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#26
16th Dec 2005 at 6:21 PM
Last edited by Mage : 16th Dec 2005 at 6:48 PM.
16th Dec 2005 at 6:21 PM
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#27
17th Dec 2005 at 4:15 PM
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#28
17th Dec 2005 at 9:55 PM
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#29
17th Dec 2005 at 10:16 PM
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#30
23rd Feb 2006 at 8:11 AM
23rd Feb 2006 at 8:11 AM
Great Job! Thank You!
Hi Echo :wave: I just wanted to say "THANK YOU" a million times over for this great tutorial! :bow: It worked GREAT on the first try. :nod: Appreciate you sharing this with us
Thanks again
Simnuts
#31
8th Mar 2006 at 2:08 PM
8th Mar 2006 at 2:08 PM
#32
8th Mar 2006 at 2:18 PM
Last edited by Echo : 8th Mar 2006 at 2:26 PM.
8th Mar 2006 at 2:18 PM
Last edited by Echo : 8th Mar 2006 at 2:26 PM.
Yup, and the process is much simpler than all the stuff above. 
If you want sims to share tiles with your object (like a rug, etc) then you have to set the "allow person intersection" flag. For a full explaination, read this thread: (not just the first post, read down a few posts as well)
http://forums.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=82685
If you want sims to share tiles with your object (like a rug, etc) then you have to set the "allow person intersection" flag. For a full explaination, read this thread: (not just the first post, read down a few posts as well)
http://forums.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=82685
#33
8th Mar 2006 at 3:04 PM
8th Mar 2006 at 3:04 PM
#34
13th Mar 2006 at 10:30 AM
13th Mar 2006 at 10:30 AM
Echo - Thanks for a great tutorial I wanted to ask though if you have noticed a wall intersection problem specific to footprint resized objects? I had one object which I hadn't noticed had a problem until I drew a wall through it. Playing with it and several test objects I made, I have found that every placement flag works, except the 'allow wall intersection' flag, which seems to only work on a diagonal wall. It's non-fatal, as long as there is a floor next to the wall (on terrain enable objects) and would generally go unnoticed. Anyway, it's a curiosity that may or may not have an answer. (short of importing BCONs from something else?)
I wanted to ask though if you have noticed a wall intersection problem specific to footprint resized objects? I had one object which I hadn't noticed had a problem until I drew a wall through it. Playing with it and several test objects I made, I have found that every placement flag works, except the 'allow wall intersection' flag, which seems to only work on a diagonal wall. It's non-fatal, as long as there is a floor next to the wall (on terrain enable objects) and would generally go unnoticed. Anyway, it's a curiosity that may or may not have an answer. (short of importing BCONs from something else?)
#35
15th Mar 2006 at 8:33 AM
15th Mar 2006 at 8:33 AM
Never noticed it myself, but then I've never tried putting walls through objects. Given that maxis objects use the Maya footprint by default, it may be that the wall checking code doesn't recognize objects resized by this technique. Still, it's a fairly minor problem (no one's noticed it before) so I don't think it's anything to worry about.
#36
24th Mar 2006 at 8:04 AM
24th Mar 2006 at 8:04 AM
#37
24th Mar 2006 at 8:50 AM
Last edited by Echo : 24th Mar 2006 at 10:19 AM.
24th Mar 2006 at 8:50 AM
Last edited by Echo : 24th Mar 2006 at 10:19 AM.
Have you tried it with testing cheats enabled, and if so, what error message did you get? My guess would be that somewhere in the interaction there's a "Go to Routing Slot" command that is checking against the footprint, but I'm not sure. I'll take a look at a bookshelf and see if I can find the problem.
Edit: Yup, it's a routing slot failure. Unfortunately, I don't know a way to fix it very easily, I fiddled around for a while and no luck.
Edit: Yup, it's a routing slot failure. Unfortunately, I don't know a way to fix it very easily, I fiddled around for a while and no luck.
#38
24th Mar 2006 at 3:23 PM
24th Mar 2006 at 3:23 PM
#39
24th Mar 2006 at 4:11 PM
24th Mar 2006 at 4:11 PM
The command shows up in several interactions, (pretty much any time a sim goes up to the bookshelf,) but if you're trying things out then try importing "Interaction - Read Book" from the BookCaseGlobals. Line 4 is the offending line. I tried setting it to ignore the destination footprint, but it didn't seem to fix the problem - sims were still whinging.
What I normally do when I have to deal with irritating routing slot commands is to replace the command with a "Go To Relative Position" command that approximates its behaviour. You could try it with the bookshelf, but you'd have to see if it looked any good that way - it may not line up right.
If you want me to try it out with the substituted commands, let me know (and preferably post the object so I can make the changes in it!
).
What I normally do when I have to deal with irritating routing slot commands is to replace the command with a "Go To Relative Position" command that approximates its behaviour. You could try it with the bookshelf, but you'd have to see if it looked any good that way - it may not line up right.
If you want me to try it out with the substituted commands, let me know (and preferably post the object so I can make the changes in it!
).
#40
24th Mar 2006 at 5:16 PM
Last edited by Grapholina : 26th Mar 2006 at 4:23 PM.
24th Mar 2006 at 5:16 PM
Last edited by Grapholina : 26th Mar 2006 at 4:23 PM.
#41
25th Mar 2006 at 6:37 AM
Last edited by Grapholina : 26th Mar 2006 at 4:21 PM.
25th Mar 2006 at 6:37 AM
Last edited by Grapholina : 26th Mar 2006 at 4:21 PM.
New, routing-error free version is attached. The relative position change seems to have worked fine. I've fixed it for "Read book", the three "Study" options, "Read to [child]", "College Study" and "Put Away". I couldn't find any more routing commands, so that should be it.
Just a note though, this object would now (probably) be classified as a localized hack, because I had to import a few things that were global. It won't affect any of the other objects in game and the behaviour shouldn't look any different, but if Maxis changes the book case code significantly in a future EP it may not work perfectly. (That's that case with most bookcases though, so I wouldn't worry overly!)
By the way, the bookcase is gorgeous! I love the wood colour.
Echo
Just a note though, this object would now (probably) be classified as a localized hack, because I had to import a few things that were global. It won't affect any of the other objects in game and the behaviour shouldn't look any different, but if Maxis changes the book case code significantly in a future EP it may not work perfectly. (That's that case with most bookcases though, so I wouldn't worry overly!)
By the way, the bookcase is gorgeous! I love the wood colour.
Echo
#42
25th Mar 2006 at 4:59 PM
Last edited by Grapholina : 25th Mar 2006 at 5:10 PM.
25th Mar 2006 at 4:59 PM
Last edited by Grapholina : 25th Mar 2006 at 5:10 PM.
#43
27th Mar 2006 at 5:04 AM
27th Mar 2006 at 5:04 AM
Hi, I tried this and i couldn't get it to work. I always get a object out of bounds, and it won't let me place it. I made an L-shaped desk, with the L coming off to the left side of the chair. I was wondering if i coulnd't do this because sims are normally able to interact with the left side of the desk as well as the right. Also, since I need to extend the desk backwards, would I add a tile at -257? I added a pic to show you what I mean, and where there are tiles placed orgionally (I think)
Thanks
Thanks
#44
27th Mar 2006 at 5:34 AM
27th Mar 2006 at 5:34 AM
Negative numbers in footprints are quite prone to difficulty, because in computer representation, -1 can mean both -1 and the largest possible number that can be stored, depending on whether it's reading the number using signed or unsigned notation. If it's reading it as the largest possible number, then you've actually created a footprint tile that is so far away from your table that it can't even be drawn on the map, thus the "out of bounds".
What I'd suggest is changing all the sub indices for all the tiles in your object, so instead of:
[256] [0]
[-257]
You'd have:
[257] [1]
[256]
Then just moving your mesh along in your mesh editor and reimporting it.
What I'd suggest is changing all the sub indices for all the tiles in your object, so instead of:
[256] [0]
[-257]
You'd have:
[257] [1]
[256]
Then just moving your mesh along in your mesh editor and reimporting it.
#45
27th Mar 2006 at 2:44 PM
Last edited by MizzesSimmer : 28th Mar 2006 at 1:58 AM.
Reason: Added to post
27th Mar 2006 at 2:44 PM
Last edited by MizzesSimmer : 28th Mar 2006 at 1:58 AM.
Reason: Added to post
Alright, thanks for your time and help. I appreciate it!
***The green squares are showing properly now, and that part no longer intersects the wall, but the sims still walk through it. Could you take a look at it? I've went over it a million times and I know I followed the steps, I'm just lost.
***The green squares are showing properly now, and that part no longer intersects the wall, but the sims still walk through it. Could you take a look at it? I've went over it a million times and I know I followed the steps, I'm just lost.
#46
29th Mar 2006 at 9:43 AM
29th Mar 2006 at 9:43 AM
Sure. I can only take a look at it if you post it though!
I can only take a look at it if you post it though!
#47
29th Mar 2006 at 2:13 PM
29th Mar 2006 at 2:13 PM
Thankyou! I started from scratch and tried again. The green squares are right, but they still walk through it. But I did notice that it looks like the arrow is pointing back into the object. I think, but I do need glasses, so I may be wrong, lol.
Thankyou so much for your help! And don't be afraid to kick my butt if I've just done something dumb, and wasted your time, lol!
Thankyou so much for your help! And don't be afraid to kick my butt if I've just done something dumb, and wasted your time, lol!
#48
29th Mar 2006 at 3:21 PM
29th Mar 2006 at 3:21 PM
Fixed version is attached.
The problem was one that Targa discovered and explained in the previous page, although this is the first and only time I've actually seen it in an object. The footprint masks in each of the OBJDs have to be set to 0. It's all very odd really. But you can rest assured that you followed the instructions perfectly and did nothing wrong. You just got a weird object.
The problem was one that Targa discovered and explained in the previous page, although this is the first and only time I've actually seen it in an object. The footprint masks in each of the OBJDs have to be set to 0. It's all very odd really. But you can rest assured that you followed the instructions perfectly and did nothing wrong. You just got a weird object.
#49
29th Mar 2006 at 11:03 PM
29th Mar 2006 at 11:03 PM
#50
15th Apr 2006 at 5:37 AM
15th Apr 2006 at 5:37 AM
Is it possible to have the sims sit on only a section of a couch? Like the 2 outer tiles of a 3 tile couch. Thanks
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