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Auto Shorter Teens

by Menaceman44 Posted 16th May 2020 at 3:23 PM - Updated 13th Mar 2021 at 8:16 PM by Menaceman44 : Updated Files
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Description
This has been a long time coming.
Ever since the announcement of The Sims 4 and the realisation that Teens would be the same height as Adults I have hoped and dreamed that it would one day be possible to shorten them down with mods.

Mods were created to address this and I was overjoyed but then patches would break them only for them to never be updated.
Fantastic sliders were created to alter the heights of Sims but it all had to be done manually and then reset once a Sim aged past the Teen stage.

I wanted something that would work automatically on all Teens in the game whether played or not and return them to normal height once they passed the Teen stage.
Today I bring you just that!

Info
This mod is an amalgamation of my own work and that of several other wonderful creators used with their permission.
I would very much like to thank simmythesim for the initial early work into height sliders and a shorter Teen mod.
Luumia whos height sliders the modifiers in this mod come from.
NiveaSimsCC whos bone delta values were added to Luumia's modifiers to tweak the result more to my liking.
And CmarNYC for piecing together how to obtain the Instance values required to make this mod work.
Without the help of these wonderful creators I would not have been able to bring this to you today.

So, onto the details.
First of all this is NOT a slider or a body preset.
This mod overrides the Teen specific CAS Modifier Tuning XMLs for each of the occult types and adds in a new reference to the short height modifier.
This means that any Sim that is created as a Teen in CAS, or ages up to a Teen through normal gameplay will automatically be shorter than Adult Sims. It also means that once they age past the Teen stage they will return to the default height for an Adult Sim.
You don't need to do anything different to have this mod take affect on newly created or aged Teens.

It is important to note, however, that already existing Teens will NOT automatically become shorter upon installing this mod. There is a way around this though.
Open the cheat console and enter the cas.fulleditmode cheat. Now take the existing Teen Sim into CAS either through a mirror, dresser, or other method. Once in CAS you need to change either the Sim's frame or gender and then switch back for the shorter height to be applied. You can then exit CAS.

I haven't noticed any oddities when Teens interact with or carry Toddlers or small pets.
A useful side effect of this mod makes it easier to identify Teens from the Relationships and Household Members panels as their pictures will appear lower in the frame when compared to Adults.

I hope you all enjoy your (mostly) automatically shorter Teens!

Notes
As with all height related mods there will be some clipping of animations and certain interactions between Sims of different heights may not align correctly. Correcting those is outside the scope of this mod although I have tried to use values that reduce this.
Teens and Young Adults uploaded to the Gallery will be flagged as containing CC. Pointed out to me by Spiderses. I forgot to check Gallery usage.
This mod is, as far as I am aware and have tested, compatible with other height slider mods. This means you can alter the individual heights of Sims still, including Teens, if you like with the use of other CC sliders.
When creating a Sim and selecting a new body preset for a Teen they may reset to Adult height. To fix this simply swap their gender and then swap back again. Swapping frames does not work in this situation.
On one occassion during testing, after editing a pre-existing Teen their left hand went missing after exiting CAS. After a few minutes of in-game time the hand returned on its own.
If you use Khitsule's pointy ears unlocker then make sure to choose one of the "PlusEarsUnlocker" versions.
This mod also corrects an EA error where the tuning for Teen Spellcasters incorrectly classifies them as Vampires instead.

Conflicts


The mod will conflict with CaS Modifiers bugfix: Aging & Randomization by Shimrod101 although that mod may no longer work anyway since the other modifiers used in it seem to have been removed from the game files.
It will also conflict with Pointy Ears Unlocked - All Ages by Khitsune. If you use this, make sure to download the "PlusEarsUnlocker" version instead and place the file in an Override folder.

March 12th 2021
In an attempt to address the issue where Teens will not get taller when aging to Young Adults for some players, I have recreated the mod with fresh tuning and now included the Young Adult modifier tunings with minor alterations as well.

26th May 2020
Thanks to the feedback from cedrigo I have made it so that Teens necks will now scale down to better suit the smaller propotions. This will affect all Sims as there are no seperate modifiers for the different gender options.
DClick mentioned that this mod conflicts with Khitsule's Pointy Ears Unlocker and so I have added a new version which should mean you can keep both files in your game and still have access to the pointy ears modifiers for Teens.
Lastly, FullMetalAlchemist requested a version that uses the same height as NiveaSimsCC's Teen Preset. There are two versions of this. One with the pointed ears unlocked and one without.
If you spot anything iffy please let me know. I had to edit a lot of numerical values for all the new versions and my eyes might have missed something.

Additional Credits:
MorphMaker,
Sims4Studio,
s4pe.

You must have the expansion, game version or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 4
Built with Game Version: 1.71.86.10
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
MMautoShorterTeensShortestPlusEarsUnlocker.zip | For players who want the shortest Teens and also use Khitsule's pointy ears unlocker.

Size: 40.2 KB · Downloads: 5,930 · 12th Mar 2021
40.2 KB 5,930 12th Mar 2021
MMautoShorterTeensShortest.zip | Alternate version to make Teens even shorter. Same height as NiveaSimsCC's Teen preset.

Size: 40.1 KB · Downloads: 11,196 · 12th Mar 2021
40.1 KB 11,196 12th Mar 2021
MMautoShorterTeensPlusEarsUnlocker.zip | Same as basic file but also unlocks pointed ear manipulation for users of Khitsule's unlocker.

Size: 39.9 KB · Downloads: 5,080 · 12th Mar 2021
39.9 KB 5,080 12th Mar 2021
MMautoShorterTeens.zip | Basic mod to make Teens shorter. Main download.

Size: 40.2 KB · Downloads: 38,437 · 12th Mar 2021
40.2 KB 38,437 12th Mar 2021
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Lab Assistant
THANKS POST
#151 Old 15th Mar 2021 at 1:04 PM
Hi. I haven't tried modding this game and don't know much about the inner workings, yet. I am curious if you know if it is possible to create something like Consort's Grow mod for TS3? That mod made the sims grow by a percentage each night so they would get taller over time. It worked for children and teens. TS4's lack of height diversity really frustrates me and I'm reluctantly trying to figure out if it's even possible to fix it.

Thanks for this mod. I just found it today and I'm happy to have it added. I have a kid that's about to age up and I hated the idea of him going from a 10 year old to a 20 year old in a snap.
Mad Poster
Original Poster
#152 Old 15th Mar 2021 at 2:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mstybl95
Hi. I haven't tried modding this game and don't know much about the inner workings, yet. I am curious if you know if it is possible to create something like Consort's Grow mod for TS3? That mod made the sims grow by a percentage each night so they would get taller over time. It worked for children and teens. TS4's lack of height diversity really frustrates me and I'm reluctantly trying to figure out if it's even possible to fix it.

Thanks for this mod. I just found it today and I'm happy to have it added. I have a kid that's about to age up and I hated the idea of him going from a 10 year old to a 20 year old in a snap.

I know the mod you mean. I never used it in my game but I looked into it at the time it was released.
Sadly, I don't have the technical or coding knowledge to say for certain if it would be possible for TS4 although theoretically I would think it could be done through a combination of custom modifiers and hidden buffs that get applied at different stages of a life stage.
I wish you the best of luck if you decide to dive in and take a look.

My deviantART, MTS Yearbook Origin ID = Alistu
Test Subject
#153 Old 19th Mar 2021 at 4:56 AM
Do you have any plans to make it so we can automatically shorten all existing teens in-game? thank you!
Mad Poster
Original Poster
#154 Old 19th Mar 2021 at 2:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 69ingsince94
Do you have any plans to make it so we can automatically shorten all existing teens in-game? thank you!

Sadly that's beyond my skills or what this mod can do with the way it is set up.
The only way to update existing Teens is to manually take them back into CAS with cas.fulleditmode activated and temporarily switch their gender or frame before exiting back to the game.

My deviantART, MTS Yearbook Origin ID = Alistu
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#155 Old 29th Mar 2021 at 6:01 AM
es maravilloso gracias por compartir
Test Subject
#156 Old 4th Apr 2021 at 8:19 PM
Default Question about portrait panel
I downloaded the shortest version of the mod. In the portrait panels, it only shows the top of their hair. Is there any way to show their faces for the portrait, or is the mod intended to be like this?
Mad Poster
Original Poster
#157 Old 4th Apr 2021 at 9:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by glittervvitch
I downloaded the shortest version of the mod. In the portrait panels, it only shows the top of their hair. Is there any way to show their faces for the portrait, or is the mod intended to be like this?

Sadly, it is outside the scope of this mod as the camera that takes those shots is set at a predefined height that nobody knows how to edit yet. If it ever becomes something that can be modded I will be sure to update but I wouldn't hold your breath.

My deviantART, MTS Yearbook Origin ID = Alistu
Test Subject
#158 Old 9th Apr 2021 at 6:44 PM
Thank you so much for the mod. I've been using it for the past year, never had a problem. But yesterday I aged up the teenager I was playing (normal way with a cake) and she has stayed the short height. I tried aging her up and down in CAS, but it doesn't work. How can I fix this?
I have installed the updated version btw.
Mad Poster
Original Poster
#159 Old 10th Apr 2021 at 12:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amiranne
Thank you so much for the mod. I've been using it for the past year, never had a problem. But yesterday I aged up the teenager I was playing (normal way with a cake) and she has stayed the short height. I tried aging her up and down in CAS, but it doesn't work. How can I fix this?
I have installed the updated version btw.

Take her into CAS with cas.fulleditmode enabled. Change either her frame or gender and then change it back. This should correct the height. You can then exit CAS.
I've never been able to track down why the height doesn't always update correctly, unfortunately. Obviously my latest attempt to correct it hasn't been 100% successful.

My deviantART, MTS Yearbook Origin ID = Alistu
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#160 Old 11th Apr 2021 at 4:51 PM
Omg this is exactly what I wanted thanks so much, I will try it tonight I also wish for the same thing for elders so they won't look so terrifyingly tall
Lab Assistant
#161 Old Today at 10:16 PM
Will premade Sims resize upon making a new game? Or will I need to edit all of my neighbors?
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