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Featured upload! [UPDATE] 10 new CAS Sliders (Breast, Hip, Waist, Butt, Head and more)

by jonha Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 5:56 PM - Updated 5th Jan 2012 at 11:45 PM by jonha : Update
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This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.

It seems the Pets patch changed the way the sliders work in game somehow. While they still can be installed and used, there may be some unusual deformations on your sims. So please be aware of that. You may continue to use them if you can live with this, but otherwise please wait until I provide an update. Note that this will probably take some time as I need to reinstall and update the game, find out what things EA changed, maybe adjust the necessary modding tools and finally adjust the sliders to the new behavior (if possible). Seems to be a lot of work? It is. And I don't have much time currently, so please be patient.



As I posted here, I started working on Body Sliders for Sims 3. A beta-version was uploaded in this thread.

Included are:
  • Breast (female teen-elder)
  • Waist (all ages and genders)
  • Hip Size (all ages and genders)
  • Butt (both genders, teen-elder)
  • Head Size (all ages and genders)
  • Shoulder Width (all ages and genders, was experimental before)
  • Neck (all ages and genders)
  • Chest (all ages and genders)
  • Leg width (all ages and genders)
  • Calf (all ages and genders)
The head size slider and the neck slider will appear in the head region, the other sliders will appear in the mouth region until someone manages to create a new region in CAS.

These sliders are genetical and will be always visible. For example, if you use the breast slider on males, there will be no visible changes, but you can influence, what genes they may forward to their children.

These sliders use quite realistic ranges that work well on all fit/fatness states and all clothing. If you require more extreme sims, you can use a slider multiplier hack, as included with Awesomemod or NRaas Master Controller, but look at the issues below.

Known issues:
  • The basic female t-shirt (the first in the list) has some strange bone assignments. I tweaked the breast slider, so it should look okay in most cases, but it may look bad on very thin and very muscular sims with very large breasts. If you want to be sure, install GnatGoSplat's T-Shirt Replacement Meshes fix (highly recommended). This is not needed since LN as EA fixed their meshes.
  • When using a slider hack that increases the slider range, you will notice, that with the waist slider, the upper body and head will shrink on extreme settings, and with the hip and butt slider, legs and feet will shrink. Also, the hands may begin to shake. This is by design and can't be fixed unless you redo/create bone assignments for every mesh. This effect is unnoticeable in the default slider range.
  • The arm position is changed by the waist slider and the hands may intersect with the hip on extreme settings.
  • The sliders aren't affected (or are reset) by the randomize function. (this behavior changed with LN, now the sliders get random values as every other slider)
  • The adult breast slider is rather pointy and unrealistic, but probably still better than the LN slider. I'm working on it.

Slider limits:
The game has a hardcoded limit of 20 sliders per section. This unfornuately means, that you can't install unlimited sliders. As the game already has a lot of sliders, there are only very few free slots:
  • Head & Ears: 2
  • Eyes: 3
  • Nose: 3
  • Mouth: 7
As 2 of my sliders go into the head section and 8 of my sliders go into the mouth section, you can't install all my sliders at the same time without hacks. In this case I suggest installing everything but the calf slider. Also, you have to be careful if you have other sliders installed because they need slots, too.

You can install for example Twallans Master Controller and Master Controller Integration, this Slider Hack, Awesomemod, or any other mod that increases or removes the limit. But all these mods only work for specific game versions (this means if you update the game you will need to update them too, or you will get startup crashes or other issues) and they may conflict with other core mods (Twallans mods don't conflict, because they are no core mod).

If the game is crashing at startup after installing a core mod, or you are getting messages about incompatible mods, you probably
  • use mismatching game/mod versions
  • use multiple core mods at the same time
  • don't have the d3dx9_31.dll in game\bin (only necessary when your mod is not in your my documents directory)

Installation:
You have to install the package labeled BASE in any case, as it contains all the texts for the user interface. Apart from that you can choose freely, what sliders you wish to install, if you make sure, you don't exceed the slider limit.

Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Updating:
If you previously used my 5 (or 6) sliders, just download the new ones and overwrite the old files. Sims will retain their body shape (with the exception of very small tuning changes).



FAQ:
Problem: My game crashes after installing this mod!
Answer: Make sure your slider hack and and your game version are compatible and you don't have old hacks installed. The sliders themselves should not be able crash the game.

Problem: My lip/jaw (or whatever) slider stopped working!
Answer: You are exceeding the slider limit of 20 sliders per section. Please install some mod to remove/increase the slider limit. Or uninstall sliders to stay under the limit.

Problem: It doesn't work!
Answer: Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Problem: It still doesn't work!
Answer: They work. Either you put the packages to the wrong location, or your framework is not properly installed. Maybe try Delphy's Framework tool. Maybe try installing another mod so you can be sure if it's my sliders or a general framework problem.

Problem: I can't find them! / Where do they appear ingame?
Answer: Don't look where the fatness slider is. They are actually facial sliders so they are in Head->General and Mouth->General. See the rightmost screenshot. Try to scroll down.

Problem: I'm too stupid/young/foreign/lazy to understand the install instructions! I still have issues!
Answer: I'm sorry, but I won't explain everything again and I can't tell you more as I already wrote here. If you have a specific question or problem you can ask me, but I won't reply to posts like "I can't get it to work!" or "I don't understand the instructions!". I got several messages from people who had problems, and I just told them to read and follow the descriptions again and then it worked for most of them. So just read and try it again (and then maybe again) and if it still doesn't work and you have some usable problem description, you can pm me or leave a comment. Please note that this download has a lot of comments and I can't reply to all. If you think you have an important topic (and not some random "I can't get it to work"-post where you tried it only one time) and I forgot you, please write a pm which I tend to check more often. But trying to add a comment first is probably a good idea, because other people might be able to help you, too.

Question: Can you make a arm/bodybuilder/eye/height/belly/whatever slider?
Answer: Sorry, I don't have plans to create additional sliders at the moment. There are already a lot of sliders from different people.

Question: Does it work together with Awesomemod or another core mod?
Answer: Yes. If the core mod itself removes the slider limit (as Awesomemod does), everything is fine, else you have to make sure you don't install too many sliders.

Question: Where can I find other sliders?
Answer:(List is incomplete, just google)

Question: Can I use them together?
Answer: Of course. Just make sure, to either stay under the 20 slider limit or otherwise install a core mod that removes the limit (recommended).

Compatibility:
The sliders work with all currently known game versions (tested up to version 1.29) and should work with all future versions, unless EA does big changes to the slider system. In game versions after 1.24 there may be minor deformation issues as explained at the top of the page. They work on PC and Mac. Some people have reported that they work even with The Sims Medieval, but I don't have this game so I can not give you install instructions or support for this.

The possibility of a conflict with other mods is nearly nonexistent as a conflicting mod would need to use the same instance IDs. Therefore a conflict can only happen, if someone wants to produce a conflict, or if someone does a really bad job at cloning my sliders and publishes his/her sliders with the same IDs.

Additional Credits:
I want to thank Delphy for his Small Editors and everyone else, wo did research and wrote tools, that helped me creating this (s3pi, s3pe, MilkShape exporters/importers, Blender, Wolfram Alpha, Gimp, and many more).

Thanks to everyone, who tested this and sent me feedback or translations.

Tags: #breast, #size, #waist, #hip, #butt, #buttock, #slider, #head, #cas, #body

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You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 3
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Jonha_Sliders.zip | --> Install this if you want the sliders. It should work with every game version. Please install the BASE package inside this zip, too.

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Basic Download and Install Instructions:

See: Game Help:TS3 CC Basicswiki for a full guide!
 
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Test Subject
#626 Old 23rd Feb 2010 at 5:19 PM Last edited by LeoLady271 : 23rd Feb 2010 at 7:27 PM.
It's not working for me. I updated direct x which has the dll file in it. I only want 3 of the sliders so i only chose 3 and the base. The Sims 3 version i have is 1.10.6.004001 I took them out and re downloaded thinking I may have choose the wrong one. But still the same. The game goes through the Ea Logo them the sims 3 Logo but once the cinematic is over it crashes to desk top. I'm using Win XP Home. The only other mod i have installed on this game is the Nomosaic from this site.

Thanks for your time
LeoLady

Update**
Ok I got it working Downloaded and installed gnatgosplat and delphy monkey bars one of these had the dll file in it and i separately extracted that file to needed folder.
Issue fixed.
I also notice that on the lips I had to scroll down and I would have missed that if I hadn't read your instruction on the mod.

Thanks for your time and efforts on this mod. Good Job
Scholar
Original Poster
#627 Old 23rd Feb 2010 at 5:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeoLady271
It's not working for me. I updated direct x which has the dll file in it.


Erm, no. You need a hacked dll file in the game/bin directory. It is meant to override the default directx dll file enabling the use of unofficial core mods. With the default file in this location or without any file at all it will not work.
Test Subject
#628 Old 24th Feb 2010 at 12:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonha
Install Monkey as far as I know wasn't updated for WA and may cause problems. Anyw, be sure to install the first download, "Jonha_Sliders", too. The SliderHack only allows you to install more sliders. You have to actually install them.



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Oh my god! huahuaa, as I was an ass, sorry, did not put the Jonha_Sliders, only the updates .. hehe, put the packages right now and it worked!
Test Subject
#629 Old 24th Feb 2010 at 3:00 AM
Hey Jonah I have windows 7 and every time I try to extract the files from my win-rar to the mods/packages folder in the root bin it tells me access denied. Am I doing something wrong or am I missing some thing? Please help I can't live with out your sliders! I had them on my last computer
Lab Assistant
#630 Old 24th Feb 2010 at 12:04 PM
any version like this for the sims 2 ? anyone knows where can i find one?
Test Subject
#631 Old 24th Feb 2010 at 5:18 PM
ok im new so dont like pwn me but can someone walk me through step by step on how to put the sliders in my game? and wat is the BASE install?
Scholar
Original Poster
#632 Old 24th Feb 2010 at 8:11 PM Last edited by jonha : 25th Feb 2010 at 3:27 PM. Reason: my "y" key is broken, fixed a few typos
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabrinashear
Hey Jonah I have windows 7 and every time I try to extract the files from my win-rar to the mods/packages folder in the root bin it tells me access denied. Am I doing something wrong or am I missing some thing? Please help I can't live with out your sliders! I had them on my last computer


Extract them to a location where you can write (for example the desktop) and then copy them to your mods folder (windows will then probably show a box where you have to confirm this and maybe enter your admin password). you can also try updating WinRAR or changing the file permissions of the mod folder.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mysteryhouse
any version like this for the sims 2 ? anyone knows where can i find one?


There is none as far as I know.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zetsu77
ok im new so dont like pwn me but can someone walk me through step by step on how to put the sliders in my game? and wat is the BASE install?


No, read the faq on the front page. The BASE package is inside Jonha_Sliders. Just install it as every other package. Some people forgot this and got strange numbers in the UI.
Test Subject
#633 Old 25th Feb 2010 at 5:33 PM
I installed it but where does it appear in Build a sim?
Scholar
Original Poster
#634 Old 25th Feb 2010 at 6:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawn_mon
I installed it but where does it appear in Build a sim?


Read the faq and look at the last screenshot.
Test Subject
#635 Old 26th Feb 2010 at 2:03 PM
Yay dutch!! ^^ fantastic work!! can't wait to try them out!
Test Subject
#636 Old 27th Feb 2010 at 5:33 AM Last edited by Lucavi : 27th Feb 2010 at 5:46 AM.
Nevermind! I am a fool - it works perfectly! I was looking in the wrong section, like a dolt. Thank you for such an amazing mod!
Test Subject
#637 Old 27th Feb 2010 at 11:49 AM
It's sooo GREAT !!
Thank you !!
Lab Assistant
#638 Old 27th Feb 2010 at 11:03 PM
Jonha,
I installed your sliders and I absolutely love the changes I am able to make to my sims. I just have one small problem (small enough that I will keep these even if I can't fix it):

Quote:
No, read the faq on the front page. The BASE package is inside Jonha_Sliders. Just install it as every other package. Some people forgot this and got strange numbers in the UI.


I just installed AD85's extended core mod and it said not to install the BASE from your sliders.....so I have all the weird numbers. Is there a way to fix this?

Thanks for sharing your work!
Test Subject
#639 Old 28th Feb 2010 at 8:30 AM
Does it work on WA 2.5.12 patch
Scholar
Original Poster
#640 Old 28th Feb 2010 at 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by burningglare
I just installed AD85's extended core mod and it said not to install the BASE from your sliders..


Then he's wrong. The BASE package is absolutely harmless and will conflict with nothing. He probably meant, you shouldn't install the SliderHack.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miillii123
Does it work on WA 2.5.12 patch


Sure
Lab Assistant
#641 Old 28th Feb 2010 at 10:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by burningglare
I just installed AD85's extended core mod and it said not to install the BASE from your sliders..

Originally Posted by jonha
Then he's wrong. The BASE package is absolutely harmless and will conflict with nothing. He probably meant, you shouldn't install the SliderHack.


Yes, you are right jonha. I apparently misunderstood....I left out the SliderHack and the BASE package.

This is what was posted on AD85's thread:
Quote:
CAS Sliders by jonha (install only the collection of sliders, but leave out the slider hack)


Yay! now I can see what I am adjusting.
Test Subject
#642 Old 28th Feb 2010 at 11:38 PM
Does it work with version 1.0.631.00002? (Yeah, I don't update, I've had some bad memories from updating)
Scholar
Original Poster
#643 Old 28th Feb 2010 at 11:53 PM
The sliders should work, the slider hack of course not.
Lab Assistant
#644 Old 1st Mar 2010 at 12:47 AM
Hi there

This is causing Design and High Tech Stuff not to start. Do we need to put d3dx9_31.dll in the program folder for the SP too?

Thanks!

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Scholar
Original Poster
#645 Old 1st Mar 2010 at 6:27 AM
Yes. I updated the faq on the front page. Maybe you need to update the hack, too.
Lab Assistant
#646 Old 1st Mar 2010 at 11:01 AM
I have your sliders and Delpy's breast sliders, and the ears sliders, but the slider expansion hack now will not work with WA and HELS. Is there an update for this and if so, where can I find it please?

The Cat Lady "Meow!"
:popcorn: Eat'n downloadaholic
Scholar
Original Poster
#647 Old 1st Mar 2010 at 6:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClMeow
I have your sliders and Delpy's breast sliders, and the ears sliders, but the slider expansion hack now will not work with WA and HELS. Is there an update for this and if so, where can I find it please?


The slider hack works with HELS and WA. maybe you forgot to put the d3dx9_31.dll in your HELS game\bin directory, too.
Test Subject
#648 Old 1st Mar 2010 at 6:12 PM
okay, i know this is going to make me seem totally stupid, but i have NO idea which game version i have, and as such, i have NO clue as to which file to download.
how could i find out my version?
Scholar
Original Poster
#649 Old 1st Mar 2010 at 6:29 PM
Use the launcher.
Test Subject
#650 Old 3rd Mar 2010 at 1:04 AM
ahhhhhhhhh, i see... well, yeah, now i feel really stupid lol
thanx, jonha!
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