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10 Fledgling Flats (modern base-game no-CC starter)

by Mootilda Posted 25th Jul 2008 at 5:51 AM - Updated 10th Apr 2011 at 3:08 PM by Mootilda : Alternative rooflines above the front door.
 
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rorsdors
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#2 Old 26th Jul 2008 at 1:19 PM
Really interesting design, looking forward to seeing it in game.Thanks
Evil Plumbob
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#3 Old 26th Jul 2008 at 3:06 PM
i agree with rorsdors
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CatOfEvilGenius
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#4 Old 26th Jul 2008 at 6:39 PM
Very creative, and I really like the backstory about the architecture students. If I run into any issues with the roof, I'll report them here...
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Psychosim
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#5 Old 27th Jul 2008 at 11:12 PM
very interesting roof! and I've no idea how you built foundation on top of the first story...
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#6 Old 28th Jul 2008 at 3:03 AM
Default How to create a "foundation roof"
Quote: Originally posted by psychosim0
very interesting roof! and I've no idea how you built foundation on top of the first story...
The game won't allow you to place a brick foundation on top of any other wall (including foundation walls).

So, I cheated by writing a program to swap out one style of wall for another; a very simple change in the lot package. My original plan was to swap out the normal walls on the roof levels and replace them with attic walls. To me, that makes a lot of sense and doesn't really feel like "cheating". After all, these really should be attic walls.

However, the game doesn't like attic walls without a "real" roof, so the lot would crash immediately. EA must not consider modern roofs to be "real". I looked over the walls which were available in the base game without any mods or CC and decided that the brick foundation was my best bet. To my surprise, the game doesn't mind having stacked brick foundations on top of a house.

I tested it quite a bit with all of the EPs, but wanted to make sure that other people were able to use this lot without any problems.

Soon, you too may be able to use this "cheat"... I've had some requests for this program, but I'll need to clean up the source code and user interface first.
thud
Test Subject
#7 Old 28th Jul 2008 at 9:45 PM
How did you manage to get the wall height lower than 4 on the roof? I thought walls where limited to quarter height (the default height of a foundation on level land) minimum?
Mootilda
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#8 Old 28th Jul 2008 at 10:10 PM Last edited by Mootilda : 28th Jul 2008 at 11:05 PM.
Default How to create a wall < 4 clicks
Quote: Originally posted by thud
How did you manage to get the wall height lower than 4 on the roof? I thought walls where limited to quarter height (the default height of a foundation on level land) minimum?
Another program which I wrote. Allows any number of clicks, including zero. I've also had requests for this program, but again it will take a while to bring it up to the standards that I require to release something.

Have you seen this tutorial for creating heights < 4 clicks?
http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=190663

The limit of 4 clicks may be required to provide stairs... since this is the roof, I don't need to worry about such things.
niol
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#9 Old 29th Jul 2008 at 9:01 AM Last edited by niol : 29th Jul 2008 at 9:39 AM.
Quote: Originally posted by Mootilda
The limit of 4 clicks may be required to provide stairs... since this is the roof, I don't need to worry about such things.


The minimum height for functional connecting/modular stairs is 2. 1 click for that stair type can form though it becomes dysfunctional and incomplete instances.

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=151575

PS:
Just updated info, users needn't wall.txt modding to play and see the unleashed foundation walls in imported lots made with such modding.


BTW, I love the roof design.
Psychosim
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#10 Old 12th Aug 2008 at 9:30 AM
oh, I forgot to check back... Thanks for the explanation!
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#11 Old 25th Apr 2009 at 12:48 AM
Quote: Originally posted by psychosim0
very interesting roof! and I've no idea how you built foundation on top of the first story...
A program which allows you to create "foundation roofs" is now available:
http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=327132

Quote: Originally posted by thud
How did you manage to get the wall height lower than 4 on the roof? I thought walls where limited to quarter height (the default height of a foundation on level land) minimum?
A program which will allow you to make walls which are less than 4 clicks high (including zero-height walls and negative-height walls) is now available:
http://www.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=327439
Originaltintin
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THANKS POST
#12 Old 10th Jun 2013 at 5:40 PM
Thanks for these awesome houses! They're a perfect replacement for those boxy modern houses in Pleasantview (like what Dina/Nina and Don started in)