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PTME - Emotional Overcharge (Social Interaction Tuning)

by FlorianPTME Posted 25th Oct 2014 at 11:31 PM - Updated 31st Jul 2016 at 3:24 AM by FlorianPTME
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Finally working with all patches (07/31/2016), all game packs, stuff packs, etc. available for the game - Please read additional FAQ for the release!

PTME - Emotional Overcharge (Release Version)

When I started playing "The Sims 4" I instantly fell in love with the emotion system. However, after just a couple of hours into the game I got incredibly bored. Every sim I met had pretty much the same behaviour and going out got dull very soon because everyone was only dancing, chatting, drinking and having a good time. While there is nothing wrong with having a good time per se I missed all the little dramas I encountered in Sims 3 with mods like the wonderful ones by NRaas Industries. Unfortunately nothing like NRaas is available for Sims 4 at the moment so I switched to rotational play for a while. But even in a new neighbourhood filled with handmade households and all their different relationships set up in hours of playtime my sims are usually dodging all the drama that could potentially occur.

Addition for Release (07/30/2016):

As most of you might have figured by now, this mod has been unsupported for quite a while. First I do apologize for that, please read the FAQ for a further statement. This release version is completely rewritten, tested for three weeks now and as far as I am concerned stable. From now on it should be updated on a regular basis if life does not get in the way.

So... What does the mod do?

First, many of the possible social interactions are disabled for the autonomy by default. If they don't get magically enabled later based maybe on the situation (I haven't found anything like that in the code though) we won't see any of them in the game. So I enabled pretty much all of them. Also the mood preference settings for the different interactions are quite... "flattened" in my opinion. So there is still a very high chance that a sim would say enough friendly things to push everyone back in the happy mood/pleasant conversation state as soon as possible. So I also changed pretty much every interaction to a much more emotional state dependent setting (meaning angry sims would more likely pick a mean action over a friendly one). I also tuned different buffs like jealousy and the invisible ones from traits (they also provide bonus points for certain interactions) to some more aggressive values than before.

That means everyone goes ballistic now?

No. It might sound more dramatic and game changing than it actually is.There is still an okay-ish enough chance that sims will pick an interaction that actually settles the situation instead of pushing it further. But sims that are feeling flirty should prefer flirting over an engaging story way more than before and angry sims with mean and evil traits probably won't tell a lot of jokes. Also sims have a tendency to occationally walk away from a situation to read a book or watch some TV so you still have to push for some drama (I might address that in a future version if I can figure out how to tune that). While I had some spectacular results with sims fighting and dying of anger because they couldn't resolve their issues in time it's nothing you should expect to see regularly.

It's a Beta, is it a good idea to use it?

I tested the mod with the latest patch, it works and produces quite pleasing results (at least how I intended it work). But I changed A LOT so feel free to save your game before you install the mod. In its current state it works well enough for now, so I'd like to share it with the community. If you don't like it, don't use it. If you like it and have some ideas I will be happy to hear them. I tested the mod with different sims in different situations and I quite like the results I got. But after all it is a simulation so I can't promise that nothing weird will ever happen.

Addition for Release (07/30/2016):

Technically it's not a Beta anymore but I left this part as it is because it still keeps its relevance. Please save your game and use at your own risk.

Are there any known issues with the mod?

Not exactly that I am aware of. I am using this mod since I started developing it and the only real instability has been removed with version 0.04 Alpha. It's getting very good feedback from the community so far and I am experiencing nothing strange in my own game during my play sessions.

However, some (but very few) players have reported that it *might* cause a little weirdness when it comes to finding a place to sit when your sims are dining but in my opinion this feels more like a base game glitch. Please check out the comments for more information. If someone can provide me with a save game file that actually is able to reproduce the problem I'd be happy to debug it. But so far I can't confirm this is related to this mod.

Ok, how do I install it?

It's only a tuning mod so unpack the .rar file and install the package. Right now there is no unpackaged version.

Wait, there are new versions now? And where are the old ones?

Since I moved this mod to the release stage I have removed all other versions. If you like to check out the old ones for whatever reason please send me a message. Here is the version history:


In my own play sessions the mod is working very well and everything *seems* to be stable so please try the new version if you like and report your experience. There is also an additional hardcore edition now to unlock more dramatic interactions like "try for baby", "propose", "break up" and "divorce". These things shouldn't appear very often but please use this at your own risk!

Addition for Release (07/30/2016):

Of course do not use any other versions except the new one, I kept this part just for the history.

How do I know if it works?

You should see sims using interactions that fit their mood, their traits and their relationship to your sim a lot better than before. If you want to be really sure then orchestrate an extreme situation like two married sims that are home alone and both have the passionate moodlet. Or make an evil/mean sim, let him despise another one, get both angry and let them meet again. There should definitely be a difference although you might want to save your game and try it out a couple of times (randomness is always a decent factor).

Will my sims WooHoo autonomously?

Yeah, that can happen. They gotta be in the right mood with the right person though. I don't think it can happen when many other sims are around although it should be possible in theory. But your sims won't make any life changing decisions like getting married or divorced and they won't get pregnant (at least not in the basic edition).

I am using the mod but now some things happen that I don't like because they are... (insert complaint)

The whole system is somewhat complicated. To make the sims do something autonomously based on a rule set you like to establish you have to balance pretty much every interaction regarding their mood preferences and still there is a good amount of randomness involved. If you have some comments though I will be happy to look into it. Also I'd like to add that this mod is way more about enabling actions than disabling them from the autonomy. So if you want the full control of your sims the whole time this is probably not the right mod for you.

Will it be incompatible with other mods?

The mod will basically conflict with every mod that tunes the values of buffs from moods, traits and pretty much every social interaction I could find. You will find a complete list at the end of the post.

Addition for Release (07/30/2016):

I did not use any other mods for my three week test except MC Command Center but this works just fine.

Is there nothing I can do about that?

Well, if you have several mods you could repack them to a single one using S4PE. I am using the mod myself and it works well together with Zerbu's buff changes for example. If your sims perform certain interactions now that you don't like to see them do please feel free to unpack the mod, delete everything you don't like (interactions are easy to find, you can use Windows Grep to do a search in all the files) and repack it.

Can I get a complete list of all the overwritten XML files please?

Of course! You can find the files in the folders "buff" and "interaction". They are many I know - but if you are worried about conflicting mods you should try the method mentioned above. Load my package into S4PE and then all the packages you want mine to be overwritten with. Then save it as a complete new mod and use this instead. Even if you change some resources I use you should still see some good results (a technical thread about this mod can be found in the modding forum). Just give it a try.


Will you do different flavors of the mod like... (insert variation here)

Well, I could... But it's around 500 files to tune so... probably not. But please feel free to comment and share your ideas. It is in the beta stage now so I am very open for your suggestions.

Will you continue to develop the mod?

I won't be stopping playing Sims 4 any time soon. So yes, I will update the mod with every new patch until it becomes obsolete because either Maxis does a complete overhaul or another brilliant mod is released. Because it's beta now I won't add too many new features at the moment but if you have some ideas then let me know in the comments.

Addition for Release (07/30/2016):

Well, apparently that was not exactly true. Please refer here:

FAQ for Release

Technically these questions have not been very frequently, meaning at all. But I imagine these might be the questions one could have regarding the state of the mod at the moment.



I hope you enjoy! Feel free to share your ideas!


Additional Credits:
- S4PE (https://github.com/Sims4Group/Sims4Tools)
- Sims4XMLExtractor by Velocitygrass (http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=534316)
- Notepad++ (http://notepad-plus-plus.org)
- Windows Grep (http://www.wingrep.com)
- weebl_101 for keeping this alive in my absence

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

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Test Subject
#301 Old 15th Sep 2016 at 8:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelFrouk
I am using MCC and PTME - Emotional Overcharge - Hardcore Edition v1.00. I've got the same problem as Morphar. After the latest patch (1.22.22.1020) I had 4 llamas showing instead of 1, like before the patch. Basic troubleshooting let me to believe the PTME file is the one who is giving this problem. When I place all files but this one back, the problem is gone.

i've also found these four llamas Dx really wanted to use this mod too
Scholar
#302 Old 15th Sep 2016 at 3:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toastbeef
i've also found these four llamas Dx really wanted to use this mod too


Welcome to the gang of three!

In my picture here you can also see an emty bubble without the llama. Have you seen that too?
http://modthesims.info/download.php...856#post5065856

It is the first that comes up after the first short interaction between two sims. Then the llamas start coming. Is it the same for you?
Have you tested with only this mod installed?

Is your game in english or other language?
Scholar
#303 Old 15th Sep 2016 at 4:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morphar
Welcome to the gang of three!

In my picture here you can also see an emty bubble without the llama. Have you seen that too?
http://modthesims.info/download.php...856#post5065856

It is the first that comes up after the first short interaction between two sims. Then the llamas start coming. Is it the same for you?
Have you tested with only this mod installed?

Is your game in english or other language?


Edit:
You can use the mod though. I have not seen any problems by clicking these llamas.
Test Subject
#304 Old 19th Sep 2016 at 1:05 AM
I think this mod is conflicting with Dine Out. Sims won't stay seated at their tables and will pick up their food and go eat elsewhere.
Scholar
#305 Old 20th Sep 2016 at 12:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Draconicrose
I think this mod is conflicting with Dine Out. Sims won't stay seated at their tables and will pick up their food and go eat elsewhere.


...and if you remove it they will?
Test Subject
#306 Old 22nd Sep 2016 at 3:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morphar
...and if you remove it they will?

Yes. Worth noting I have 'less musical chairs' installed though. Don't know why I didn't mention that.
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#307 Old 4th Oct 2016 at 2:26 AM
Hey your mod is great, but perhaps you could make it compatible with "Simstopics All Walkstyles Disabled"?
That mod disables some weird walkstyles but with this mod they're enabled again, if you could make it compatible that would be great...
Test Subject
#308 Old 22nd Oct 2016 at 12:20 AM
Is this mod still working?
Test Subject
#309 Old 29th Oct 2016 at 3:12 AM
My sims don't seem to eat autonomously anymore.
Test Subject
#310 Old 31st Oct 2016 at 8:31 PM
After the 1.24 update I had two blank bubbles coming up in my sims computer menu, which went away after I pulled this mod. I am not certain if it was a mod conflict with another mod or this one only though. In the Socialize area of the computer menu "chat" would not appear. In the Web area of the computer menu I had a blank bubble for "browse art" with a larger bubble when you hovered over it that said something about needing to find inspiration by appreciating other peoples work.
Scholar
#311 Old 1st Nov 2016 at 5:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by roomouse
After the 1.24 update I had two blank bubbles coming up in my sims computer menu, which went away after I pulled this mod. I am not certain if it was a mod conflict with another mod or this one only though. In the Socialize area of the computer menu "chat" would not appear. In the Web area of the computer menu I had a blank bubble for "browse art" with a larger bubble when you hovered over it that said something about needing to find inspiration by appreciating other peoples work.


You are the fourth to, like me, have this error. See posts above.
Beside that the mod will probably have problems with the Oct 26 patch.
With over 500 files to check I don't think this mod is possible to support.
I have decided to not use it as the auther seems not to care or keep his promise to support it.
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#312 Old 3rd Nov 2016 at 9:50 PM
I can confirm that the empty bubbles come from this mod. After installing City Living, I experienced the empty speech bubbles and took out all of my mods except for this one. When I took this one out too, the problem was gone.
Lab Assistant
#313 Old 7th Nov 2016 at 7:33 PM
I think its safe to assume this mod is broken, I had just discovered this mod yesterday and installed it as I have seen a few recent people posting, I have the blank bubbles as well, but I also have issues "practicing speech" using the mirror, only when this mod is installed.If anyone knows of a similiar mod, please link me.I play a female character and don't want her proposing.
Test Subject
#314 Old 9th Nov 2016 at 5:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by springfairy556
I think its safe to assume this mod is broken, I had just discovered this mod yesterday and installed it as I have seen a few recent people posting, I have the blank bubbles as well, but I also have issues "practicing speech" using the mirror, only when this mod is installed.If anyone knows of a similiar mod, please link me.I play a female character and don't want her proposing.


Mc Command Center enables autonomous proposals as well, though it didn't happen much for me.
Test Subject
#315 Old 30th Dec 2016 at 6:16 PM
is this mod still working?
Test Subject
#316 Old 3rd Jan 2017 at 10:04 PM
just confirming that after sweeping through my mods, this was the conflicting one that made my speech bubbles and such blank with conflicting errors!
Instructor
THANKS POST
#317 Old 13th Jan 2017 at 11:00 PM
yep needed to delete it, because it showed many speech bubbles empty. Also I had to delete the UI cheat mod version 1.7, since the character creation does not work when it is inside the mod folder. In fact I could only force quit the game. After removing this mod it worked flawlessly, but I would love to have all these autonomous interactions back in!
Lab Assistant
#318 Old 14th Jan 2017 at 10:17 AM
Hopefully this mod can be updated!
Lab Assistant
#319 Old 16th Jan 2017 at 7:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cisje
Mc Command Center enables autonomous proposals as well, though it didn't happen much for me.


I'm not sure how to use MC Command though.lol
Lab Assistant
#320 Old 23rd Mar 2017 at 9:32 PM
Can someone please update this? ;-;
Top Secret Researcher
#321 Old 13th May 2017 at 6:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by springfairy556
I'm not sure how to use MC Command though.lol


I have an autonomous proposal mod that does more than just enabling autonomy if your interested.
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#322 Old 17th Jul 2017 at 2:58 PM
Upgrade please
Test Subject
#323 Old 31st Mar 2019 at 2:49 PM
Does this mod work anymore? Every time I use it I get one of those orange error boxes from MCCC, but when I remove this mod they stop. Is it just outdated or do I need to play around with removing my other mods?
Scholar
#324 Old 31st Mar 2019 at 8:02 PM
This replaces and extend the mod:
http://modthesims.info/d/594573/hav...ity-please.html
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