MTS has all free content, all the time. Find out how YOU can help to keep it running. Tell me how...

Early 20th Century Names Replacement

by Tempscire Posted 16th Dec 2011 at 3:09 AM - Updated 16th Dec 2011 at 1:59 AM by Tempscire
24 Comments / replies (Who?) - 10 Feedback Posts, 14 Thanks Posts
In the midst of overhauling my Downloads folder to isolate all my vintage CC and pondering default replacements, I got the urge to put together my own NPC and townie name replacement for the period 'hood I will someday get a chance to complete.

All of the first names are drawn from the Social Security Administration's Popular Baby Names site. There are about 350 (give or take a few) for each gender. I mostly stuck to within the most popular 200 names, culled from random years ranging from 1900 to 1960. After all, in the 1940s (for example), you had lots of people walking around that had been born at the turn of the century and of course a whole lot more being born right then. There's classic names (John, William, Mary, Elizabeth) to the dated (Hiram, Hortense) to the kinda strange (Dixine, the male name of Jewell). Some sound more obviously late Victorian (Adelaide, Aldous, Thaddeus) while others are more solidly '50s (Barbara, Carl). Some names are technically duplicated in alternate forms, like Philip/Phillip, Robert/Bob, Francis/Frank/Frankie, because hey, some people are more formal than others. I also repeated the top 5 most common names a few times to reflect that...well...they were really common. Seriously, for decades those most common names stayed planted in their ranks.

A sample of female first names available:


A sample of male first names:


Last names, being a little more timeless, include all the most common surnames in the U.S. and whatever others I decided to throw in-- many were plucked from various WW2 books I have lying around. If you're familiar with either the book or the miniseries Band of Brothers, you may find yourself recognizing a bunch of those fellows' names if/when they pop up. (Ditto Mad Men.) There are only ~290 last names, which are unisex.

A sample of surnames:


If you reeeeally want to see all/most of the names, I've uploaded 3 Word docs in a .rar file here. They still have some color-coding implying where in the name ranks they came from (blue and purple are top 200; black is everything else). All the name types ('American' and foreign) are together within each.

You, too, could have your game spawn a Betty White townie!


________
The difference between the 2 files:
The "All-American" version sticks to names that are relatively culturally neutral for both first and last names. These are all the bland Johns, Marys, Smiths, and Joneses (and so forth).
  • Choose this one if: You don't want any chance of having an EAxian mash-up name. It bugs me to pretend a "Schwartz" or "Garcia" is less American than a "Smith," but this is the best way to avoid bad combos. For this period and within the confines of the game, it's more plausible for various immigrant nationalities and ethnicities to choose an American/English-sounding name and/or have the immigration authorities butcher their surnames into something more American than vice versa. Obviously there were/are lots of non-traditional names in use at the time, still, but this way you can take charge of creating them yourself and more accurately.

The International version does include names, first and last, that are really, really blatantly German/Italian/Spanish/Japanese/Eastern European/etc.
  • Choose this one if: You don't really care how the names might get jumbled up with each other or with wrong phenotypes, or you can easily pretend there's lots of cultural appropriation and intermarriage going on if you ever get, e.g., an Asian Sim named Hershel O'Neil. The list of names is still heavily weighted towards American and Western European names, but there's noticeably more variety than in the other version. (I actually did this one first and then removed the most obvious names to create the "All-American" one.)

________
Standard installation rules apply: you can only have 1 name replacement mod in at a time. For best results, leave the file titled Live.package. (Personally, I keep mine in its own labeled subfolder in a Default Replacements main folder to keep track of what type it is.) This does not alter the names of pre-existing townies and NPCs, only newly-spawned ones. Works best with a brand new neighborhood built off cleaned and emptied templates. There's a nice tutorial on getting to that point and then repopulating here.

Additional Credits:
Much thanks to Jordi for the first name mod, allowing people to edit it, and also basically giving an impromptu tutorial in the comments of that post.
SimPE, of course.

Type:
      Global Mods: Mods that change the way the game works without requiring any user intervention.

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
With internationality.rar | Includes variety of nationality names

Size: 4.0 KB · Downloads: 3,260 · 16th Dec 2011
4.0 KB 3,260 16th Dec 2011
All-American.rar | English/American-ish names only

Size: 3.8 KB · Downloads: 3,346 · 16th Dec 2011
3.8 KB 3,346 16th Dec 2011
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.

2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.

3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
  • Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows Vista/7/8/10: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows XP: Documents and Settings\(Current User Account)\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Mac: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads
  • Mac x64: /Library/Containers/com.aspyr.sims2.appstore/Data/Library/Application Support/Aspyr/The Sims 2/Downloads
Need more information?
 
24 Comments / Replies (Who?) - 9 Feedback Posts, 14 Thanks Posts
Hide Thanks Posts for this thread (Show only feedback)
Field Researcher
THANKS POST
#2 Old 16th Dec 2011 at 3:35 AM
Sounds fun. I think what I need to do is put in one of these for a while, let it populate, then do another, and then another, etc. should come up with some crazy variety. And since I regularly cull the townies, that should be very interesting. The better I like a townie, the more. Likely they are to. Be adopted into a family . . . Or marry into one. The less I like them . . . Well, I wasn't the one playing when two townies got struck by lightning . . .
Test Subject
#3 Old 16th Dec 2011 at 8:27 AM
Very neat. Though it tickles me to death that the screenshotted Sim ended up Betty White.

“Above all, remember that the most important thing you can take anywhere is not a Gucci bag or French-cut jeans; it's an open mind”
Gail Rubin Bereny

Test Subject
THANKS POST
#4 Old 16th Dec 2011 at 10:41 PM
I like these names, but will they work for any language or only if your game is English?
Forum Resident
Original Poster
#5 Old 17th Dec 2011 at 9:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xandrasama
Very neat. Though it tickles me to death that the screenshotted Sim ended up Betty White.

Exactly why I made sure she was one of my screenshots.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Orola
I like these names, but will they work for any language or only if your game is English?

I believe both files are currently for English language games only at the moment, unfortunately. What language do you need? I'm sure I could figure out adding the compatibility (or if not, at least be able to give you a definitive answer on it ).
Test Subject
#6 Old 17th Dec 2011 at 10:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempscire
Exactly why I made sure she was one of my screenshots.


I believe both files are currently for English language games only at the moment, unfortunately. What language do you need? I'm sure I could figure out adding the compatibility (or if not, at least be able to give you a definitive answer on it ).

My language is Dutch. It would be great if you could make versions for other languages too!
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#7 Old 18th Dec 2011 at 12:13 AM
I just want to say: Thank you so much for making all these name replacements!!! They definitely add a lot to your game, in an interesting and 'unexpected' way
Forum Resident
Original Poster
#8 Old 23rd Dec 2011 at 12:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Orola
My language is Dutch. It would be great if you could make versions for other languages too!

I'll definitely work on it, though (disclaimer) I have no idea when I'll get it done. I will make sure to PM you whenever I get it worked out!
Test Subject
#9 Old 26th Dec 2011 at 9:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempscire
I'll definitely work on it, though (disclaimer) I have no idea when I'll get it done. I will make sure to PM you whenever I get it worked out!

Thank you so much!
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#10 Old 31st Dec 2011 at 6:46 PM
Thanks, I really like more old fashioned names so I think I've found a replacement that will finally work for me
Lab Assistant
THANKS POST
#11 Old 10th Jun 2012 at 2:59 PM
Ada is my fave!
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#12 Old 21st Jun 2012 at 3:16 PM
That is funny, how the game generated a Betty White sim.
and nothing would be as bad as the combination "Goopy Gilscarbo".
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#13 Old 2nd Jul 2012 at 9:33 PM
My great grandma's maided name was White. <3 Only her first name was Barbara.
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#14 Old 4th Jul 2012 at 11:43 PM
Hendricks, Holloway and Harris? Mad Men indeed!
Lab Assistant
THANKS POST
#15 Old 6th Oct 2012 at 1:08 AM
Thanks! I'm not real wild about trendy names from the '60s on or about popular "kre8ive" spellings so this one's been my name replacement for almost a year now.
Instructor
THANKS POST
#16 Old 31st Dec 2012 at 9:52 PM
When babies are born , does this come up?
Mad Poster
THANKS POST
#17 Old 22nd Feb 2013 at 3:06 AM
I loved these! I appreciate all the work you put into this! Only one tiny problem ... "Frances" is a girl. "Francis" is a guy. (It's easy enough to change in Sim PE, however.)
Forum Resident
Original Poster
#18 Old 10th Mar 2013 at 7:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LillianAllen
When babies are born , does this come up?

Name mods only affect the names given to randomly-created townies and NPCs, not your playable Sims as they are born (and they only affect non-playables created after the mod was installed; pre-existing Sims won't have their names changed).

Quote:
Originally Posted by gazania
I loved these! I appreciate all the work you put into this! Only one tiny problem ... "Frances" is a girl. "Francis" is a guy. (It's easy enough to change in Sim PE, however.)

Hmm. It's the right way around in my source files. Where did you notice that mistake?
Lab Assistant
#19 Old 20th Mar 2013 at 4:27 PM
I had a neighbor named Francis who was female and there's plenty of men named Jessie and women named Jesse, then there's Frances J. so yeah.

Seems like there's tons of Berts being generated and there was a Bert Savoy even!
Forum Resident
Original Poster
#20 Old 17th Apr 2013 at 5:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moon Jaguar
I had a neighbor named Francis who was female and there's plenty of men named Jessie and women named Jesse, then there's Frances J. so yeah.

Hmmm. That's really strange. I honestly don't know what would be going wrong, since I also just checked the Jesses/Jessies and those are also (read: should be) the right away around... (Do you mean Frances J. Worthington? He's unrelated to this. )

I'll try to see if there's any way for me to fix this (not committing to any time frame, I'm afraid!). There's always SimPE or the batbox or the SimBlender, I think, for changing names easily. I'm sorry, guys.
Test Subject
#21 Old 23rd Jul 2013 at 9:20 PM
I can't get this to work, my sims still have the awful original names (aka, I'm still stuck with Goopy... :/). What am I doing wrong? :/
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#22 Old 6th Aug 2014 at 11:22 PM
Heheh, I found my nickname "Addie", and my mother's name "Esther".

Anyway, thank you for this!
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#23 Old 19th Dec 2014 at 7:36 AM
This mod is great for people like me, who have no creativity whatsoever. Thanks!
Instructor
THANKS POST
#24 Old 20th Apr 2015 at 8:05 AM
This is very clever of you, using the SSA's popular name list. I have studied the genealogy of my own family for many years now and this list is a very important resource for us. Thank you so very much for your insight and understading into the way we (Genealogists) like to play our legacy games. This will be very handy to have.
Forum Resident
#25 Old 8th Dec 2018 at 3:01 PM Last edited by sailorleontine6 : 8th Dec 2018 at 5:06 PM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Orola
My language is Dutch. It would be great if you could make versions for other languages too!



EN: WHAT?!?! I'M DUTCH TOO
i wanna have dutch names too but also english and other languages

i wanna start something new so i wanna name someone in like: French, spanish and other languages too

i just kinda hope the owner can do it in all languages so it will be usefull for someone who's languages is in Turkey, spanish, French and however but also someone like me who wants to try other languages names too
and then name the downloads called: names in all languages or something :D

NL: WAT?!?! IK BEN OOK EEN NEDERLANDER
ik wil ook Nederlandse namen hebben maar ook engelse en andere talen

ik wil iets nieuws beginnen dus ik wil iemand namen zoals in het frans, spaans en ook andere talen

ik hoop alleen dat de eigenaar in alle talen kan doen zodat het nuttig voor mensen wies talen in turks, spaans, frans en wat dan ook is maar ook iemand zoals ik die ook andere namen talen wil uitproberen
en dan noem de downloads genaamd: namen in alle talen of zoiets :D