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Rogue Redeemer
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#15251 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 7:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rodrigues
The hair textures are trully horrible, which is funny because some of them have far better textures than others, it's really inconsistent (only thing consistent is that blond always look terrible). It makes changing hair styles harder than it should be, because some of the bad textured hairs look even worse depending on the color, which, on the other hand, can be the best color for another hair. I wonder what the hell went on with that, but trying to understand the atrocious decisions regarding this game is probably a waste of time. Not even "they suck" can explain those, so I decided to moved on.

HP has taken a look inside the hair files, and you are right, the files themselves apparently are a strange, incoherent mess.
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#15252 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 7:36 PM
I'm already noticing a lot of sameface happening with sims - I see a lot of TS4 sims made with the demo in scrolling through my Tumblr dash, and unless they're wildly weird looking, they all just look pretty much the same. I've seen a couple sort of vaguely-reminiscent-of-the-person celeb-sims, but none I'd really class as anything like a great likeness. Mostly it's like, "Oh, yeah, I guess I can sort of see it. Could be his brother. If you squint. A lot."

I cannot tell you how little I am looking forward to moderating the TS4 "other" sims section here, cos honestly, unless they're a freakish monster Imma just go "Yep, that sure is a TS4 sim, you betcha," and run out of the thread the other way.

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#15253 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 7:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bloodstained_black_lace
Those mods are for Sims 3. The OP was looking for Sims 2.


Maybe mine will suit them.

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#15254 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 7:48 PM
Agreed with your color statements rodrigues. Some same colors look drastically different on different hairs. Some hair textures are better than others. The lighter and darker tones look sickly, ashy, zombielike. Very unnatural for the average, healthy human.

One thing that really gets me: why don't we have a full layering system? It was a main selling point in The Sims 2 console version, and no transfer to PC. They have one for accessories, but what about tops?

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#15255 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 8:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HystericalParoxysm
I'm already noticing a lot of sameface happening with sims - I see a lot of TS4 sims made with the demo in scrolling through my Tumblr dash, and unless they're wildly weird looking, they all just look pretty much the same. I've seen a couple sort of vaguely-reminiscent-of-the-person celeb-sims, but none I'd really class as anything like a great likeness. Mostly it's like, "Oh, yeah, I guess I can sort of see it. Could be his brother. If you squint. A lot."

I cannot tell you how little I am looking forward to moderating the TS4 "other" sims section here, cos honestly, unless they're a freakish monster Imma just go "Yep, that sure is a TS4 sim, you betcha," and run out of the thread the other way.


I am seeing the sameface in my creations and noticed that being safe while creating, for example keeping the facial features realistic will end up with the same looking sims syndrome. If I exaggerate the eyes, nose, or cheeks and such helps a little but when every sim is sharing the same set of hairs then it will become synonymous in features.

OT, while creating sims last night, I realized that my ex's face came up. If anyone downloads this sim, please make him suffer and kill him with fire. Take pictures, plenty of pictures for me. Otherwise I need to get my kicks when I decide to get the game. His name is Billy Brown, pseudonym for sure.


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Maybe mine will suit them.


You are so right and I could kick myself for not thinking about the Simlogical Sims 2 site. That was my hangout back in the day.

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#15256 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 8:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HystericalParoxysm
I'm already noticing a lot of sameface happening with sims - I see a lot of TS4 sims made with the demo in scrolling through my Tumblr dash, and unless they're wildly weird looking, they all just look pretty much the same. I've seen a couple sort of vaguely-reminiscent-of-the-person celeb-sims, but none I'd really class as anything like a great likeness. Mostly it's like, "Oh, yeah, I guess I can sort of see it. Could be his brother. If you squint. A lot."

That's interesting, I've noticed that too, but I thought it was because people don't verge far from default faces. Like they'd choose a nice default face, pull and push here and there, and done.
But if it's because the range limits of face sculpts... I'll be really disappointed, I've been hoping for this CAS to be the best one. :/

And lol, maybe the TS4 Sim Creator Guidelines will be just "Has a face".
Theorist
#15257 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 8:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lumialover8
Played around with S4PE/Colour Magic and figured out how to do body hair as a tattoo overlay. Textures are TMZ's body hair but they look kinda muddy and not as crisp as TS3. Might be because of my terrible editing haha. Here's a pic demonstrating it on 3 different body types.



Is it one tattoo? Just curious because this leads me to believe we could do some custom sleeves without making them in pieces using accessories like in TS3. (before tattoos were added.)

yay!
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#15258 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 8:20 PM Last edited by lewisb40 : 10th Aug 2014 at 8:35 PM.
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Originally Posted by Arisuka
That's interesting, I've noticed that too, but I thought it was because people don't verge far from default faces. Like they'd choose a nice default face, pull and push here and there, and done.
But if it's because the range limits of face sculpts... I'll be really disappointed, I've been hoping for this CAS to be the best one. :/

And lol, maybe the TS4 Sim Creator Guidelines will be just "Has a face".


What I did find last night from my session, I can choose a preset face, go through every feature preset and get new looks by tweaking them. I didn't realize until then there was dimples in the preset for cheeks. (I'll be back with pics)

ETA:The skin doesn't show it off well, should have used a different one, but I am still learning how to pull/push things into shape. Maybe this cheek preset could be modded for the dimple to be pronounce.

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#15259 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 8:31 PM Last edited by lumialover8 : 10th Aug 2014 at 9:21 PM.
The body hair is done after (literally, i shit you not) 3 hours of non-stop work! (My perfectionist trait was definitely in action)

Download Link:
https://drive.google.com/folderview...8&usp=drive_web

Pictures:


Notes:
- The hair looks a bit reddish on lighter skintones. I have no idea how to fix it - sorry!
- I have zero experience working with hair, so I would like to give a big thank you to TMZ for the amazing base on which I fixed up for Sims 4 sims!
- Thank you to everyone who was supportive of me - it really means a lot because I've never actually "made" CC before.
- Have fun with your new hairy-fied dudes! Don't forget to share pics of them

Edit: forgot to mention the AMAZING creators of S4PE and Colour Magic! Thank you so much!

(P.S - We need a Sims 4 CC section ASAP!)
(P.P.S - More variety of bhairs are coming soon!)
Lab Assistant
#15260 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 8:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lovcat
Is it one tattoo? Just curious because this leads me to believe we could do some custom sleeves without making them in pieces using accessories like in TS3. (before tattoos were added.)

yay!


Yep! One tattoo! And yes, sleeves in one piece are totally possible.
Instructor
#15261 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 8:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lumialover8
The body hair is done after (literally, i shit you not) 3 hours of non-stop work! (My perfectionist trait was definitely in action)

Download Link:
https://drive.google.com/folderview...8&usp=drive_web

Pictures:


Notes:
- The hair looks a bit reddish on lighter skintones. I have no idea how to fix it - sorry!
- I have zero experience working with hair, so I would like to give a big thank you to TMZ for the amazing base on which I fixed up for Sims 4 sims!
- Thank you to everyone who was supportive of me - it really means a lot because I've never actually "made" CC before.
- Have fun with your new hairy-fied dudes! Don't forget to share pics of them

(P.S - We need a Sims 4 CC section ASAP!)
(P.P.S - More variety of bhairs are coming soon!)


God yes, finally they look manly again.

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#15262 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 8:40 PM
I have the Sims 4 demo. I tried to adjust the pitch of the voice to match mine and it doesn't go high enough.


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#15263 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 8:48 PM
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Originally Posted by lumialover8
(P.S - We need a Sims 4 CC section ASAP!)

It's not a quick and simple thing to do and requires Delphy, who is probably really busy right now dealing with a flood IRL...
Also, the demo files and stuff may change from the actual game files, so it's best to wait until the actual game releases. Creator Guidelines need to be also created, and CC Mods need to take a look at the technicalities of the game to avoid problem files from being spread on this site, etc... Also all CAS CC in general has to be pictured in live mode, because weird stuff may happen when switching to live mode.

But hang on to your project, and you guys with demos can test those files. So when the TS4 CC downloads section is up, you'll have a very well tested creation!
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#15264 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 8:50 PM
Wasn't a thread created for CC that people may released in this thread? If not, shouldn't one be created?

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#15265 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 8:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Arisuka
It's not a quick and simple thing to do and requires Delphy, who is probably really busy right now dealing with a flood IRL...
Also, the demo files and stuff may change from the actual game files, so it's best to wait until the actual game releases. Creator Guidelines need to be also created, and CC Mods need to take a look at the technicalities of the game to avoid problem files from being spread on this site, etc... Also all CAS CC in general has to be pictured in live mode, because weird stuff may happen when switching to live mode.

But hang on to your project, and you guys with demos can test those files. So when the TS4 CC downloads section is up, you'll have a very well tested creation!


Thank you for informing me, Arisuka! I was just kidding when I said that, haha You guys work so hard around the clock to keep this website stable, I'm genuinely appreciative of what you guys do for us!
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#15266 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 8:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lumialover8
The body hair is done after (literally, i shit you not) 3 hours of non-stop work! (My perfectionist trait was definitely in action)


*hugs lumialover* Thank you so much! This is one of the many things I believe CAS should have from the get go, and I'm so glad to see it happen before the game is even released! Horray for untamed manly men!


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#15267 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 9:02 PM
Soooooo, Gamescom starts tomorrow.

And there hasn't been any confirmed native English fansites comfirmed yet...
Instructor
#15268 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 9:10 PM
And yet again, we experience the calm before the storm. There couldn't possibly be any bad news left for Gamescom though, right.

Right? No?
Scholar
#15269 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 9:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rodrigues
Also, the lack of a color wheel is really hurting the game - you can't experiment too much with outfits because some of them won't match no matter how many recolors they put there. It's almost like you have to match them exactly as imagined by developers. Not even shades of black are the same. I couldn't even use a pair of black formal pants because their black was different from the black on the top, it was lighter I think. Only option was to use the one "meant" to go with it.

It really, really sucks because the options given are very limited, and sometimes, all you need is to adjust the color just a little bit to get that look you imagined. I don't know if I am picky or what, but sometimes, I have a tone in my head that bugs me forever if it can't be matched. So if outfits are not matching, I can only imagine how hard it will be to decorate a house having to realy on such options.

Time for another Rock Band example.

Rock Band has multiple palettes for items in character creation, if I remember right:

Hair
Cotton
Denim
Leather
Metal
Plastic and guitar finish

Can't remember if the hair and leather palettes were the same. I think the cotton palette was missing a nice medium/bright green, but for the most part, the palettes for the items was almost always appropriate for the material.

Rock Band 3 dropped the ball. Some of the cotton clothes had a weird peach or gray tinge applied to them, so when you set them to white, you got peach or gray, and then blue was impossible on the peach-tainted clothes. A simple pair of jeans was completely screwed up - they applied the leather palette to the pants and the denim palette to the belt. This was a commonly used pair of jeans in Rock Band 2, rendered almost unusable for Rock Band 3.

Now for something nice to say about TS4 / something mean to say about RB3: The thin guys are actually thin. Rock Band 3 was much worse here...


But what's worse is that Rock Band 3 characters have stumpy arms. They had a hard time reusing animations because it would lead to stuff like this:

In the same animation performed by a Rock Band 2 character, with correctly proportioned arms, the mic reaches his mouth. So that they don't have to worry about the mic reaching the mouth, they whipped up a mic stand that holds it for them and a really really bored looking "bobblehead" head nod animation that is regurgitated ad nauseam. Song is around 3:30, and 1:30 of that is the head nod, here's the cut version with only the nodding animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao5LbR2vUKg

But at least Rock Band 3 had a height slider. Though it didn't work so well...



Back to TS4:


Quote:
Originally Posted by rodrigues
Moving on, I thought molding was very hard to do as well - the opposite of tactile, actually. Is it supposed to be that "heavy"? I've seen people molding it with such ease, but for me, it felt like I had to really move the mouse with strenght in order for it to change anything. Some changes I couldn't even see at all, so I ended up using the presets. I suck at creating sims anyway. Making males was more or less easy, but for some reason, all my females look like adults instead of young adults, especially with hair up. Someting was very off with them, even the randomized ones.

So the guys are frat house bros (minus the college education), and now the girls are automatically cougars (even when "teens"). Who are they making this game for?

And back to RB3, the women did look older than the men, because most of the facial features were overly chiseled. In TS4, it's more because the makeup options are just too heavy-handed (lack of transparency?).

Quote:
Originally Posted by HystericalParoxysm
I'm already noticing a lot of sameface happening with sims - I see a lot of TS4 sims made with the demo in scrolling through my Tumblr dash, and unless they're wildly weird looking, they all just look pretty much the same. I've seen a couple sort of vaguely-reminiscent-of-the-person celeb-sims, but none I'd really class as anything like a great likeness. Mostly it's like, "Oh, yeah, I guess I can sort of see it. Could be his brother. If you squint. A lot."

I cannot tell you how little I am looking forward to moderating the TS4 "other" sims section here, cos honestly, unless they're a freakish monster Imma just go "Yep, that sure is a TS4 sim, you betcha," and run out of the thread the other way.

Huh? This shouldn't be the case. TS4 finally has different head shapes. People really need to take advantage of that.

Could you give me an example of TS4 sameface?

I bet it's those damn limits on the pushy-pully system preventing you from deviating too far from pretty sameface features.

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#15270 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 9:14 PM
Probably one last bombshell before release... riveting.

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Instructor
#15271 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 9:17 PM
Ooooh shiny, a corner tub à la High End Loft Stuff.



Source here.
Mad Poster
#15272 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 9:18 PM
Where's the mouse sensitivity? Jesus Christ, doing anything feel like a chore. I feel like I'm actually using clay, and not the good stuff, either - way too much effort.

*waits for EA to use only the I feel like I'm actually using clay part*

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#15273 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 9:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mimoliin
Ooooh shiny, a corner tub à la High End Loft Stuff.



Source here.


And more evidence of multitasking, with that sim bathing and napping at the same time!
Lab Assistant
#15274 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 9:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGuySim
*hugs lumialover* Thank you so much! This is one of the many things I believe CAS should have from the get go, and I'm so glad to see it happen before the game is even released! Horray for untamed manly men!


Thank you GuySim ^_^

OT, but I'm a huge fan of your design work on Behance. I'm an aspiring graphic designer as well Hope I can be as good as you, haha!
Scholar
#15275 Old 10th Aug 2014 at 9:28 PM
I haven't been here for two/one day(s).
*Stretches* What did I miss?
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