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Picked upload! Pond & Sea Water Overhaul

by Voeille Posted 1st Jan 2017 at 3:58 PM - Updated 12th Jan 2017 at 1:29 PM by Voeille
214 Comments / replies (Who?) - 12 Feedback Posts, 2 Thanks Posts
Picked Upload! This is a picked upload! It showcases some of the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.
Update 8/01/2017: I added a version that works properly for Mac users. Huge thanks to Criquette for testing

I’ve always liked the pond water from Castaway Stories, I consider it as the best and the most realistic in the whole Sims series. Compared to that the default pond water in TS2 looks quite terrible with its unnatural intense blue colour and no water reflections at all. A solution to that was Moi’s Water Mod Series replacing the pond water with pool water, but it wasn’t perfect either, it was too blue and too transparent, with too subtle reflections.
The other thing I like about CS is that the sea water visible from non-beach lots looks nice and no different to beach ones, while in TS2 it’s not even water, just a weird solid blue surface with some transparency. Ocean water visible from beach lots wasn’t bad in TS2, but it seemed too transparent, which made it seem a bit artificial. And while the water in the neighbourhood view was essentially fine, it wasn’t really what I wanted.

To solve those problems described above I edited Maxis shaders so I finally have properly looking water in all places, with animations and reflections. The shaders are from CS, modified by me so they work properly and look nice in TS2 (just the copy-paste method didn’t work, crazy things happened when I did that, but after working on those shaders for a while everything seems fine now). So, what does this mod actually do?
  • I changed the ocean water visible from beach lots so the water seems less transparent depending on the camera angle (I think I managed to show that well in the pictures), and doesn’t have blue tint so its colour depends on the sky colour and other things it reflects. For some reason the beach lot ocean water works different to any other water and it keeps the blue sky colour when it’s raining and snowing.
  • The pond water is completely different to the default one, and similar to the ocean one, but it changes its colour with weather, and I made it act like lake water would instead of crazily waving like sea water. Needs a pool on the lot to work properly.
  • The sea water visible from non-beach lots is similar to it too – animated and with reflections. Needs a pool on the lot to work properly.
  • The sea water in the neighbourhood view is changed too to the wavy one, so it has a more natural look.
  • This mod replaces Maxis shaders with the instances 0xFF1AFA1C and 0xFF3A262A, and the group 0x1C0532FA.

I mentioned that the pond water and sea water for non-beach lots needs a pool on the lot to work properly. It doesn’t mean that it will make the universe to implode if you don’t place one, but the water will be black, without reflections. The pond needs two 1x1 pools in its opposite ‘corners’ (with only one the reflections will sometimes act a bit strange), for the sea water one will be enough, but sadly, the reflections will sometimes act weird, because sea can’t be surrounded by a pool like a pond can. I showed in the pictures how to place the pool properly and how to hide it, and an example of a strange reflection on the sea water.

Conflicts:
Anything that modifies those shaders I mentioned; the only mods I can think of are Moi’s Water Mod Series.
Edit: Another conflict is this mod (info by nuidyaforever).
• Edit: A new version of that mod includes mine and can be downloaded here. Thanks!
Edit: This mod will conflict with mine as well (info by cheezypuff121P).

Known Bugs:
  • The pond water and the sea water visible from non-beach lots is black without a pool on the lot. This is obviously solved by placing a pool.
  • The sea water visible from non-beach lots will sometimes have strange reflections, depending on the camera angle and movement. On the pond water this can be solved by placing a pool in a special way (shown in the pictures), but sadly, that’s impossible with the sea water.

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 2
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
pondWater.rar | Description: For Windows users only. 8.3 KB 30,218 1st Jan 2017
seaWater.rar | Description: For Windows users only. 9.3 KB 29,132 1st Jan 2017
pondWaterMAC.rar | Description: For Mac users only. 8.4 KB 3,620 8th Jan 2017
seaWaterMAC.rar | Description: For Mac users only. 9.4 KB 3,437 8th Jan 2017
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.


  • Basic Download and Install Instructions:
1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.

2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.

3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
  • Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows Vista/7/8/10: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows XP: Documents and Settings\(Current User Account)\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Mac: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads
  • Mac x64: /Library/Containers/com.aspyr.sims2.appstore/Data/Library/Application Support/Aspyr/The Sims 2/Downloads
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Test Subject
#201 Old 29th Mar 2018 at 8:09 PM
the sea water looks like this:
https://imgur.com/a/Nmctp
Lab Assistant
#202 Old 31st Mar 2018 at 9:13 AM
@Yvelotic2001 @Annorah please let me know if you find a solution.
Field Researcher
#203 Old 31st Mar 2018 at 9:42 AM
@Aileena I have found a solution a while ago, but unfortunately, I am not sure what course of action I took. One day, I just placed the pool tiles and BAM, amazing water. I know I followed the indications in post #41 and that I made sure that UseShaders was set to true... Since I have a UserStartup.cheat file, I added that to the list. I might have done something else, but honestly, I cannot remember. It was months ago and the fact that this mod worked in the end was a surprise for me.
Field Researcher
#204 Old 21st Apr 2018 at 2:09 PM Last edited by Yvelotic2001 : 4th Oct 2019 at 6:28 PM.
@Annorah @Aileena
It's fixed for me! I changed my Graphics Rules.sgr file to the one Voeille provided in a previous post, now the water is working fine. Don't forget to change "boolprop simpleTerrain true" to "false" in the Graphics File - there are three instances where you have to change it - or the texture will be a bit weird.
Test Subject
#205 Old 8th May 2018 at 9:33 PM


Why is it pink? I placed the pool, AND EVEN ADDED TWO MORE! Help!
Test Subject
#206 Old 19th Jul 2018 at 6:52 PM
My water work...but...why some lots/decoration it's pink flashing now?



Test Subject
#207 Old 21st Jul 2018 at 7:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xirem26
My water work...but...why some lots/decoration it's pink flashing now?




If you have installed "Better Nightlife" by criquette, the instruction says "You’ll need to remove Voeille’s ‘seaWater.package’ file from downloads folder". Try to use search to your "Downloads" folder. It helped me with the same problem.
Test Subject
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THANKS POST
#208 Old 25th Aug 2018 at 2:59 PM
@Voeille - First of all, thank you for your hard work! This is amazing!

Question, though: Why does the water appear black without a swimming pool tile? I was wondering about this in case I don't have a place for the sp tile, why can't the water just show up as blue instead of black? Is it possible to change the (default?) colour somehow?
Test Subject
#209 Old 29th Nov 2018 at 9:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darina Rose
My sea water and ponds, unfortunately, is absolutely black, too. And on the beach lots too!!! None of the above conflict modes I seem to have, if only there is something in the Elsewhere CUSTOM content or Water-Mod House. Maybe, Woodland park with swimmable lake or water terrains, invisible tile or invisible pond? I don't have the sky-fix and Moi's water replacement. I have Intel HD Graphics 3000 integrated, settings are taken from LeeFish. There remains only the long-suffering method of 50/50. Pirates of Dark Water, but it's my fault, probably


I knew that I had problems because of two things: I play on integrated graphics using a special graphic rules file for Intel MedCPU, and put the standard graphics quality settings in the game, not the maximum, so I had to fix in EA Games \ The Sims 2 Collection \ The Sims 2 M & G Stuff \ TSData \ Res \ Config \ GraphicRules.sgr all values boolProp EnableOceanReflection to true. And yet - most important - there was a conflict with DanTheMann AsphaltRoads-Full replacement. The sea and the ponds were black because of this. I remove the replacement and now my water is fine! Maybe someone will help this information.
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#210 Old 17th Jan 2019 at 10:10 AM
Thank you so much for this! ♥
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retired moderator
#211 Old 31st Mar 2019 at 8:06 AM
Other people probably know this already, but I was trying things to stop pink flashing and without really thinking added the cheat boolprop useshaders false to my cheat file in the automatically on section. Took me a few days to figure out why my water was black.

@M.M.A.A. On lots with little space I draw a tile of pool water then hit the back arrow, the water stays looking nice unless I reload the lot.

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Mad Poster
#212 Old 31st Mar 2019 at 3:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by M.M.A.A.
Question, though: Why does the water appear black without a swimming pool tile? I was wondering about this in case I don't have a place for the sp tile, why can't the water just show up as blue instead of black? Is it possible to change the (default?) colour somehow?

Because this mod uses the pool reflection to create reflection on your pond water. No pool, no reflection.
You can place a 1x1 pool square inside your house and place a rug or anything else on top (with move objects on) to hide it, if you have no room outside.
I do this on my tiny lots.

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Lab Assistant
#213 Old 6th Aug 2019 at 2:33 AM
Odd. The mod works as you should expect, except for the fact that in neighborhood view, my ponds turn invisible, leaving the divot and a kinda ghostly haze over it.

I *am* using a map that has no ocean. I wonder if that has to do with it at all.
Test Subject
#214 Old 6th Jun 2020 at 8:29 PM
ok so basically my ponds and ocean water r black no matter what i do. I think I tried everything i saw in this comment thread
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