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Featured upload! [UPDATE] 10 new CAS Sliders (Breast, Hip, Waist, Butt, Head and more)

by jonha Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 5:56 PM - Updated 5th Jan 2012 at 11:45 PM by jonha : Update
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This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.

It seems the Pets patch changed the way the sliders work in game somehow. While they still can be installed and used, there may be some unusual deformations on your sims. So please be aware of that. You may continue to use them if you can live with this, but otherwise please wait until I provide an update. Note that this will probably take some time as I need to reinstall and update the game, find out what things EA changed, maybe adjust the necessary modding tools and finally adjust the sliders to the new behavior (if possible). Seems to be a lot of work? It is. And I don't have much time currently, so please be patient.



As I posted here, I started working on Body Sliders for Sims 3. A beta-version was uploaded in this thread.

Included are:
  • Breast (female teen-elder)
  • Waist (all ages and genders)
  • Hip Size (all ages and genders)
  • Butt (both genders, teen-elder)
  • Head Size (all ages and genders)
  • Shoulder Width (all ages and genders, was experimental before)
  • Neck (all ages and genders)
  • Chest (all ages and genders)
  • Leg width (all ages and genders)
  • Calf (all ages and genders)
The head size slider and the neck slider will appear in the head region, the other sliders will appear in the mouth region until someone manages to create a new region in CAS.

These sliders are genetical and will be always visible. For example, if you use the breast slider on males, there will be no visible changes, but you can influence, what genes they may forward to their children.

These sliders use quite realistic ranges that work well on all fit/fatness states and all clothing. If you require more extreme sims, you can use a slider multiplier hack, as included with Awesomemod or NRaas Master Controller, but look at the issues below.

Known issues:
  • The basic female t-shirt (the first in the list) has some strange bone assignments. I tweaked the breast slider, so it should look okay in most cases, but it may look bad on very thin and very muscular sims with very large breasts. If you want to be sure, install GnatGoSplat's T-Shirt Replacement Meshes fix (highly recommended). This is not needed since LN as EA fixed their meshes.
  • When using a slider hack that increases the slider range, you will notice, that with the waist slider, the upper body and head will shrink on extreme settings, and with the hip and butt slider, legs and feet will shrink. Also, the hands may begin to shake. This is by design and can't be fixed unless you redo/create bone assignments for every mesh. This effect is unnoticeable in the default slider range.
  • The arm position is changed by the waist slider and the hands may intersect with the hip on extreme settings.
  • The sliders aren't affected (or are reset) by the randomize function. (this behavior changed with LN, now the sliders get random values as every other slider)
  • The adult breast slider is rather pointy and unrealistic, but probably still better than the LN slider. I'm working on it.

Slider limits:
The game has a hardcoded limit of 20 sliders per section. This unfornuately means, that you can't install unlimited sliders. As the game already has a lot of sliders, there are only very few free slots:
  • Head & Ears: 2
  • Eyes: 3
  • Nose: 3
  • Mouth: 7
As 2 of my sliders go into the head section and 8 of my sliders go into the mouth section, you can't install all my sliders at the same time without hacks. In this case I suggest installing everything but the calf slider. Also, you have to be careful if you have other sliders installed because they need slots, too.

You can install for example Twallans Master Controller and Master Controller Integration, this Slider Hack, Awesomemod, or any other mod that increases or removes the limit. But all these mods only work for specific game versions (this means if you update the game you will need to update them too, or you will get startup crashes or other issues) and they may conflict with other core mods (Twallans mods don't conflict, because they are no core mod).

If the game is crashing at startup after installing a core mod, or you are getting messages about incompatible mods, you probably
  • use mismatching game/mod versions
  • use multiple core mods at the same time
  • don't have the d3dx9_31.dll in game\bin (only necessary when your mod is not in your my documents directory)

Installation:
You have to install the package labeled BASE in any case, as it contains all the texts for the user interface. Apart from that you can choose freely, what sliders you wish to install, if you make sure, you don't exceed the slider limit.

Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Updating:
If you previously used my 5 (or 6) sliders, just download the new ones and overwrite the old files. Sims will retain their body shape (with the exception of very small tuning changes).



FAQ:
Problem: My game crashes after installing this mod!
Answer: Make sure your slider hack and and your game version are compatible and you don't have old hacks installed. The sliders themselves should not be able crash the game.

Problem: My lip/jaw (or whatever) slider stopped working!
Answer: You are exceeding the slider limit of 20 sliders per section. Please install some mod to remove/increase the slider limit. Or uninstall sliders to stay under the limit.

Problem: It doesn't work!
Answer: Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Problem: It still doesn't work!
Answer: They work. Either you put the packages to the wrong location, or your framework is not properly installed. Maybe try Delphy's Framework tool. Maybe try installing another mod so you can be sure if it's my sliders or a general framework problem.

Problem: I can't find them! / Where do they appear ingame?
Answer: Don't look where the fatness slider is. They are actually facial sliders so they are in Head->General and Mouth->General. See the rightmost screenshot. Try to scroll down.

Problem: I'm too stupid/young/foreign/lazy to understand the install instructions! I still have issues!
Answer: I'm sorry, but I won't explain everything again and I can't tell you more as I already wrote here. If you have a specific question or problem you can ask me, but I won't reply to posts like "I can't get it to work!" or "I don't understand the instructions!". I got several messages from people who had problems, and I just told them to read and follow the descriptions again and then it worked for most of them. So just read and try it again (and then maybe again) and if it still doesn't work and you have some usable problem description, you can pm me or leave a comment. Please note that this download has a lot of comments and I can't reply to all. If you think you have an important topic (and not some random "I can't get it to work"-post where you tried it only one time) and I forgot you, please write a pm which I tend to check more often. But trying to add a comment first is probably a good idea, because other people might be able to help you, too.

Question: Can you make a arm/bodybuilder/eye/height/belly/whatever slider?
Answer: Sorry, I don't have plans to create additional sliders at the moment. There are already a lot of sliders from different people.

Question: Does it work together with Awesomemod or another core mod?
Answer: Yes. If the core mod itself removes the slider limit (as Awesomemod does), everything is fine, else you have to make sure you don't install too many sliders.

Question: Where can I find other sliders?
Answer:(List is incomplete, just google)

Question: Can I use them together?
Answer: Of course. Just make sure, to either stay under the 20 slider limit or otherwise install a core mod that removes the limit (recommended).

Compatibility:
The sliders work with all currently known game versions (tested up to version 1.29) and should work with all future versions, unless EA does big changes to the slider system. In game versions after 1.24 there may be minor deformation issues as explained at the top of the page. They work on PC and Mac. Some people have reported that they work even with The Sims Medieval, but I don't have this game so I can not give you install instructions or support for this.

The possibility of a conflict with other mods is nearly nonexistent as a conflicting mod would need to use the same instance IDs. Therefore a conflict can only happen, if someone wants to produce a conflict, or if someone does a really bad job at cloning my sliders and publishes his/her sliders with the same IDs.

Additional Credits:
I want to thank Delphy for his Small Editors and everyone else, wo did research and wrote tools, that helped me creating this (s3pi, s3pe, MilkShape exporters/importers, Blender, Wolfram Alpha, Gimp, and many more).

Thanks to everyone, who tested this and sent me feedback or translations.

Tags: #breast, #size, #waist, #hip, #butt, #buttock, #slider, #head, #cas, #body

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You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

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Jonha_Sliders.zip | --> Install this if you want the sliders. It should work with every game version. Please install the BASE package inside this zip, too.

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Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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Scholar
Original Poster
#526 Old 7th Feb 2010 at 10:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rocknRev4Christ
My question is: How do I get your thigh size slider to show up?


There is no thigh size slider. Only a slider for the whole leg.
Test Subject
#527 Old 7th Feb 2010 at 10:31 PM
Hi!
I tryed to use this mod but it wont work. :S
Forgive me if im being stupid... Never used a Sims 3 mod before... Only Sims 2...
I have the base Sims 3 game (without the ex pack).

I intalled everythink into the right folders but my game keeps crashing/closing down after the start-up movie finishes.

I read your FAQ's and it dosent help since you suggest that the d3dx9_31.dll file is missing but its not for me... I cant unstand what is wrong.

Thank you.

-Sieg
Test Subject
#528 Old 7th Feb 2010 at 10:34 PM
Jonha you are amazing! Thank you so much for updating the slider hack so quickly!!!
Test Subject
#529 Old 8th Feb 2010 at 12:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sieg2k10
Hi!
I tryed to use this mod but it wont work. :S
Forgive me if im being stupid... Never used a Sims 3 mod before... Only Sims 2...
I have the base Sims 3 game (without the ex pack).

I intalled everythink into the right folders but my game keeps crashing/closing down after the start-up movie finishes.

I read your FAQ's and it dosent help since you suggest that the d3dx9_31.dll file is missing but its not for me... I cant unstand what is wrong.

Thank you.

-Sieg


I got it working!
Thanks for the mod! <3

-Sieg
Test Subject
#530 Old 8th Feb 2010 at 12:46 AM
I enjoy your sliders, they are very handy when creating sims. Although I'm having a bit of a difficulty you could possibly help me with. I installed your SliderHack correctly, since I have been dealing with packages for quite some time now. I also download Delphy's breast sliders and some ear sliders. Therefore, I removed your breast slider from my game as well as the head slider. I didn't take much interest in those two. Yet still I cannot modify the lips on sims. Possibly I put the SliderHack in the wrong spot? Is it supposed to go in the WA folder? Since I know some creations reaquire that. Please help me understand further. Thank you for the great sliders though! :D
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Scholar
Original Poster
#531 Old 8th Feb 2010 at 6:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxcaybaybayxx
Possibly I put the SliderHack in the wrong spot? Is it supposed to go in the WA folder?


If you have WA you should try to put it into the WA folder, yes. Another reason why it may not work is that you have another core mod installed.
Test Subject
#532 Old 9th Feb 2010 at 2:14 AM
Thanks so much! Works PERFECT with High End Loft Stuff.
Test Subject
#533 Old 9th Feb 2010 at 2:21 AM
To carry it to the teen just make the adjustment on young adult/adult then go to teen. Thanks btw, best mod ever in the history of mods, I'm not even joking.
Forum Resident
#534 Old 9th Feb 2010 at 3:12 AM
I'm so happy, jonha!! It works perfectly with the new mini pack!!!
Test Subject
#535 Old 9th Feb 2010 at 6:08 AM
Great Job!
Test Subject
#536 Old 9th Feb 2010 at 6:12 AM
hey guys... I've got the latest update the 2.4.7 or whatevers... and the sliders are crashing the game. Any ideas on how to get it to work with the sliders or am I just doomed to have ugly sims?
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Original Poster
#537 Old 9th Feb 2010 at 6:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PyxieStyxie
hey guys... I've got the latest update the 2.4.7 or whatevers... and the sliders are crashing the game. Any ideas on how to get it to work with the sliders or am I just doomed to have ugly sims?


There is a new SliderHack for 2.4.7. Uninstall the old and install the new one on the downloads page. You will have to do this for every game update as it is a core mod.
Lab Assistant
#538 Old 9th Feb 2010 at 1:44 PM
Hey guys and girls. XD
Well, I updatet my game to version 1.9 now. And suddenly it works fine. ôo No crashes. YAY! XD
BUT... Somehow I can't save my games now. Well, I can save them, but they don't show up, when I restart Sims 3.
Same with my old saved games. Saved sims and custom content works fine. But every time I save a game, after I close Sims 3, and start it again, my saved games don't show up.
They are in the saves folder, so they obviously do exist. But why don't they show up in the game? ôo

The sliders still work, and Drakahs CoreMod 1.8 also works with version 1.9. Everything would be really perfect, if only my saved games wouldn't disappear after every restart. <.<
Lab Assistant
#539 Old 9th Feb 2010 at 2:51 PM
Okay, I found a solution.
You just have to move the riverview file (not just copy it) from Documents\EA\Sims 3\Installed Worlds to Program Files\EA\Sims 3\Game Data\Shared\Non Packaged\Worlds, and delete it in the Installed Worlds folder in Documents.
So, everything is working fine now, even with the update. XD
Now I can finally enjoy my game. x33
Test Subject
#540 Old 9th Feb 2010 at 11:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonha
If you have WA you should try to put it into the WA folder, yes. Another reason why it may not work is that you have another core mod installed.


oh thank you ! that helps me understand more i put it before in Sims 3/mods/packages. And my game kept crashing for some reason. I knew I must have been doing something wrong. I'll definately try this and cross my fingers my game will work !
Test Subject
#541 Old 10th Feb 2010 at 12:23 AM
starting to get annoyed with sims updating it's self so much...

Anyway, i've had an issue with these server and the new patch 2.5. It makes it so only these sliders work, no others work. including Muscle and Weight on first tab.
Lab Assistant
#542 Old 10th Feb 2010 at 5:03 AM
New patches out for basegame/WA. (1.10/2.5) Haven't checked compatibility with old slider mod yet.
Test Subject
#543 Old 10th Feb 2010 at 3:14 PM
does anyone know if they do work for the new update? because in 1.10 they aren't displayed. :-(
hope somebody can help me
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Original Poster
#544 Old 10th Feb 2010 at 5:59 PM Last edited by jonha : 10th Feb 2010 at 11:07 PM. Reason: typo
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeromycraig
New patches out for basegame/WA. (1.10/2.5) Haven't checked compatibility with old slider mod yet.


Do not use it with the wrong version. Even if it doesn't crash at at startup (which is very unlikely) it will almost for sure result in general game instability and other issues.

As with the last patch, you will probably need to wait for the weekend for an updated version. Or maybe tomorrow.

If you really need this mod I would suggest waiting before updating. The issues fixed in the last 2 patches don't look very major.
Test Subject
#545 Old 10th Feb 2010 at 10:34 PM
Hey there, could you please update for new patch, mine's crashing?

Thanks
Test Subject
#546 Old 11th Feb 2010 at 2:26 AM Last edited by xxcaybaybayxx : 12th Feb 2010 at 10:18 PM.
never mind xD I figured it out.
Test Subject
#547 Old 11th Feb 2010 at 4:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonha
Do not use it with the wrong version. Even if it doesn't crash at at startup (which is very unlikely) it will almost for sure result in general game instability and other issues.

As with the last patch, you will probably need to wait for the weekend for an updated version. Or maybe tomorrow.

If you really need this mod I would suggest waiting before updating. The issues fixed in the last 2 patches don't look very major.


Hey!

Well, I'm a little wary of downloading this at the moment because I don't want it to crash my game. I've updated up to 1.10. Will I be able to use this?

Thanks!

PS: Great work!
Test Subject
#548 Old 11th Feb 2010 at 6:08 AM
im wondering why i cant use any version that you uploaded. so first, i tried the 1.8.25-2.3.33 version, and the game shuts down after the opening the sims 3 movie, and same thing happened when i replaced the 1.8.25-2.3.33 version with the 1.9.22-2.4.7-3.0 version.

i've also got the d3dx9_31.dll in my game directory already. i've just installed the sims 3 on my computer, and there's absolutely no other mods in the packages folder. i dont know what to do please help me by the way, my sims 3 game version is 1.0.615.00107

thanks before
Test Subject
#549 Old 11th Feb 2010 at 7:01 AM
I downloaded this and followed the instructions, I don't know what's wrong but it's not working, not even showing up.
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