did this slider "kill" the lower lip shape slider? I think it did o.O


Read the faq on the front page. (topic: "my lip slider stopped working")
Test Subject
#655 Old 5th Mar 2010 at 4:22 PM
I saw that a couple of people have expressed a desire for a stomach slider. I understand that the lack of a "bone" for that area is a problem, but I wanted to add myself to the list of those interested. You know, just in case a 3 person throng might motivate you to overcome adversity to great effect.

But this mod is fantastic as it is. Thank you.
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#656 Old 5th Mar 2010 at 9:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by earthboyjacobus
I saw that a couple of people have expressed a desire for a stomach slider. I understand that the lack of a "bone" for that area is a problem, but I wanted to add myself to the list of those interested.


I understand that people want one, but as I said, we lack a stomach "bone" and even if a million people would want one, I couldn't do anything about it. You would need create a spearate morph for every mesh (or adjust the existing fat morph) and that's way beyond my scope.

But I'm working on some other nice sliders, that you may like. For example adjusting the ear position and a better sim height slider.
Test Subject
#657 Old 6th Mar 2010 at 3:40 PM
hi i love this Mod work well in my game and my sims look better. I do have a question or possible interference from another mod. I have been trying to work inteen into my game, and for some reason i cannot get it to run with the game. Not saying your mod is conflicting just wondering if anyone has inteen working with this mod and could help. I have this mod and required components, and the uncensored blur removal patch, thats all so trying to figure out why my game locks up on loading when i try and put this mod and inteen together. thanks again for this great mod if inteen dont work at least this one does
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#658 Old 6th Mar 2010 at 7:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by drgntat77
I do have a question or possible interference from another mod. I have been trying to work inteen into my game, and for some reason i cannot get it to run with the game.


My sliderhack is incompatible with other core mods, so it is incompatible with Inteen. The sliders alone should work fine. You can also use Delphy's Dashboard tool to check for conflicts.
Test Subject
#659 Old 6th Mar 2010 at 8:01 PM
WOW. now all my fmale sims wont be flat chested (now i can sleep at night knowing that a virtual person can look at someone elses chest from the side a go 'nice rack')
Test Subject
#660 Old 7th Mar 2010 at 2:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonha
My sliderhack is incompatible with other core mods, so it is incompatible with Inteen. The sliders alone should work fine. You can also use Delphy's Dashboard tool to check for conflicts.



Ok thanks for the info, i didnt know if it was user error or what causing the conflict i figured they were conflicting i'll stick with your mod though i know it works fine. havnt been able to run inteen at all. 2 thumbs up on this mod
Test Subject
#661 Old 7th Mar 2010 at 3:35 AM Last edited by Argus : 7th Mar 2010 at 3:47 AM.
First of all, I'd like to say thank you a lot of times!
You're great!

but, I'd like to ask if the slider increaser has some problemems with High-end Loft Stuff.
I tried all of the links of the different increasers you posted at the previous pages except the awesome mode, but the only one that doesn't crash before the loading screen, freezes it at the end of the loading.
When the Loading screen finishes loading, it freezes with the full bar, and doesn't pass to the savegame screen, understand?
Can you help me with this?

PS: I've installed the d3dx9 file and I don't have any core mod installed

thanks again!^^

Há pessoas que lutam uma vez e são boas.
Há pessoas que lutam muitas vezes e são grandes.
Há pessoas que lutam muitos anos e são heróis.
Mas há pessoas que lutam a vida toda... e essas... Ah, essas são imprescindíveis.
Test Subject
#662 Old 7th Mar 2010 at 5:21 AM
hi!

I found a new way to get bigger tits. All you do is play with the fat slider, but make sure not to have any STRENGTH!!!

b[B]b
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#663 Old 7th Mar 2010 at 9:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonha
The slider hack works with HELS and WA. maybe you forgot to put the d3dx9_31.dll in your HELS game\bin directory, too.



That is exactly what was wrong. Fixing that fixed the problem.

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Test Subject
#664 Old 7th Mar 2010 at 12:21 PM
I have no Program Files (86) folder. And I can't copy the d3dx9_31.dll file into anything, I can't open it. I've tried everything. And it still doesn't work. I finally got it installed after trying for 3 hours. But I'm completely out of ideas for this.
Test Subject
#665 Old 7th Mar 2010 at 12:27 PM
Ok, well they suddenly started working lol. Thanks :]
Test Subject
#666 Old 7th Mar 2010 at 2:59 PM
I finally tried the awesome mod, and they finally started to work well!
All the slider are running properly and their limit increased to 60!
I installed the bigger one, so I Won't have any problem with this so soon!

Thanks for the sliders again!^^

Há pessoas que lutam uma vez e são boas.
Há pessoas que lutam muitas vezes e são grandes.
Há pessoas que lutam muitos anos e são heróis.
Mas há pessoas que lutam a vida toda... e essas... Ah, essas são imprescindíveis.
Test Subject
#667 Old 8th Mar 2010 at 12:25 AM Last edited by nikki99c : 8th Mar 2010 at 12:35 AM.
When I try to go into CAS or into one of my saved games , the game shuts down. Does anyone else have this problem?
Please help me. Thanks.
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#668 Old 8th Mar 2010 at 5:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikki99c
When I try to go into CAS or into one of my saved games , the game shuts down. Does anyone else have this problem?
Please help me. Thanks.


Never heard this. Are you sure it's because of my mod?
Test Subject
#669 Old 8th Mar 2010 at 5:37 PM
hi I got problem If anyone know what shall I do with that UIMOD.package ?
It's for the increase slider limit -_-" but I don't know where to put this
Test Subject
#670 Old 8th Mar 2010 at 9:13 PM
I know I'm going to appear foolish , but I just started using the mods for the sims 3. I have the no mosaic and all the mods that make the sims look more like humans than barbie dolls. I'm undecided on messing with the awesomemod (although, I know eventually I'll probably will). I downloading the sliders and they work great, really, just groovy , but now the mosaics are back. Please help. I'd like to see the great ass I gave my male sim
Test Subject
#671 Old 8th Mar 2010 at 11:59 PM Last edited by dietdrpepperfan : 9th Mar 2010 at 12:14 AM.
I cannot download the d3dx9_31.dll file, when I do it says I do not have the correct requirements?It tells me to set associations in the control panel. This only happens when I just try to open the file. I have also been told that I needed this for another mod. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Nevermind! I figured it out.
Test Subject
#672 Old 9th Mar 2010 at 1:02 AM
This is the reason I can play Sims 3 again! Thank you!!!!!
Test Subject
#673 Old 9th Mar 2010 at 7:16 AM
Mod looks like a lot of fun but I can't seem to get it to work. I have high end loft stuff and have updated it to the 3.1.7, replaced the dll file with the modified version, and installed the [Jonha_SliderHack_1.10.6-2.5.12-3.1.7.zip] and [Jonha_Sliders.zip]. But there are no sliders in character creation. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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#674 Old 9th Mar 2010 at 4:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milfe
hi I got problem If anyone know what shall I do with that UIMOD.package ?
It's for the increase slider limit -_-" but I don't know where to put this


Please ask the one who made the uimod.package. I suggest putting it there where you put the other .package files

Quote:
but now the mosaics are back. Please help. I'd like to see the great ass I gave my male sim


My mod is compatible with the nomosaic mod. Make sure you didn't accidently deleted the nomosaic file and maybe try delphy's dashboard tool to see if everything is correctly installed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pentacube
Mod looks like a lot of fun but I can't seem to get it to work. I have high end loft stuff and have updated it to the 3.1.7, replaced the dll file with the modified version, and installed the [Jonha_SliderHack_1.10.6-2.5.12-3.1.7.zip] and [Jonha_Sliders.zip]. But there are no sliders in character creation. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Have you read the faq on the front page? (Topic: I can't find the sliders! or something like that)
Are other mods working?
Have you tried scolling down?
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