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Auto Shorter Teens

by Menaceman44 Posted 16th May 2020 at 3:23 PM - Updated 13th Mar 2021 at 8:16 PM by Menaceman44 : Updated Files
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Description
This has been a long time coming.
Ever since the announcement of The Sims 4 and the realisation that Teens would be the same height as Adults I have hoped and dreamed that it would one day be possible to shorten them down with mods.

Mods were created to address this and I was overjoyed but then patches would break them only for them to never be updated.
Fantastic sliders were created to alter the heights of Sims but it all had to be done manually and then reset once a Sim aged past the Teen stage.

I wanted something that would work automatically on all Teens in the game whether played or not and return them to normal height once they passed the Teen stage.
Today I bring you just that!

Info
This mod is an amalgamation of my own work and that of several other wonderful creators used with their permission.
I would very much like to thank simmythesim for the initial early work into height sliders and a shorter Teen mod.
Luumia whos height sliders the modifiers in this mod come from.
NiveaSimsCC whos bone delta values were added to Luumia's modifiers to tweak the result more to my liking.
And CmarNYC for piecing together how to obtain the Instance values required to make this mod work.
Without the help of these wonderful creators I would not have been able to bring this to you today.

So, onto the details.
First of all this is NOT a slider or a body preset.
This mod overrides the Teen specific CAS Modifier Tuning XMLs for each of the occult types and adds in a new reference to the short height modifier.
This means that any Sim that is created as a Teen in CAS, or ages up to a Teen through normal gameplay will automatically be shorter than Adult Sims. It also means that once they age past the Teen stage they will return to the default height for an Adult Sim.
You don't need to do anything different to have this mod take affect on newly created or aged Teens.

It is important to note, however, that already existing Teens will NOT automatically become shorter upon installing this mod. There is a way around this though.
Open the cheat console and enter the cas.fulleditmode cheat. Now take the existing Teen Sim into CAS either through a mirror, dresser, or other method. Once in CAS you need to change either the Sim's frame or gender and then switch back for the shorter height to be applied. You can then exit CAS.

I haven't noticed any oddities when Teens interact with or carry Toddlers or small pets.
A useful side effect of this mod makes it easier to identify Teens from the Relationships and Household Members panels as their pictures will appear lower in the frame when compared to Adults.

I hope you all enjoy your (mostly) automatically shorter Teens!

Notes
As with all height related mods there will be some clipping of animations and certain interactions between Sims of different heights may not align correctly. Correcting those is outside the scope of this mod although I have tried to use values that reduce this.
Teens and Young Adults uploaded to the Gallery will be flagged as containing CC. Pointed out to me by Spiderses. I forgot to check Gallery usage.
This mod is, as far as I am aware and have tested, compatible with other height slider mods. This means you can alter the individual heights of Sims still, including Teens, if you like with the use of other CC sliders.
When creating a Sim and selecting a new body preset for a Teen they may reset to Adult height. To fix this simply swap their gender and then swap back again. Swapping frames does not work in this situation.
On one occassion during testing, after editing a pre-existing Teen their left hand went missing after exiting CAS. After a few minutes of in-game time the hand returned on its own.
If you use Khitsule's pointy ears unlocker then make sure to choose one of the "PlusEarsUnlocker" versions.
This mod also corrects an EA error where the tuning for Teen Spellcasters incorrectly classifies them as Vampires instead.

Conflicts


The mod will conflict with CaS Modifiers bugfix: Aging & Randomization by Shimrod101 although that mod may no longer work anyway since the other modifiers used in it seem to have been removed from the game files.
It will also conflict with Pointy Ears Unlocked - All Ages by Khitsune. If you use this, make sure to download the "PlusEarsUnlocker" version instead and place the file in an Override folder.

March 12th 2021
In an attempt to address the issue where Teens will not get taller when aging to Young Adults for some players, I have recreated the mod with fresh tuning and now included the Young Adult modifier tunings with minor alterations as well.

26th May 2020
Thanks to the feedback from cedrigo I have made it so that Teens necks will now scale down to better suit the smaller propotions. This will affect all Sims as there are no seperate modifiers for the different gender options.
DClick mentioned that this mod conflicts with Khitsule's Pointy Ears Unlocker and so I have added a new version which should mean you can keep both files in your game and still have access to the pointy ears modifiers for Teens.
Lastly, FullMetalAlchemist requested a version that uses the same height as NiveaSimsCC's Teen Preset. There are two versions of this. One with the pointed ears unlocked and one without.
If you spot anything iffy please let me know. I had to edit a lot of numerical values for all the new versions and my eyes might have missed something.

Additional Credits:
MorphMaker,
Sims4Studio,
s4pe.

You must have the expansion, game version or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 4
Built with Game Version: 1.71.86.10
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
MMautoShorterTeensShortestPlusEarsUnlocker.zip | For players who want the shortest Teens and also use Khitsule's pointy ears unlocker.

Size: 40.2 KB · Downloads: 7,615 · 12th Mar 2021
40.2 KB 7,615 12th Mar 2021
MMautoShorterTeensShortest.zip | Alternate version to make Teens even shorter. Same height as NiveaSimsCC's Teen preset.

Size: 40.1 KB · Downloads: 13,154 · 12th Mar 2021
40.1 KB 13,154 12th Mar 2021
MMautoShorterTeensPlusEarsUnlocker.zip | Same as basic file but also unlocks pointed ear manipulation for users of Khitsule's unlocker.

Size: 39.9 KB · Downloads: 6,076 · 12th Mar 2021
39.9 KB 6,076 12th Mar 2021
MMautoShorterTeens.zip | Basic mod to make Teens shorter. Main download.

Size: 40.2 KB · Downloads: 42,654 · 12th Mar 2021
40.2 KB 42,654 12th Mar 2021
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3. Cut and paste the .package file(s) (if included, ts4script as well) into your Mods folder
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Top Secret Researcher
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#2 Old 16th May 2020 at 3:30 PM
Oh wow, finally a working short teen mod! Thank you so much, this is awesome! I am always hesitant to use height sliders, so I think this will work great for me. Again thanks!
Test Subject
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#3 Old 16th May 2020 at 3:43 PM
Amazing Thank you so much!!
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#4 Old 16th May 2020 at 3:43 PM
Amazing thank you. can't wait to try it out.
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#5 Old 16th May 2020 at 5:43 PM
Love This! thank you! thank you! thank you!
Field Researcher
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#6 Old 16th May 2020 at 5:44 PM
I can already tell this is going to be a must have. Thank you!
Lab Assistant
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#7 Old 16th May 2020 at 6:23 PM
I never thought this could be done, but you did it. Great job!

Edit: the only issue I can find is that every teen is flagged as using CC in the Gallery now, but I suppose it can't be avoided.
Mad Poster
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#8 Old 16th May 2020 at 6:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Spiderses
I never thought this could be done, but you did it. Great job!

Edit: the only issue I can find is that every teen is flagged as using CC in the Gallery now, but I suppose it can't be avoided.

Thanks for that. The Gallery was one thing I never thought to test since I don't really use it much myself. I guess it's because they are having a custom modifier applied to them. I best go mention on the main page.

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Instructor
#9 Old 16th May 2020 at 7:33 PM
OMG thanks!!! Just a question though, is your mod compatible with nivea's shorter teen preset? Just temporarily so I don't have to go back and manually edit all my teen Sims, I have so many of them in my game now LOL

"Deep down I'm pretty superficial"

Mad Poster
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#10 Old 16th May 2020 at 8:14 PM
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Originally Posted by alexpilgrim
OMG thanks!!! Just a question though, is your mod compatible with nivea's shorter teen preset? Just temporarily so I don't have to go back and manually edit all my teen Sims, I have so many of them in my game now LOL

Compatible as in you can have them both in your game at the same time or you can apply both to a Sim at the same time?

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#11 Old 16th May 2020 at 8:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Menaceman44
Compatible as in you can have them both in your game at the same time or you can apply both to a Sim at the same time?


As in having both in the game until this generation of teens become young adults. I hadn't thought about applying both to a Sim... could be interesting but I guess the animations could be wonky?

I test it :p

"Deep down I'm pretty superficial"

Test Subject
#12 Old 16th May 2020 at 8:48 PM
Hi,
at first, thank you for your mod, i have just reinstalled TS4 and this is exactly what i was looking for.

Just a couple of questions:

1) just in case, can the mod be removed safely without breaking the save if there are teens in game? will they be reverted to the default height automatically?

2) i noticed a small "bug" (see photo in the link below): the sims who are teens have now their character face icons smaller than the other sims, can this be fixed?

https://imgur.com/a/s738Ezk
Mad Poster
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#13 Old 16th May 2020 at 9:04 PM
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Originally Posted by alexpilgrim
As in having both in the game until this generation of teens become young adults. I hadn't thought about applying both to a Sim... could be interesting but I guess the animations could be wonky?

I test it :p

Yes, both files play nicely together in the game. You can also apply both at the same time. You could even if you wanted, apply BOTH of NiveaSimsCC's presets on top of this mod. Ths results in VERY tiny Teens.

My deviantART, MTS Yearbook Origin ID = Alistu
Mad Poster
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#14 Old 16th May 2020 at 9:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FullMetalAlchemist
Hi,
at first, thank you for your mod, i have just reinstalled TS4 and this is exactly what i was looking for.

Just a couple of questions:

1) just in case, can the mod be removed safely without breaking the save if there are teens in game? will they be reverted to the default height automatically?

2) i noticed a small "bug" (see photo in the link below): the sims who are teens have now their character face icons smaller than the other sims, can this be fixed?

https://imgur.com/a/s738Ezk

1) If you remove the mod then Teens will simply return to the default height once they change outfits.

2) Nothing can be done about this I'm afraid. The position of the camera that takes the face pictures cannot be modded. At least, nobody has figured out how if it is possible. I personally find it of benefit since I can identify the Teens easier.

My deviantART, MTS Yearbook Origin ID = Alistu
Field Researcher
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#15 Old 16th May 2020 at 9:15 PM
Oh, wonderful! I've always disliked that they've made teens essentially into younger young adults. While there might be occasional teens who are taller than their parents, they are usually a little shorter. This will add some great realism!

I'm going to presume that some CAS items in the hats category will no longer work correctly on them. I'm personally willing to live with that for this.

One question: What happens if this mod needs to be removed for a patch? Will the already existing teens stay that height when they age? Or will they automatically reset the height to normal at some point? (Like a reset or aging up.) (Edit: You've already answered this with the previous poster. Thanks!)
Lab Assistant
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#16 Old 16th May 2020 at 9:38 PM
works wonderfully thank you
Instructor
#17 Old 16th May 2020 at 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Menaceman44
Yes, both files play nicely together in the game. You can also apply both at the same time. You could even if you wanted, apply BOTH of NiveaSimsCC's presets on top of this mod. Ths results in VERY tiny Teens.


Yes, tested in game and the result is a shorter shorter Sim, interesting. I didn't know NiveaSimsCC had two presets, I need to check that out LOL

"Deep down I'm pretty superficial"

Instructor
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#18 Old 17th May 2020 at 12:59 AM
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
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#19 Old 17th May 2020 at 1:49 AM
AWESOME
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#20 Old 17th May 2020 at 1:54 AM
This is marvelous. Thank you. I've always wanted my teens to stand apart from the adults. I usually give them funky hair to make them easier to spot. Now I won't have to. I tried the height sliders and always had trouble with them. Either they wouldn't work at all or they threw LE's at me. This is great! Thank You!
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#21 Old 17th May 2020 at 1:55 AM
I never thought this could be done, Thank You so much!
Lab Assistant
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#22 Old 17th May 2020 at 1:58 AM
Super Dooper Tall Teen Pooper :-D
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#23 Old 17th May 2020 at 5:37 AM
Thank you very much!!!
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#24 Old 17th May 2020 at 9:09 AM
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH! Its modders like you guys that are the backbone of the game honestly yall listen to the players more than the developers ever do ;_;
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#25 Old 17th May 2020 at 11:39 AM
You are my hero today. Enjoy your day!!
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