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#10851 Old 29th Aug 2021 at 5:09 PM
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Originally Posted by simsample
Aww, shame- it's sometimes fun to look back on the sims you used to play with!
Although, once I built a neighbourhood for my daughter, and I put Sim Sample in there as a townie- she was not happy! And she spent a long time trying to kill him off. Eventually she moved him in with someone and had a satellite fall on him!

That honestly reminded me of something my Dad used to do. He'd load all of mine and my sister's neighbourhoods, as well as the premade ones if he knew we were playing them, and make a family called the "BillyBob Family." This family would always consist of an elderly man and seven adult daughters. It wound me up one time, because he'd ruined one of my storylines by having his elder get engaged to one of my sims without asking. My sister also loaded Pleasantview to find Nina missing; guess where she was She was not amused

When a game is predictable, it's boring.
That goes for any medium that isn't life.
That's why The Sims 2 is my favourite sims game.
It has elements of unpredictability and everything feels more involved.
The Sims 4 is another story altogether...
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#10852 Old 30th Aug 2021 at 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by sugoisama
Unpopular opinion, but I just can't bring myself to like randomly generated characters as pre-made ones. Maybe it's the fact that there was some thought put into pre-made ones, I don't know, but I never liked playing with randomly generated townies for some reason. They just seemed more boring to me than like, the ones from the maxis hoods.

But I'm not talking about the Pre-Mades. I love the Pre-Made families of Pleasantview and Strangetown.

I'm talking about the Townies, and the Townies almost are (or maybe even are) randomly generated characters that just happened to be saved in a way that puts them into every hood, to the point that I've wondered several times on here how they were created (as in whether Maxis created them by hand, had them randomly generated by the game or had them randomly generated and then edited them a bit). Their names, faces, hair and clothing are very miss-matched or even repeat (like the two Ivy Copurs) and are selected from the game's random name list (which is absolutely abysmal in its Vanilla form, bot in quantity and quality) which doesn't make them look like there was much, or any, thought put into them.

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Originally Posted by Justpetro
I have other townies in my other hoods.
However, having played the vanilla game for a longer time than most - not having access to proper working internet back in the day, since I was living in the mountains in South Africa - I got attached to the PV townies. I played my first custom hood for many years before it did the vanish into space thing one day - and by that time, most of the townies were not townies anymore. The game, of course, generated new ones, so I kind of got that too


I understand you feel about the Townies like I feel about the actual Pre-made families of Pleasantview and Strangetown, and that's cool, please don't get the impression that I'm trying to change your opinion or don't respect it.
But see...I've also played the game on and off since it came out and there were no ways to avoid the Pleasantview Townies or the Bin Sims for most of that time until empty templates were invented. And since deleting Sims was quickly found out to be a no-no I was stuck with those PV Townies and those Bin Sims in every hood. You could choose not to play Pleasantview, I couldn't choose for a very long time to have those characters in every single custom hood, that's why I started disliking them.

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#10853 Old 30th Aug 2021 at 1:58 AM
I'm actually under the impression that the townies were created specifically for Pleasantview but having them in every 'hood was an oversight by Maxis when they introduced the ability to have custom 'hoods.

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#10854 Old 30th Aug 2021 at 6:02 AM
I very much like the Pleasantview townies in their proper place -- they're mostly competent at their roles, sometimes surprisingly so, and even those who aren't are amusing. Parading around an attempt at a legacy hood...nope. I can tolerate Goopy, Dorian, and Russ, but even they look wrong out of the story I'm used to them in. However, I'd probably try to get them back in any megahood that included Pleasantview, if it wasn't Pleasantview-based already.

I didn't realize quite how possessive I was of my idea of the premades until someone made yet another remake of a premade neighborhood and made what I presume was a joking remark about making certain Sims a couple "as the Watcher intended". I don't regard those particular Sims as an attempt to evade the censors in what was by that point the late 2000s (as opposed to the Curious-Smiths -- I took an embarrassingly long time to get what Strange Tomato was alluding to, and then when I did it seemed so obvious...) and I found myself thinking "whose Watcher?" Then I see that premades have their ugly-cute squished faces elongated so they can breed conventionally attractive offspring, and realize the problem is on my side. Some people are disturbed by Sim-kids with eyes a long way apart, and by twins named Beatrice and Benedick (which, yes, would get them teased at school if their classmates have any intelligence -- but which I saw as an allusion to the folklore about lovers who die together being reincarnated as twins, a disturbing echo of the multi-generational trauma infusing Veronaville). I'm disturbed by the idea that Alexandra Teatherthon's discarding the O'Mackey name was an error (I'll be changing it back should I ever use the otherwise lovely new clean template for RH), and by how Chloe Curious and Johnny Smith really can't get away with the hairstyles they start out with and which suit them very well anymore (I'm almost ready to default replace those now that I've realized Chloe's is a proto-Karen and Johnny's is a proto-Proud-Boys style -- both of which would horrify them, for obvious reasons!). I do very much like the new version of Veronaville on MTS though, as it's so different from the original that it just seems like a reboot rather than a retcon -- think Star Trek versus Star Wars.
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#10855 Old 30th Aug 2021 at 8:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Orphalesion

I understand you feel about the Townies like I feel about the actual Pre-made families of Pleasantview and Strangetown, and that's cool, please don't get the impression that I'm trying to change your opinion or don't respect it.
But see...I've also played the game on and off since it came out and there were no ways to avoid the Pleasantview Townies or the Bin Sims for most of that time until empty templates were invented. And since deleting Sims was quickly found out to be a no-no I was stuck with those PV Townies and those Bin Sims in every hood. You could choose not to play Pleasantview, I couldn't choose for a very long time to have those characters in every single custom hood, that's why I started disliking them.


I know I also understand that a player may not want them in every hood - it just never was a problem for me, because I never played the premade hoods and for many years, I only played my custom hood. When I started with the Base game, I made my own sims. As the expansion packs were released, I moved in the bin sims as they came along - when my hood finally went kaboom, I had 244 families, apart from those in Bluewater Village and Uni - and on starting a new hood, it was really the first time I noticed that all the bin sims actually are in the bin And, as I said, I actually have 2 hoods without any premades - but after all these years, i am just fond of them I did later play Strangetown (I quite like those sims) and still may venture into Desiderata Valley these days - but I just like to control what happens in my game without scripts.
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#10856 Old 31st Aug 2021 at 11:21 PM
Good grief, I don't even know when the last time was I was on here, three or four weeks at least.

Well, Origin is downloading, new old computer is sorta-kinda stable (crashed a lot the first three days--which didn't help any with getting all the Windows updates on it), so we'll see how it goes.

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#10857 Old 1st Sep 2021 at 3:04 AM
What features do you all use the most in the game? I rarely use Uni features, but I find myself using AL, FT, and Seasons features the most.

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#10858 Old 1st Sep 2021 at 3:18 AM
hmmm

-Chemistry System really drives my romantic choices (NL)
-I use all the business functions in about 10 businesses and counting (OFB)
-I remodeled all my vacation hoods and heavily utilize them (BV)
-Walking to Lots is a staple of sim transport (FT)
-Love making and having sims live the apartment life (AL)
-All my sims go to Uni in some way (UNI)
-I have pets and have a bird sanctuary business I love to play (Pets)
-Gardening and Fishing (Seasons)

I guess the question is what features do I use the least?
Secret Societies (UNI)
Supernaturals (ALL)
Pet Trainers (Pets)
Child Adoption Agency (Base)

Uh oh! My social bar is low - that's why I posted today.

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#10859 Old 1st Sep 2021 at 5:32 AM
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Originally Posted by HarVee
What features do you all use the most in the game? I rarely use Uni features, but I find myself using AL, FT, and Seasons features the most.


From the top of my head;

UNI: I love taking my sims to college, but I eventually got a shorter college mod
AL: apartments are a must in every neighborhood I create, I can't build lots to save my life but everyone else makes beautiful apartments
SEA: it remains my favorite expansion pack of all time simply for the seasons. I have a 30-day season mod because less-than-a-weeklong seasons don't cut it for me

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#10860 Old 1st Sep 2021 at 9:28 AM
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Originally Posted by HarVee
What features do you all use the most in the game? I rarely use Uni features, but I find myself using AL, FT, and Seasons features the most.
Well, I only have the first three EPs (University, Nightlife, OFB) so obviously I don't use any features from the later ones. I have added OFB and University to my original game, but, when I think about it, I mostly use the features from Nightlife and base game, which I've had from day one. (I started with Double Deluxe.)

Probably the feature I use most is un-scored outings, typically formed on the fly by (if necessary) inviting friends round, and then using the Ask...To form Casual Group...Just for Fun interaction. Once I learned how easy to play dates are, between Sims who love each other, I also play a lot of dates, and the pleasure of seeing two Sims ecstatically happy in each other's company never palls for me. My Sims tend to have very full love lives (possibly because I have none myself).

I have though studiously ignored the whole "chemistry" system, giving all my CAS Sims the same turn-ons and turn-offs as myself. (It does help me to empathise with them!) Actually I gave Andrew (my very first CAS Sim) Facial Hair as a turn-off (he's gay but he doesn't like beards -- they get in the way when kissing!). But every single Sim I've made since (starting with his mum Gloria) has Vampirism as a turn-off, reflecting my dislike of supernaturals and the occult. As for turn-ons (though I have mentioned them before) I'm embarrassed to say, but I think you can guess from the clothes my Sims wear! They tend to sleep in their underwear, not bother getting dressed when they get up, and they spend a lot of time in the hot tub (usually a Love Tub).

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#10861 Old 1st Sep 2021 at 9:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AndrewGloria
They tend to sleep in their underwear, not bother getting dressed when they get up, and they spend a lot of time in the hot tub (usually a Love Tub).

I think I am one of your sims, except I don't have a hot-tub, so I spend all day in a hot bath instead!

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#10862 Old 1st Sep 2021 at 1:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HarVee
What features do you all use the most in the game? I rarely use Uni features, but I find myself using AL, FT, and Seasons features the most.

Ho god, I just realized I barely use any of the EP features... I used to be really into apartments, but kinda stopped because the buildings "looked bad" compared to ones from MTS... which is a strange reason because I barely pay attention to what buildings look like on the outside, and on the inside they were pretty nice. I also barely use uni these days... ironic.

Maybe the downtown from nightlife, and the chemistry systems, those are pretty fun. And the aspiration benefits, especially the romance chemistry boost, that's vital with a mod to make falling in love and crush harder with low chemistry. I also like to include driveways and at least the cheapest car these days, I don't know why. Also, changing the seasons and gardening, I kinda started doing those more often. I should also similarly have uni students and apartments, now that I think about it.

And does simply causing Drama (tm) count as feature?
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#10863 Old 1st Sep 2021 at 2:35 PM
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Originally Posted by HarVee
What features do you all use the most in the game? I rarely use Uni features, but I find myself using AL, FT, and Seasons features the most.


Nightlife and Freetime are the ones I consider "essential" for my gameplay. I probably would have included Seasons too if I had it installed, but I'm assuming it took a toll on my computer or something because I've had it uninstalled for years and there must have been a reason for it because I really like it. Besides the weather, I miss fishing and the hanging out interaction from it.
I think both NL and FT had such all-encompassing features that it's hard for me to imagine my game without it. Many of my sims live in or visit Downtown, and many have the pleasure aspiration. Chemistry usually play a big part in my sims' love- and sex-life. Lately I've been playing more with groups and outings, aside from dates.
Freetime has my favourite career tracks. I also really enjoy playing with various hobbies for my sims and the items that come with it. I'll also regularly check in on and give out the aspiration perks and secondary aspirations. The knowledge "summon aliens" is the one I like best and will only actively attempt making sims alien-pregnant through that rather than trying to have them abducted via stargazing. The ability to walk to community lots is also one I utilize a lot, especially since not many of my sims have cars.

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#10864 Old 1st Sep 2021 at 3:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HarVee
What features do you all use the most in the game? I rarely use Uni features, but I find myself using AL, FT, and Seasons features the most.

I send my sims to University, if they have the want; when I lock the want depends on their interest in school. So, I use University a decent amount.

I use Nightlife a lot. I love sending my sims Downtown, the dates are a cute idea, outings can be a blast, Grand Vampires are delightfully goofy, and the Chemistry system is just brilliant. It gives you an idea of how attractive sims find each other. Nightlife is my most utilised expansion!

Open for Business... I forget I have it installed. I've thought about starting some businesses up, though, because I've done it before and I remember having fun.

Pets... I'm not a massive fan of pets, personally. I get them for my sims sometimes if they want, but for the most part, they just exist. And the small animals I wind up getting for them... forget about them, too.

Seasons, I love it! The changing of the seasons and having the ability to put away leftovers is amazing. I can't imagine a game where I can't put away leftovers!

Bon Boyage, I just like it because of the jewelery option. Going on holiday is neat and the secret lots add that extra replay value, but it's not something I do often.

Freetime is really good, in my opinion. I love the hobbies system, talent badges, secondary aspirations, and aspiration benefits. I especially love the secondary aspirations, because it adds that extra bit of dimension to a sim's personality, as do the hobbies.

Apartment Life is my most underutilised! Witches are cool, but that's all I got from this EP. I've began to use apartments for fresh graduates who don't have enough money to buy a house and their parents aren't willing to help, but other than that... I don't use it all that much.

In short, I mostly use University, Nightlife, Seasons, and Freetime.

When a game is predictable, it's boring.
That goes for any medium that isn't life.
That's why The Sims 2 is my favourite sims game.
It has elements of unpredictability and everything feels more involved.
The Sims 4 is another story altogether...
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#10865 Old 1st Sep 2021 at 3:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HarVee
What features do you all use the most in the game? I rarely use Uni features, but I find myself using AL, FT, and Seasons features the most.


I don't like playing apartments. Perhaps, if the vanilla game had some of the options mods offered today, like shopping enabled, etc. I may have - but I can say that I did play all the apartments in the bin once and that was enough for me. Yet I do use the build/buy stuff - a lot!
I actually think I use all the other features:
Lots of owned businesses, which I have enjoyed playing even in the vanilla game;
FreeTime going very well with owned businesses and the pottery shop is doing great in my hood;
Seasons is lovely and I have some farms going too,
and, as everyone knows by now, I love Uni.
Some of my sims have pets too and there is a sim who owns a pet shop too.
And I still like the basegame townies
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#10866 Old 1st Sep 2021 at 6:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HarVee
What features do you all use the most in the game? I rarely use Uni features, but I find myself using AL, FT, and Seasons features the most.


In no particular order, I use the most out of these packs:

Apartment Life: I'm not a fan of the apartments because they're glitchy, so I mainly use the witches that come with this pack. My favorite occult in Sims 2.
University: If I never played Wants based, I'd send all my teens to Uni every single time - out of character or not! I really enjoy the gameplay. I also like the new careers, clothing & objects it came with so I use the features quite a lot.
Open for Business: I use this EP a ton! I love running businesses but I'm not so fond of running restaurants. Also... Give me an army of Servos!
Freetime: I use it quite often. I enjoy the talent badges, hobbies and the activities.
Nightlife: I send my Sims downtown pretty often and I like how the cars worked.

I do use features from Pets & Seasons but they're just sort of there so I don't count them as features I use often. As for Bon Voyage, I do send my Sims on vacation but only once in a blue moon. :D
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#10867 Old 4th Sep 2021 at 12:43 AM
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I think I am one of your sims, except I don't have a hot-tub, so I spend all day in a hot bath instead!
A few weeks ago, at the back of a Dobbies' Garden Centre, I actually saw a Real Life hot tub for sale. Which made me think how familiar these things are to my Sims, whereas I had never before even seen a real one myself! The price tag of the real one was comparable with the §6,500 my Sims have to pay. It's well beyond what I can afford, and anyway -- a problem I share with a few of my Sims -- there really isn't room in our back garden. Now not many of my Sims can afford §6,500 either, but most of them can lay their hands on the 20,000 Aspiration points needed for a Love Tub. So I wonder if I've got any unused Aspiration Points in my Inventory . . .

. . . No. Even if I could get a hot tub or a love tub and put it in my back garden, I wouldn't be able to do what I really want with it -- soak and chat with some of my lovely Sims . . . and maybe even get a cuddle from one of them. I'll have to revert to my original plan of somehow becoming a Sim and moving to Veronaville. There's plenty of room for a hot tub in the back garden of 30 Poet Place, the little house that I want for myself in Veronaville.

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#10868 Old 4th Sep 2021 at 4:13 PM
Believe me, AndrewGloria, they are maintenance hogs with limited lifespans. We have a dead one, my parents' second, they've owned the place for thirty-five years now. It's been dead for over a decade. It costs more to get rid of it than anyone wants to pay, and then we're left with a hole in the deck that needs to either be rebuilt to get rid of the hole or instal a new hot tub in the same place. The deck needs rebuilding anyway . . . someday we'll get to it. I'd rather have a sauna.

They are, however a fairly standard feature at mid-range-and-up hotels in the US, so if you ever happen to travel overseas, take advantage of someone else doing the maintenance and enjoy a soak!

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#10869 Old 4th Sep 2021 at 4:37 PM
I saw a picture that someone posted on social media about an outside bathtub they installed, which sounds like absolute heaven. They built a trellis and pergola around it so that the plants gave them privacy, and they had an outdoor electric water heater to fill it. Nice drink, good book- I could go for that, watch the sunset and listen to the birds.
I often give my sims outdoor bathtubs, and one character from Sims 3 (Lucky Perkins) has an outside bath too! After all, who wants to sit in a tub of water with other people (except for Sim Sample)? I like the bathtub because I can get away from people!
(I do love hot tubs for my sims though- maintenance free, I think they were originally supposed to be breakable but they took that out of the game before release- and very social. Make friends fast, and gain comfort and fun! But, they get cold in winter even though the tub is heated. That's when the saunas come in handy!)

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#10870 Old 4th Sep 2021 at 6:03 PM
I was doing a little photoshoot for a household in my BACC, when Ricardo did this while looking right at me. So unnerving.

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#10871 Old 4th Sep 2021 at 6:49 PM
Never had anybody rich enough to move into 210 Wright Way, so I never played that house (https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/210_Wright_Way). That place is huge! I moved in Alexander Goth's family and even with three kids and a dedicated game room, I have no need for the entire third floor. What do I do with that?

There's got to be some way I can make use of that empty attic that would be fun storytelling. Maybe he'll stash Lucy up there and get married again.
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#10872 Old 4th Sep 2021 at 7:08 PM
Oh! That's the lot that if Don goes through with the wedding to Cassandra the newly wed Lotharios move into.

Any Family sim worth her salt can tell you exactly what to do with all those empty rooms. Have ten babies, that's what!

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#10873 Old 4th Sep 2021 at 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sturlington
Never had anybody rich enough to move into 210 Wright Way, so I never played that house (https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/210_Wright_Way). That place is huge! I moved in Alexander Goth's family and even with three kids and a dedicated game room, I have no need for the entire third floor. What do I do with that?

There's got to be some way I can make use of that empty attic that would be fun storytelling. Maybe he'll stash Lucy up there and get married again.


I remember using the familyfunds cheat to move into that house when I got Seasons as a kid, it was my favorite house to play; except for the times lightning would strike the random shrubbery in the backyard and I would call the fire department... only for the fire to put itself out by the time the NPC got to it .

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#10874 Old 5th Sep 2021 at 4:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HarVee
What features do you all use the most in the game? I rarely use Uni features, but I find myself using AL, FT, and Seasons features the most.


Apartments, Seasons and University. All my hoods have apartments and a custom boarding house for the very poor (rooms start at $60 a week, and with bunks two Sims can share that space!); a lot of my Sims grow their own food; and so many go to university that I got Cyjon's shorter semesters, as it can get boring otherwise. Most of my hoods have subhoods, but other than that I don't make much use of the Nightlife and OFB features.

If I could only have one EP, it would be Seasons, and poor Sims would have to start out mortgaged to the hilt.
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#10875 Old 6th Sep 2021 at 6:27 AM
I've got a rudimentary map worked out for the 6 different SC4 terrains I'll need for my medieval world... now if only I could come up with NAMES for more than like two of the kingdoms there! Not being able to refer to places by name makes it way harder to come up with ideas for them!

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