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Featured upload! [UPDATE] 10 new CAS Sliders (Breast, Hip, Waist, Butt, Head and more)

by jonha Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 5:56 PM - Updated 5th Jan 2012 at 11:45 PM by jonha : Update
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This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.

It seems the Pets patch changed the way the sliders work in game somehow. While they still can be installed and used, there may be some unusual deformations on your sims. So please be aware of that. You may continue to use them if you can live with this, but otherwise please wait until I provide an update. Note that this will probably take some time as I need to reinstall and update the game, find out what things EA changed, maybe adjust the necessary modding tools and finally adjust the sliders to the new behavior (if possible). Seems to be a lot of work? It is. And I don't have much time currently, so please be patient.



As I posted here, I started working on Body Sliders for Sims 3. A beta-version was uploaded in this thread.

Included are:
  • Breast (female teen-elder)
  • Waist (all ages and genders)
  • Hip Size (all ages and genders)
  • Butt (both genders, teen-elder)
  • Head Size (all ages and genders)
  • Shoulder Width (all ages and genders, was experimental before)
  • Neck (all ages and genders)
  • Chest (all ages and genders)
  • Leg width (all ages and genders)
  • Calf (all ages and genders)
The head size slider and the neck slider will appear in the head region, the other sliders will appear in the mouth region until someone manages to create a new region in CAS.

These sliders are genetical and will be always visible. For example, if you use the breast slider on males, there will be no visible changes, but you can influence, what genes they may forward to their children.

These sliders use quite realistic ranges that work well on all fit/fatness states and all clothing. If you require more extreme sims, you can use a slider multiplier hack, as included with Awesomemod or NRaas Master Controller, but look at the issues below.

Known issues:
  • The basic female t-shirt (the first in the list) has some strange bone assignments. I tweaked the breast slider, so it should look okay in most cases, but it may look bad on very thin and very muscular sims with very large breasts. If you want to be sure, install GnatGoSplat's T-Shirt Replacement Meshes fix (highly recommended). This is not needed since LN as EA fixed their meshes.
  • When using a slider hack that increases the slider range, you will notice, that with the waist slider, the upper body and head will shrink on extreme settings, and with the hip and butt slider, legs and feet will shrink. Also, the hands may begin to shake. This is by design and can't be fixed unless you redo/create bone assignments for every mesh. This effect is unnoticeable in the default slider range.
  • The arm position is changed by the waist slider and the hands may intersect with the hip on extreme settings.
  • The sliders aren't affected (or are reset) by the randomize function. (this behavior changed with LN, now the sliders get random values as every other slider)
  • The adult breast slider is rather pointy and unrealistic, but probably still better than the LN slider. I'm working on it.

Slider limits:
The game has a hardcoded limit of 20 sliders per section. This unfornuately means, that you can't install unlimited sliders. As the game already has a lot of sliders, there are only very few free slots:
  • Head & Ears: 2
  • Eyes: 3
  • Nose: 3
  • Mouth: 7
As 2 of my sliders go into the head section and 8 of my sliders go into the mouth section, you can't install all my sliders at the same time without hacks. In this case I suggest installing everything but the calf slider. Also, you have to be careful if you have other sliders installed because they need slots, too.

You can install for example Twallans Master Controller and Master Controller Integration, this Slider Hack, Awesomemod, or any other mod that increases or removes the limit. But all these mods only work for specific game versions (this means if you update the game you will need to update them too, or you will get startup crashes or other issues) and they may conflict with other core mods (Twallans mods don't conflict, because they are no core mod).

If the game is crashing at startup after installing a core mod, or you are getting messages about incompatible mods, you probably
  • use mismatching game/mod versions
  • use multiple core mods at the same time
  • don't have the d3dx9_31.dll in game\bin (only necessary when your mod is not in your my documents directory)

Installation:
You have to install the package labeled BASE in any case, as it contains all the texts for the user interface. Apart from that you can choose freely, what sliders you wish to install, if you make sure, you don't exceed the slider limit.

Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Updating:
If you previously used my 5 (or 6) sliders, just download the new ones and overwrite the old files. Sims will retain their body shape (with the exception of very small tuning changes).



FAQ:
Problem: My game crashes after installing this mod!
Answer: Make sure your slider hack and and your game version are compatible and you don't have old hacks installed. The sliders themselves should not be able crash the game.

Problem: My lip/jaw (or whatever) slider stopped working!
Answer: You are exceeding the slider limit of 20 sliders per section. Please install some mod to remove/increase the slider limit. Or uninstall sliders to stay under the limit.

Problem: It doesn't work!
Answer: Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Problem: It still doesn't work!
Answer: They work. Either you put the packages to the wrong location, or your framework is not properly installed. Maybe try Delphy's Framework tool. Maybe try installing another mod so you can be sure if it's my sliders or a general framework problem.

Problem: I can't find them! / Where do they appear ingame?
Answer: Don't look where the fatness slider is. They are actually facial sliders so they are in Head->General and Mouth->General. See the rightmost screenshot. Try to scroll down.

Problem: I'm too stupid/young/foreign/lazy to understand the install instructions! I still have issues!
Answer: I'm sorry, but I won't explain everything again and I can't tell you more as I already wrote here. If you have a specific question or problem you can ask me, but I won't reply to posts like "I can't get it to work!" or "I don't understand the instructions!". I got several messages from people who had problems, and I just told them to read and follow the descriptions again and then it worked for most of them. So just read and try it again (and then maybe again) and if it still doesn't work and you have some usable problem description, you can pm me or leave a comment. Please note that this download has a lot of comments and I can't reply to all. If you think you have an important topic (and not some random "I can't get it to work"-post where you tried it only one time) and I forgot you, please write a pm which I tend to check more often. But trying to add a comment first is probably a good idea, because other people might be able to help you, too.

Question: Can you make a arm/bodybuilder/eye/height/belly/whatever slider?
Answer: Sorry, I don't have plans to create additional sliders at the moment. There are already a lot of sliders from different people.

Question: Does it work together with Awesomemod or another core mod?
Answer: Yes. If the core mod itself removes the slider limit (as Awesomemod does), everything is fine, else you have to make sure you don't install too many sliders.

Question: Where can I find other sliders?
Answer:(List is incomplete, just google)

Question: Can I use them together?
Answer: Of course. Just make sure, to either stay under the 20 slider limit or otherwise install a core mod that removes the limit (recommended).

Compatibility:
The sliders work with all currently known game versions (tested up to version 1.29) and should work with all future versions, unless EA does big changes to the slider system. In game versions after 1.24 there may be minor deformation issues as explained at the top of the page. They work on PC and Mac. Some people have reported that they work even with The Sims Medieval, but I don't have this game so I can not give you install instructions or support for this.

The possibility of a conflict with other mods is nearly nonexistent as a conflicting mod would need to use the same instance IDs. Therefore a conflict can only happen, if someone wants to produce a conflict, or if someone does a really bad job at cloning my sliders and publishes his/her sliders with the same IDs.

Additional Credits:
I want to thank Delphy for his Small Editors and everyone else, wo did research and wrote tools, that helped me creating this (s3pi, s3pe, MilkShape exporters/importers, Blender, Wolfram Alpha, Gimp, and many more).

Thanks to everyone, who tested this and sent me feedback or translations.

Tags: #breast, #size, #waist, #hip, #butt, #buttock, #slider, #head, #cas, #body

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You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3
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Jonha_Sliders.zip | --> Install this if you want the sliders. It should work with every game version. Please install the BASE package inside this zip, too.

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Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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Test Subject
#551 Old 11th Feb 2010 at 9:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VinnyHolly
I downloaded this and followed the instructions, I don't know what's wrong but it's not working, not even showing up.

do you use 1.10? or WA 2.5?
with the new patches from tuesday, it isn't working - atm
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Original Poster
#552 Old 11th Feb 2010 at 4:17 PM
People - please read the faq.

The sliders still work with the current version. But the hack doesn't. If you update the game, you have to remove the old SliderHack. And no, don't try to use the old sliderhack versions with incompatible games. They will not work. They will crash your game. I know that they will not work. They can't work. Trying it won't help me and it won't help you. It will only kill your game. Period.

And no, if you have Awesomemod, don't install the sliderhack, Awesomemod has it included and will conflict with my hack.
Instructor
#553 Old 11th Feb 2010 at 11:26 PM Last edited by goderguy : 23rd Feb 2010 at 2:01 AM.
I installed this and it works so well! Thank you so much - it's nice to create Sims with variety. One comment though - I forgot to not install all sliders and so I have the calf one as well as all others, and nothing happened - I can use all sliders with no seen issues. Should I delete it just in case?

goderguy
Test Subject
#554 Old 12th Feb 2010 at 5:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ree_chan
im wondering why i cant use any version that you uploaded. so first, i tried the 1.8.25-2.3.33 version, and the game shuts down after the opening the sims 3 movie, and same thing happened when i replaced the 1.8.25-2.3.33 version with the 1.9.22-2.4.7-3.0 version.

i've also got the d3dx9_31.dll in my game directory already. i've just installed the sims 3 on my computer, and there's absolutely no other mods in the packages folder. i dont know what to do please help me


Quoted for relevance. My issue is mostly the same except I have a lot of objects (but no other core mods). I have version 1.8TS3 and 2.4WA of the game, without HELS.

I have no idea wtf to do and I don't want to install Awesomemod since I'M SCARED OF CHANGE
Test Subject
#555 Old 12th Feb 2010 at 5:58 AM Last edited by Sharde141 : 12th Feb 2010 at 6:39 AM.
I was wondering if the sliders cause any performance problems such as slowing down the game or downgrading the graphics?

The only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing.
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Original Poster
#556 Old 12th Feb 2010 at 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zyymurgy
Quoted for relevance. My issue is mostly the same except I have a lot of objects (but no other core mods). I have version 1.8TS3 and 2.4WA of the game, without HELS.

I have no idea wtf to do and I don't want to install Awesomemod since I'M SCARED OF CHANGE


As already said, make sure the dll file is in the world adventures\game\bin, not only in the basegame directory. If it still doesn't work, no idea. Some people report that it just doesn't work while I of course can't really debug the problem because I'm not at these computers. I can only say, that it works fine for most people.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharde141
I was wondering if the sliders cause any performance problems such as slowing down the game or downgrading the graphics?


No. While in CAS the game may need a few Megabytes more RAM, but there should be real influence.
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#557 Old 13th Feb 2010 at 2:21 AM Last edited by freakdi : 13th Feb 2010 at 2:33 AM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HPLA
I have tried, and tried to get 'em to work, but no, ( maybe I did something wrong ), am I to put them in c:/programfiles/electronic arts/ The Sims 3 folder, or in the my documents folder, and before you say anything, yes, I tried both, :S, or is there more I have to install to get 'em to work properly?


Having a similar problem. I unrar'd the sliders, tried to extract the packages to C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\Sims 3\Mods\Packages as the default install instructions indicated.. (btw, I had to create the Mods\Packages folders, they were not there already.) A Windows error message popped up basically forbidding me to extract anything. It said I don't have permission to add files in this directory and I must do it from my User directory (I have Vista).

EDIT: Nevermind! Just read the install FAQ.. gotta download framework apparently.
Test Subject
#558 Old 13th Feb 2010 at 9:25 AM
the sliders dont show up
Test Subject
#559 Old 13th Feb 2010 at 4:49 PM
I tried everything but package not working.

Sims 3 : v1.9
Sims 3-WA: 2.4
Sims 3-HELS: 3.x

i tried all thing but no way, how to install it? Please help.
Test Subject
#560 Old 13th Feb 2010 at 7:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitz08
do you use 1.10? or WA 2.5?
with the new patches from tuesday, it isn't working - atm

It still works with 1.10, just that it has the slider limit, so you won't be getting the complete use of it. Hope a hack for 1.10 comes out soon. I like this a lot.
Test Subject
#561 Old 14th Feb 2010 at 2:30 AM
I apologize, I bought HEL, and downloaded your updated version, but, it now says my game version is 3.1.7.004017. I tried it and does not work. Does there need to be another update?
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#562 Old 14th Feb 2010 at 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzymarie
I apologize, I bought HEL, and downloaded your updated version, but, it now says my game version is 3.1.7.004017. I tried it and does not work. Does there need to be another update?


Yes of course. The latest version of the Sliderhack is for the un-updated version of HELS, version 3.0. For 3.1 you will need another update I will possibly upload today.
Test Subject
#563 Old 14th Feb 2010 at 3:01 PM
Thank you, I'm sure these updates are keeping you busy.
Test Subject
#564 Old 14th Feb 2010 at 4:25 PM
do i install it as a hack?
Lab Assistant
#565 Old 14th Feb 2010 at 5:15 PM
@Jonha: Will ya PLEASE update the sliders to 3.1 and 2.5 (for WA)?
Test Subject
#566 Old 14th Feb 2010 at 9:13 PM
When i double click it , it says access is denied!? can anyone help
Scholar
Original Poster
#567 Old 14th Feb 2010 at 10:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jordoosims
@Jonha: Will ya PLEASE update the sliders to 3.1 and 2.5 (for WA)?


Yes, I will, but I have to work during the week and even on the weekends there are other things that are more important and more fun. So please understand that it could take another day or two. I'm doing this for free and I personally really don't need it myself as I use awesomemod most of the time. This means I'm creating the sliderhack only for you and harassing me is not a nice way to appreciate that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxgaylexx
When i double click it , it says access is denied!? can anyone help


Who told you to doubleclick what?
Field Researcher
#568 Old 15th Feb 2010 at 1:39 AM
i love this.. but i have a Q, about the Jonha_SliderHack,
i know you said the game default is 20, and this adds to it.
but how many more slider slots dose this mod give us,
I'm just curious whats the max?

sorry if this has been asked, but i missed it.
Test Subject
#569 Old 15th Feb 2010 at 1:47 AM
thank u 4 this download! :D
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Original Poster
#570 Old 15th Feb 2010 at 1:47 PM Last edited by jonha : 15th Feb 2010 at 2:14 PM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazzyferret
i know you said the game default is 20, and this adds to it.
but how many more slider slots dose this mod give us,
I'm just curious whats the max?


The limit is now at 100 which should be way more than enough to install all currently available sliders. When there will me more sliderd available I may increase the value further.

Edit: OK, version for 1.10 is up.
Test Subject
#571 Old 15th Feb 2010 at 4:42 PM
So, why not copy them all and make each a different version in every section of the sliders?

I mean, like the breast slider, it is actually very possible to copy the slider to the head section. I mean, there could be 4 versions of the slider, one goes to Head & Ears, the other goes to Eyes, and the rest go to Nose and Mouth. If that happens, the total limit of how many sliders to install will be greatly increased, from mere 7 to 15, and we can mix and match sliders and find where to go to.

The sliders are good and many thanks. Hope it could do better though.
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Original Poster
#572 Old 15th Feb 2010 at 7:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dk4ofjoshuayhyu
So, why not copy them all and make each a different version in every section of the sliders?


Because that is way to much work for me. Feel free to edit the package yourself.

On a long term solution, I plan to add another section to the CAS UI like here:



But as written in the beta thread, I didn't managed to finish this.
Test Subject
#573 Old 15th Feb 2010 at 9:23 PM
when i click the sliders to install them into my game , it says access is denied! after i've ran them through WinRAR , and i double click them to install them
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