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Auto Shorter Teens

by Menaceman44 Posted 16th May 2020 at 3:23 PM - Updated 13th Mar 2021 at 8:16 PM by Menaceman44 : Updated Files
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Description
This has been a long time coming.
Ever since the announcement of The Sims 4 and the realisation that Teens would be the same height as Adults I have hoped and dreamed that it would one day be possible to shorten them down with mods.

Mods were created to address this and I was overjoyed but then patches would break them only for them to never be updated.
Fantastic sliders were created to alter the heights of Sims but it all had to be done manually and then reset once a Sim aged past the Teen stage.

I wanted something that would work automatically on all Teens in the game whether played or not and return them to normal height once they passed the Teen stage.
Today I bring you just that!

Info
This mod is an amalgamation of my own work and that of several other wonderful creators used with their permission.
I would very much like to thank simmythesim for the initial early work into height sliders and a shorter Teen mod.
Luumia whos height sliders the modifiers in this mod come from.
NiveaSimsCC whos bone delta values were added to Luumia's modifiers to tweak the result more to my liking.
And CmarNYC for piecing together how to obtain the Instance values required to make this mod work.
Without the help of these wonderful creators I would not have been able to bring this to you today.

So, onto the details.
First of all this is NOT a slider or a body preset.
This mod overrides the Teen specific CAS Modifier Tuning XMLs for each of the occult types and adds in a new reference to the short height modifier.
This means that any Sim that is created as a Teen in CAS, or ages up to a Teen through normal gameplay will automatically be shorter than Adult Sims. It also means that once they age past the Teen stage they will return to the default height for an Adult Sim.
You don't need to do anything different to have this mod take affect on newly created or aged Teens.

It is important to note, however, that already existing Teens will NOT automatically become shorter upon installing this mod. There is a way around this though.
Open the cheat console and enter the cas.fulleditmode cheat. Now take the existing Teen Sim into CAS either through a mirror, dresser, or other method. Once in CAS you need to change either the Sim's frame or gender and then switch back for the shorter height to be applied. You can then exit CAS.

I haven't noticed any oddities when Teens interact with or carry Toddlers or small pets.
A useful side effect of this mod makes it easier to identify Teens from the Relationships and Household Members panels as their pictures will appear lower in the frame when compared to Adults.

I hope you all enjoy your (mostly) automatically shorter Teens!

Notes
As with all height related mods there will be some clipping of animations and certain interactions between Sims of different heights may not align correctly. Correcting those is outside the scope of this mod although I have tried to use values that reduce this.
Teens and Young Adults uploaded to the Gallery will be flagged as containing CC. Pointed out to me by Spiderses. I forgot to check Gallery usage.
This mod is, as far as I am aware and have tested, compatible with other height slider mods. This means you can alter the individual heights of Sims still, including Teens, if you like with the use of other CC sliders.
When creating a Sim and selecting a new body preset for a Teen they may reset to Adult height. To fix this simply swap their gender and then swap back again. Swapping frames does not work in this situation.
On one occassion during testing, after editing a pre-existing Teen their left hand went missing after exiting CAS. After a few minutes of in-game time the hand returned on its own.
If you use Khitsule's pointy ears unlocker then make sure to choose one of the "PlusEarsUnlocker" versions.
This mod also corrects an EA error where the tuning for Teen Spellcasters incorrectly classifies them as Vampires instead.

Conflicts


The mod will conflict with CaS Modifiers bugfix: Aging & Randomization by Shimrod101 although that mod may no longer work anyway since the other modifiers used in it seem to have been removed from the game files.
It will also conflict with Pointy Ears Unlocked - All Ages by Khitsune. If you use this, make sure to download the "PlusEarsUnlocker" version instead and place the file in an Override folder.

March 12th 2021
In an attempt to address the issue where Teens will not get taller when aging to Young Adults for some players, I have recreated the mod with fresh tuning and now included the Young Adult modifier tunings with minor alterations as well.

26th May 2020
Thanks to the feedback from cedrigo I have made it so that Teens necks will now scale down to better suit the smaller propotions. This will affect all Sims as there are no seperate modifiers for the different gender options.
DClick mentioned that this mod conflicts with Khitsule's Pointy Ears Unlocker and so I have added a new version which should mean you can keep both files in your game and still have access to the pointy ears modifiers for Teens.
Lastly, FullMetalAlchemist requested a version that uses the same height as NiveaSimsCC's Teen Preset. There are two versions of this. One with the pointed ears unlocked and one without.
If you spot anything iffy please let me know. I had to edit a lot of numerical values for all the new versions and my eyes might have missed something.

Additional Credits:
MorphMaker,
Sims4Studio,
s4pe.

You must have the expansion, game version or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 4
Built with Game Version: 1.71.86.10
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
MMautoShorterTeensShortestPlusEarsUnlocker.zip | For players who want the shortest Teens and also use Khitsule's pointy ears unlocker.

Size: 40.2 KB · Downloads: 7,466 · 12th Mar 2021
40.2 KB 7,466 12th Mar 2021
MMautoShorterTeensShortest.zip | Alternate version to make Teens even shorter. Same height as NiveaSimsCC's Teen preset.

Size: 40.1 KB · Downloads: 12,983 · 12th Mar 2021
40.1 KB 12,983 12th Mar 2021
MMautoShorterTeensPlusEarsUnlocker.zip | Same as basic file but also unlocks pointed ear manipulation for users of Khitsule's unlocker.

Size: 39.9 KB · Downloads: 5,990 · 12th Mar 2021
39.9 KB 5,990 12th Mar 2021
MMautoShorterTeens.zip | Basic mod to make Teens shorter. Main download.

Size: 40.2 KB · Downloads: 42,245 · 12th Mar 2021
40.2 KB 42,245 12th Mar 2021
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Field Researcher
#126 Old 19th Nov 2020 at 4:04 AM
Hi there, just noting that my YA sim is still short. I forgot about his birthday so he aged on his own, but I'm hoping other inactive sims aren't doing the same!
Test Subject
#127 Old 19th Nov 2020 at 9:00 PM
Default One of My Favorite Mods


First off, I love this mod soooo much. Thank you for making it. I've noticed lately though that it doesn't seem to be working in my game. My newer teens are no longer auto-sizing down and the older ones are getting stuck short even as an adult. I miss the mod and I hope it works again for me.
Lab Assistant
THANKS POST
#128 Old 20th Nov 2020 at 4:41 AM
MMautoShorterTeensShortest is working, the default main file isn't.
Lab Assistant
THANKS POST
#129 Old 20th Nov 2020 at 4:54 AM
Installing Luumia's high slider, taking it out, and then installing any of the auto presets here fails. I had to go into cas, set the teen to child, exit cas, re-enter cas, and set the sim to teen again for the auto preset (shortest) to work. Spoke with Turbo Driver, her mod only works with Luumia's height slider and similar, which is a shame. Too bad Luumia's height slider requires manual intervention on every teen.
Mad Poster
Original Poster
#130 Old 23rd Nov 2020 at 8:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xordevoreaux
Installing Luumia's high slider, taking it out, and then installing any of the auto presets here fails. I had to go into cas, set the teen to child, exit cas, re-enter cas, and set the sim to teen again for the auto preset (shortest) to work. Spoke with Turbo Driver, her mod only works with Luumia's height slider and similar, which is a shame. Too bad Luumia's height slider requires manual intervention on every teen.

This sounds correct.
Existing Teens will not automatically become shorter just by using this mod. This mod should make newly created or aged Teens shorter automatically. That's why setting them to Child and then back to Teen did work for you.
Although I do explain all of this on the first post and simply swapping their gender setting then switching it back in CAS should be enough to correct the height of existing Teens.
I still need to take a look though as I have now had multiple reports of this no longer working so I need to check if EA changed something I wasn't aware of.

My deviantART, MTS Yearbook Origin ID = Alistu
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Lab Assistant
#131 Old 24th Nov 2020 at 6:06 AM
Default Good work!
A user had brought up that the height difference between teens and adults isn't huge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHXJTxPPnZ8

Can you change the height of teens:






Teens should be more shorter but not too short. Short enough to make the height difference between adults and teens more noticeable.
Mad Poster
Original Poster
#132 Old 24th Nov 2020 at 2:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperGal<3
A user had brought up that the height difference between teens and adults isn't huge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHXJTxPPnZ8

Can you change the height of teens:

Teens should be more shorter but not too short. Short enough to make the height difference between adults and teens more noticeable.

Which version of the mod have you tried? There is the standard AutoShorterTeens which was shown in the video you link to, and then I made a newer version called AutoShorterTeensShortest which sets the Teens to the shortest they can go with this mod which is much more obvious.

My deviantART, MTS Yearbook Origin ID = Alistu
Lab Assistant
#133 Old 25th Nov 2020 at 5:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Menaceman44
Which version of the mod have you tried? There is the standard AutoShorterTeens which was shown in the video you link to, and then I made a newer version called AutoShorterTeensShortest which sets the Teens to the shortest they can go with this mod which is much more obvious.


Oh I haven't tried any mod. I just noticed the newer mod. Thank you for the response!
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#134 Old 30th Nov 2020 at 9:37 PM
Holy, you're a literal lifesaver! Now I can finally have shorter teens. Omfg. I love you so much.
Test Subject
#135 Old 4th Dec 2020 at 1:52 AM
Does this still work?
Test Subject
#136 Old 5th Dec 2020 at 10:49 AM
yes, it's working fine in my game

edit: I thought maybe I should be more specific, just in case... So, I'm using the shortest option. It works great, but I can't verify the others.
Mad Poster
Original Poster
#137 Old 6th Dec 2020 at 6:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CataSweetSunshine
Does this still work?

Unless EA changes how the game generates Sims then this should still function. It should only need updating if new life states are added to the game.

My deviantART, MTS Yearbook Origin ID = Alistu
Lab Assistant
#138 Old 8th Dec 2020 at 12:14 PM
The patch on the 7th apparently killed CAS-based sliders. Did this mod survive it? My fingers are crossed it did (except not literally because coffee needs drinking)

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Mad Poster
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#139 Old 8th Dec 2020 at 11:59 PM
While I haven't got around to checking this in my own game yet, I can at least tell you that all of the sliders I use in my game are working perfectly fine. The only sliders I have heard anything about being broken are some specific breast sliders.

My deviantART, MTS Yearbook Origin ID = Alistu
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#140 Old 7th Jan 2021 at 6:20 PM
thank you for this amazing and useful mod
Test Subject
#141 Old 18th Jan 2021 at 7:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Menaceman44
While I haven't got around to checking this in my own game yet, I can at least tell you that all of the sliders I use in my game are working perfectly fine. The only sliders I have heard anything about being broken are some specific breast sliders.



My young adult is still short. I haven't noticed it on any other sims though.

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Mad Poster
Original Poster
#142 Old 19th Jan 2021 at 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Serenity119
My young adult is still short. I haven't noticed it on any other sims though.

Did they age up while you were playing them or were they on another lot at the time? I can't see why this would make a diference but the more info I have the better.

My deviantART, MTS Yearbook Origin ID = Alistu
Test Subject
#143 Old 23rd Jan 2021 at 12:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Menaceman44
Did they age up while you were playing them or were they on another lot at the time? I can't see why this would make a diference but the more info I have the better.


They aged up while I was playing them.

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Lab Assistant
#144 Old 7th Feb 2021 at 10:02 AM
I'm not sure if I want shorter or shortest. Could you demonstrate the height difference between default, shorter, and shortest side by side?
Mad Poster
Original Poster
#145 Old 7th Feb 2021 at 7:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mizuki_Ukitake
I'm not sure if I want shorter or shortest. Could you demonstrate the height difference between default, shorter, and shortest side by side?

Good point. I'll try and update the post soon with a comparison shot. I'll make sure the files are still up to date while I'm at it.
Be aware that the current screenshots, at the time of you asking and me replying now, are of the regualr "shorter" version compared to an Adult.

My deviantART, MTS Yearbook Origin ID = Alistu
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#146 Old 16th Feb 2021 at 11:12 AM
So cool!!! Thanks :D
Test Subject
#147 Old 3rd Mar 2021 at 10:50 AM
This looks great! One question though, will it mark up households as custom content in the gallery if you have a shorter teen in it?
Mad Poster
Original Poster
#148 Old 3rd Mar 2021 at 10:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Munchkin
This looks great! One question though, will it mark up households as custom content in the gallery if you have a shorter teen in it?

I'm afraid it will. So if you plan on sharing the households you create I would recommend removing this mod before you attempt to save and share the Sims to the Gallery.
As it applies a custom modifier there is no real way around this.

My deviantART, MTS Yearbook Origin ID = Alistu
Mad Poster
Original Poster
#149 Old 12th Mar 2021 at 5:43 PM
Updated today to try and address the issue some players have experienced where Teens do not return to Adult height upon aging up. If you've had this issue in your game then please download the updated files and give them a try. It's a bit hit and miss from my end as I haven't experienced the issue in my own game so I'm just going on what I can see in the code.

My deviantART, MTS Yearbook Origin ID = Alistu
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