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Fewer Hobby Wants

by SnorkackSearcher Posted 23rd Mar 2017 at 1:10 AM - Updated 31st Mar 2017 at 5:57 PM by SnorkackSearcher : Fixed file names
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31st March 2017: I'd accidently swapped the file names for the latest two flavours. Please re-download to get the correct flavour!

28th March 2017: Two new flavours added. Both are only available for M&G.

"No Blog about Hobby Wants & Personality Restrictions" restricts certain hobby wants as in the pervious personality flavour, but leaves the "Talk about Hobby" wants intact.
"Personality Restrictions Only" is the same again, but leaves both the "Talk about Hobby" and the various "Blog about (Hobby)" wants intact.

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I love FreeTime. I love the secondary aspirations, I love all the activities and I love the hobby enthusiasm! But the thing that I really didn't love was the way that wants for hobbies could so easily drown out other wants. Every morning, sims with high enthusiasm would roll wants to talk and blog about their hobbies. Once you've added in the other hobby wants, this can leave no room for non-hobby wants at all!

After spending a long time searching for a mod that prevented sims from being overrun with these wants, I decided to make one myself. During my search I found a lot of other people looking for the same thing, so I thought I should share.

The purpose of the mod is to reduce the number of hobby wants by stopping certain wants from being triggered. The rest of the hobby system is unaffected. There are three flavours of the mod, in two different game compatibility versions. You can only have one of them.



"No Talk or Blog about Hobby Wants" will stop the "Talk about Hobby" and the various "Blog about (Hobby)" wants from being triggered.

"No Talk or Blog about Hobby Wants & Fewer Nature Wants" will also remove the "Catch Butterflies/Fireflies" and "Birdwatch" wants, as sims with high nature enthusiasm still seemed to have a lot of hobby wants even without "Talk/Blog about Hobby".

"No Talk or Blog about Hobby Wants & Personality Restrictions" is more complex, and will further restrict certain hobby wants. The Arts & Crafts want "Get Picture Taken" is restricted to outgoing sims and the Film & Literature want "Write Novel" is for serious sims. For the Nature hobby, "Go Hiking" is for active sims, "Birdwatch" is for shy sims, "Hunt for Bugs" is for serious sims and "Catch Butterflies/Fireflies" is for playful sims.



Each flavour of the mod comes in two game versions for compatibility. The "AL Only" versions are for people who have Apartment Life but not Mansion & Garden Stuff. The "M&G" versions are for people who either have both AL and M&G, or who only have M&G. People with the Ultimate Collection should therefore use the M&G version.

I've also included text files containing my changes- see "Technical Details" for how to use these.

The mod doesn't delete any wants from the game, it only prevents them from being rolled, so if any of your sims have the wants when you first load the mod the wants will still function as normal.


Compatibility

Requires either AL (for the AL only version) or M&G (M&G version) or both (M&G version). Other than that, it is compatible with all other EPs and SPs but does not require any. If you only have FreeTime, see "Technical Details" for instructions on how to create your own version.

You can only have one version of the WantTrees.package in your game, so this will conflict with any other replacement, such as syberspunk's Teen Enabled Adult Wants. I'm not aware of any other WantTree edits compatible with AL/M&G.

The mod should not conflict with mods that alter wants without replacing the WantTrees.package, such as Pescado's "wfsanity" mod. I've been running the personality version of my mod alongside wfsanity for several months now without any problems. Any mod that alters the hobby wants would override my changes, but to my knowledge there are no mods that do this.


Installation

The WantTrees.package included in each download must replace the existing WantTrees.package in your installation folder (not your usual downloads folder).

Important: make a backup of the original file first in case you later want to revert the changes.

The location will be different depending on your latest game.

For AL only:
C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\The Sims 2 Apartment Life\TSData\Res\Wants

For M&G:
C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\The Sims 2 Mansion and Garden Stuff\TSData\Res\Wants

For UC:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection\Fun with Pets\SP9\TSData\Res\Wants

For the Store Edition:
C:\Program Files (x86)\EA GAMES\The Sims 2 Store Edition\TSData\Res\Wants

If you want to remove the mod, delete my version and replace it with your original backup.


Warnings

Remember to back up your original file! If you fail to back up the original and then later decide to remove the mod you will need to re-install your game.

This is an edit of a core file, so may have more potential risk than other mods. The way I've edited the package should reduce this risk, as no data is actually deleted from the game, just hidden. However, this is still a mod that you use at your own risk, and you should always test new mods out in a testing hood first.

In particular, take care if you choose to edit the file yourself, and don't make changes you're not confident about.


Technical Details

Each hobby has its own tree within the WantTrees.package. Instance numbers for these can be found in the "Text Files" download.

To prevent the wants from being rolled, I edited the age restrictions for each want to be false for each life stage. The wants will now be prevented from rolling for all ages in the same way that they were previously blocked for toddlers.

To make your own version, find each of the hobby want trees and change the age settings for each want you are removing. If the "superZero" setting is ever set to false you will need to change it to true.

It's important to remove each version of the same want, or the settings will conflict and your sims will have blank want panels. So, for instance, you can't decide that the Science hobby should be the only one able to trigger "Talk about Hobby". The "Blog about (Hobby)" wants are unique and can therefore have different settings from each other.

In order to restrict by personality, change the "superZero" setting to true then change one personality trait to true and the others to false. If "superZero" is set to false the personality settings will only weight the chances of the want rolling, but I don't know the details of this. "Talk about Hobby" and the various "Blog about (Hobby)" wants are apparently weighted for outgoing and shy sims respectively, but from my experience in-game this appears to be a very weak (or possibly inactive) weighting.

You can find the text containing my changes in the downloads section. This doesn't change between versions, so you can use it to replace the want trees in FT-only games.

As an aside, I'd recommend having a look through the want trees- there are some interesting details there. For example, did you know that being left at the altar can trigger a want to get a dog or cat? Such a sad little detail!

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      Global Mods: Mods that change the way the game works without requiring any user intervention.

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

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M&G - Personality Restrictions Only.rar | MG compatible. Restricts several hobby wants by personality. Talk about Hobby and Blog about (Hobby) are left intact.

Size: 969.1 KB · Downloads: 3,935 · 31st Mar 2017
969.1 KB 3,935 31st Mar 2017
M&G - No Blog about Hobby Wants & Personality Restrictions.rar | MG compatible. Removes Blog about (Hobby) and restricts several other hobby wants by personality. Talk about Hobby is left intact.

Size: 949.8 KB · Downloads: 1,799 · 31st Mar 2017
949.8 KB 1,799 31st Mar 2017
Text Files.rar | Contains the code necessary to edit your own WantTrees.package

Size: 76.6 KB · Downloads: 676 · 23rd Mar 2017
76.6 KB 676 23rd Mar 2017
M&G - No Talk or Blog about Hobby Wants.rar | MG compatible. Removes Talk about Hobby and Blog about (Hobby).

Size: 950.1 KB · Downloads: 741 · 23rd Mar 2017
950.1 KB 741 23rd Mar 2017
M&G - No Talk or Blog about Hobby Wants & Personality Restrictions.rar | MG compatible. Removes Talk about Hobby and Blog about (Hobby) and restricts several other hobby wants by personality.

Size: 950.1 KB · Downloads: 6,766 · 23rd Mar 2017
950.1 KB 6,766 23rd Mar 2017
M&G - No Talk or Blog about Hobby Wants & Fewer Nature Wants.rar | MG compatible. Removes Talk about Hobby, Blog about (Hobby), Catch Butterflies/Fireflies and Birdwatch.

Size: 948.9 KB · Downloads: 1,595 · 23rd Mar 2017
948.9 KB 1,595 23rd Mar 2017
AL Only - No Talk or Blog about Hobby Wants.rar | AL-only compatible. Removes Talk about Hobby and Blog about (Hobby).

Size: 948.4 KB · Downloads: 327 · 23rd Mar 2017
948.4 KB 327 23rd Mar 2017
AL Only - No Talk or Blog about Hobby Wants & Personality Restrictions.rar | AL-only compatible. Removes Talk about Hobby and Blog about (Hobby) and restricts several other hobby wants by personality.

Size: 948.4 KB · Downloads: 901 · 23rd Mar 2017
948.4 KB 901 23rd Mar 2017
AL Only - No Talk or Blog about Hobby Wants & Fewer Nature Wants.rar | AL-only compatible. Removes Talk about Hobby, Blog about (Hobby), Catch Butterflies/Fireflies and Birdwatch.

Size: 948.4 KB · Downloads: 958 · 23rd Mar 2017
948.4 KB 958 23rd Mar 2017
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Mad Poster
#26 Old 26th Mar 2017 at 3:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SnorkackSearcher
Ah, great! Just to check- is the path C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\The Sims 2 Store Edition\TSData\Res\Wants ? I'll add it into the instructions.

Not exactly, C:\Program Files (x86)\EA GAMES\The Sims 2 Store Edition\TSData\Res\Wants
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#27 Old 26th Mar 2017 at 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SnorkackSearcher
It's actually below- I've pasted an example of a single want in the spoiler. If you haven't had a look at it in an XML viewer yet, that might help (http://www.wikihow.com/View-XML-Files).


Thank you, I really appreciate it I've been away for the weekend, but sometime this week my want trees is going to get a serious makeover

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#28 Old 28th Mar 2017 at 12:25 AM
@simsfreq and @Voeille - your requested flavours have been added to the main page
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#29 Old 28th Mar 2017 at 12:42 AM
Thank you so much

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#30 Old 28th Mar 2017 at 11:11 AM
Thank you! That's very kind.
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#31 Old 29th Mar 2017 at 5:32 AM
Registered an account just to say THANK YOU ever so much for making this mod. The hobby spam was so boring that I found myself actively strategizing how to keep my sims' enthusiasm down, which was just absurd (and fairly futile since they rush over to their blog the moment your back's turned, undoing all your hard work). This is a huge quality-of-life improvement.
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#32 Old 31st Mar 2017 at 5:47 AM
@SnorkackSearcher
It doesn’t seem to work for me, the blog about hobby want still appears. I put it into the Wants folder for M&G, and then additionally into all EP folders, but it didn’t do anything. Tomorrow I’ll try to put it into the SP folders too. The old WantTrees is still in the folders, but I renamed it to oldWantTrees and changed the extension from package to packag, so the game shouldn’t be able to read it, but I’ll also try moving it somewhere else. I don’t have more ideas than those though.

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#33 Old 31st Mar 2017 at 6:01 PM
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@SnorkackSearcher
It doesn’t seem to work for me, the blog about hobby want still appears. I put it into the Wants folder for M&G, and then additionally into all EP folders, but it didn’t do anything. Tomorrow I’ll try to put it into the SP folders too. The old WantTrees is still in the folders, but I renamed it to oldWantTrees and changed the extension from package to packag, so the game shouldn’t be able to read it, but I’ll also try moving it somewhere else. I don’t have more ideas than those though.


I've found the issue- I'd swapped the file names for the flavours! It should be fixed now if you re-download. @simsfreq I'm afraid you'll have the wrong flavour too, so please re-download.
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#34 Old 31st Mar 2017 at 6:36 PM
Thanks!
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#35 Old 1st Apr 2017 at 6:22 PM
Thanks, I’ll redownload

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#36 Old 24th Dec 2017 at 10:15 PM
When I downloaded the personality favor for M&G and replaced the wants tree file, My sims will still get the "Talk about and blog about hobby wants and several ones"
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#37 Old 27th Dec 2017 at 8:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SimFanboi
When I downloaded the personality favor for M&G and replaced the wants tree file, My sims will still get the "Talk about and blog about hobby wants and several ones"


Hi! Can I confirm the address of the folder you've replaced the file in? It should be either:

C:\Program Files (x86)\EA GAMES\The Sims 2 Store Edition\TSData\Res\Wants (if you have the store edition it should be here even if you have M&G)
C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\The Sims 2 Mansion and Garden Stuff\TSData\Res\Wants (if you have M&G on disk but not the store edition)
or C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection\Fun with Pets\SP9\TSData\Res\Wants (if you have the Ultimate Collection)

I've attached a screenshot of my folder (I'm using the Ultimate Collection).
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#38 Old 23rd Nov 2018 at 4:10 PM
Thanks with all of my heart...
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#39 Old 12th Feb 2019 at 9:50 PM
Is this compatible with Pescado's wfsanity? (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/s...pic,8273.0.html) I'd like to have his and one of yours in my game, still haven't decided on the flavour, the personality one looks interesting, but I fear it might be too restrictive, the nature one might be enough. (I reinstalled TS2 after years and I still remember SO.MANY.FREAKING.NATURE.WANTS) His mod doesn't alter core game files, though...? So it should work?
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#40 Old 12th Feb 2019 at 10:02 PM
Wonderful and huge improvement for the game ! Don't know how I missed that ! I think I'll try to make my own but it seems quite difficult to do ...
Anyway, thanks !!!
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#41 Old 24th Mar 2019 at 10:38 PM Last edited by Talamaine : 25th Mar 2019 at 12:13 AM. Reason: further information
I was just thinking how i hate all the hobby wants. But like the hobbies themselves. Thanks! Your work is very much appreciated!

Edit: I just loaded Sims 2 and tried it out. Oh man, Thank you so much! This is a life and sanity saver. Night and day difference! I am actually getting normal wants now. Thank you again!
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#42 Old 17th Aug 2021 at 3:00 PM
Hi, I really like your mod! Although, I think I've noticed a problem. Whenever I have it installed, it seems to suppress some university related wants; specifically the Declare Major want and fear.
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