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Found Family

by kestrellyn Posted 14th Nov 2018 at 1:55 AM - Updated 10th Nov 2020 at 10:56 PM by kestrellyn
24 Comments / replies (Who?) - 7 Feedback Posts, 16 Thanks Posts
Update:
  • Stopped the interaction from appearing as a self-interaction. Whoops.
  • Added version compatible with extendedfamilypartial.

Do you have sims who are raised by more than two parents, but annoyingly the game does not consider the non-biological parents to be family? Or "siblings" who were raised together but don't technically share parents, so the game doesn't mark them as family? Or just sims who are really close and ought to be able to use Family Kiss?

If you have ACR, it partially gives you the ability to fix this, through the Add to the Friend Zone functionality, but the Friend Zone can't be applied to anyone younger than teen, doesn't give sims family interactions with each other (like Family Kiss), and doesn't affect Maxis romantic socials. This new interaction, which shows up as "Treat as Family" or "Remove from Family" depending on family status, will allow you to make the game treat any two sims as if they were family for the purposes of romantic and family socials, even if they're not otherwise related. It doesn't change family ties in any way (such as marking the selected sim as a sibling or a cousin), and isn't commutative (so, adding Sim A to your family does not also add Sim A's sister, or other sims that Sim A has marked as family, to your family). It can be used on sims of any age, including babies.

You can't use the "Remove from Family" interaction to disown sims who are considered family by blood or marriage. You can only use it to remove sims who have been added through this hack. If you add a sim through this hack, and then become family with them by blood or marriage (because someone got married, or you changed their family ties with another hack) using "Remove from Family" won't have any immediate effect until the blood/marriage family tie is removed. If you're using my extended family hack, extended family is considered family by blood and can't be removed.

Downloading this hack

There are two parts to this hack: a social plugin that makes the interactions available, and the actual global hack that causes the sims to be treated as family. You need one (and only one) version of both.

Game Compatibility

This should be compatible with all game configurations, but if you have Pets you need the Pets version of the social plugin (foundfamilysocialplugin-Pets) instead of foundfamilysocialplugin. This mainly just prevents pets from being able to add sims to their family when you use the controlpets cheat.

Hack Compatibility

This necessarily conflicts with my extended family hacks. If you have one of those hacks, you need to use the foundfamilyglobal+extendedfamily global hack or foundfamily+extendedfamilypartial instead of foundfamilyglobal, and make sure the extended family hack loads first (if you put both hacks into the same folder and don't modify their names, they should load in the correct order). The BHAVs modified in the global hack are pictured above, it will conflict with anything that modifies these BHAVs. Mostly they are the same ones modified by the extended family hack, so in general it will probably conflict with other hacks that conflict with extended family - however, it should NOT conflict with InTeen, or other hacks that adds custom globals (unless they modified the globals listed above). The social plugin should not conflict with anything.

This might stealth-conflict (undetected by HCDU) with some hacks that add new relationship statuses, such as ACR's Friend Zone (it does not conflict with ACR's Friend Zone). If you know of a hack like that and tell me where to find it I can determine if it will conflict.

Additional Note

This hack is Super-Duper-Hug-free.

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 2

This is a multi-part download:


Download EITHER "foundfamilysocialplugin" OR "foundfamilysocialplugin-Pets" depending on whether or not you have Pets, AND EITHER "foundfamilyglobal" OR "foundfamilyglobal+extendedfamily" OR "foundfamilyglobal+extendedfamilypartial" depending on whether you have an extended family hack.
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
foundfamilyglobal+extendedfamilypartial.zip | Found family global hack if you DO have the extended family partial hack

Size: 382 Bytes · Downloads: 673 · 10th Nov 2020
382 Bytes 673 10th Nov 2020
foundfamilysocialplugin-Pets.zip | Found family social plugin if you DO have Pets

Size: 777 Bytes · Downloads: 4,764 · 14th Nov 2018
777 Bytes 4,764 14th Nov 2018
foundfamilysocialplugin.zip | Found family social plugin if you DONT have Pets

Size: 755 Bytes · Downloads: 882 · 14th Nov 2018
755 Bytes 882 14th Nov 2018
foundfamilyglobal+extendedfamily.zip | Found family global hack if you DO have the extended family hack

Size: 512 Bytes · Downloads: 3,065 · 14th Nov 2018
512 Bytes 3,065 14th Nov 2018
foundfamilyglobal.zip | Found family global hack if you DONT have an extended family hack

Size: 687 Bytes · Downloads: 2,315 · 14th Nov 2018
687 Bytes 2,315 14th Nov 2018
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.

2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.

3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
  • Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows Vista/7/8/10: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows XP: Documents and Settings\(Current User Account)\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Mac: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads
  • Mac x64: /Library/Containers/com.aspyr.sims2.appstore/Data/Library/Application Support/Aspyr/The Sims 2/Downloads
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Test Subject
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#2 Old 14th Nov 2018 at 2:03 AM
the lord has answered my prayers i needed a mod like this..
Instructor
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#3 Old 14th Nov 2018 at 2:12 AM
This is a beautiful addition -- I've wanted something like this for such a long time! Thank you very much. ^_^
Lab Assistant
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#4 Old 14th Nov 2018 at 11:00 PM
This is going to be so useful for my raised-together practically siblings, especially given that one is Romance - and there are plenty of other places I'm going to find I need it! So handy to have an option right there in game for those of us who are less talented at using SimPE.
Instructor
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#5 Old 15th Nov 2018 at 7:54 AM
I do use ACR and this will be a nice companion to that mod. Thank you so much for sharing this - it was much needed and long over due.
Test Subject
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#6 Old 18th Nov 2018 at 12:40 AM
I have complicated family in my game that needs this.
The oldest daughter is biologically not related to the dad but he never knew this.
She has a younger adopted sister from her non biological dad and his wife.
I didn't realize how much I needed this!
Theorist
Original Poster
#7 Old 18th Nov 2018 at 1:03 AM
Actually, they should be considered family in that case, since the game would consider them step-family if the parents are married. Is this not the case?
Test Subject
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Test Subject
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#8 Old 18th Nov 2018 at 8:20 PM
This is very useful! Thank you! x
Test Subject
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#9 Old 18th Nov 2018 at 8:42 PM
This is a game-changer, thank you so much!!!
Lab Assistant
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#10 Old 20th Nov 2018 at 3:51 PM
I have four sisters who were separated by the Social Worker but they still have good relationships with each other and memories of each other, thanks to the no memory delete hack. Now with this hack, they can still be sisters. Awesome job as always, Kes. Thanks!
Meet Me In My Next Life
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#11 Old 21st Nov 2018 at 2:36 AM
Thank you so very much, this is very much needed to add more sensible game play.
Lab Assistant
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#12 Old 22nd Nov 2018 at 10:29 PM
Thank you Kestrellyn for my life
Test Subject
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#13 Old 7th Jan 2019 at 7:22 AM
Thank you for sharing! Definitely adding this to my game <3
Test Subject
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#14 Old 26th Jan 2019 at 10:07 PM
Thank you so much! as someone who had wanted to use your extended family hack, but didn't want to uninstall InTeen, this is a wonderful option. Also, I love that the people who really do feel like family can now be family!
Test Subject
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#15 Old 14th Mar 2019 at 4:06 PM
Thank you!! Been looking for this for so long!
Lab Assistant
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#16 Old 21st Nov 2019 at 5:03 PM
I'll keep this mod in mind. I don't usually have trouble setting sims up with family flags, but if I do in the future, I'll come back to this mod to help me. Thank you!
Top Secret Researcher
#17 Old 29th Oct 2020 at 6:08 AM
Thanks!This should help with making foster kids be seen as kids by foster parents instead of being seen as potential romances later and this could also be used to stop inproper romances that shouldn't happen.
Mad Poster
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#18 Old 9th Nov 2020 at 2:52 PM
I use your extendedfamilypartial hack. Will this hack work with that?
Theorist
Original Poster
#19 Old 9th Nov 2020 at 8:54 PM
Oh, you're right, I realized the compatible version for extended family won't actually work with extendedfamilypartial. I've uploaded another compatible version for extendedfamilypartial.
Mad Poster
#20 Old 10th Nov 2020 at 9:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kestrellyn
Oh, you're right, I realized the compatible version for extended family won't actually work with extendedfamilypartial. I've uploaded another compatible version for extendedfamilypartial.


Thanks! Hadn't actually played for a while and when I went into a lot it threw all sorts of bad gosub family related errors on sims.

There are two files in the foundfamilyglobal+extendedfamilypartial zip. One foundfamilyglobal+extendedfamilypartial and one foundfamilyglobal-extendedfamilypartial. Do you need both?
Theorist
Original Poster
#21 Old 10th Nov 2020 at 10:54 PM
Oh, no, they are both the same, actually. I just accidentally named one not according to my usual conventions and it accidentally got included in the zip.

Edit: There should only be one file, now.
Lab Assistant
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#22 Old 27th Nov 2020 at 4:38 AM
I'm sure Lola, Chloe, and Glabe Curious would appreciate this one :P
Field Researcher
#23 Old 21st Apr 2021 at 1:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kestrellyn
Actually, they should be considered family in that case, since the game would consider them step-family if the parents are married. Is this not the case?


I just downloaded this mod and this is how it's currently handled in my game: I can "Treat as family" extended family such as niece/nephews and aunts/uncles by marriage, but can't do it on step-parents and step-children because I guess they are already considered family, although they are not marked as such (they don't have the icon in the relationship panel). They can family kiss etc. for the moment since the kid is still a child, but I don't know how the game handles step-parents by marriage when the kids grow into adults. Would it block out romantic socials even if they don't have the family icon on the relationship panel?

In any case, thanks for the awesome mod!
Theorist
Original Poster
#24 Old 21st Apr 2021 at 4:24 AM
It sounds like you might not have my inlaws fix: https://modthesims.info/d/610805/in-laws-fix.html In-law relationships, including aunts and uncles by marriage and non-blood-related nieces and nephews, are pretty broken without it. You would probably notice that one sim can add the other as family, but the other sim doesn't get that option, even if the first sim removes them.

And yes, they will still be treated as family even though the family icon is not in the relationship panel.
kestrellyn also recommends you check the following:

See also my extended family hack, which treats certain extended family as family without you having to do anything!