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#1 Old 24th Mar 2022 at 5:32 PM

This user has the following games installed:

Sims 3, Late Night, Generations, Pets
Default Game is pixelated/showing edges after win10 install
Hello, I hope somebody can help me with this.

I recently installed windows 10, updated the nvidia drivers and changed the nvidia settings (the way I had in windows7).
But my game is pixelated/showing edges. Examples:
https://ibb.co/bz2S9wx
https://ibb.co/wgDrLFf
https://ibb.co/92p1z74

My nvidia settings:
https://ibb.co/tDTbLFp

I'm using the same graphicscard.sgr that I had on win7 (that I added my gpu to it years ago and always worked well).
I noticed that the Device Config file said:
Name (database): NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti [Found: 1, Matched: 1]
Texture memory: 32MB <<OVERRIDE>>

So I followed these instructions to change the graphicsrules.sgr. From
seti textureMemory 32
setb textureMemorySizeOK false


to

seti textureMemory 1024
# setb textureMemorySizeOK false

https://modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=560928


But the same edges are still there, I never had this issue in windows7.
I've been searching for a solution online, but nothing seems to fix it.

Does anyone knows why this is happening?



Any help is appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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#2 Old 24th Mar 2022 at 7:17 PM
Quote: Originally posted by venusprincess
Hello, I hope somebody can help me with this.

I recently installed windows 10, updated the nvidia drivers and changed the nvidia settings (the way I had in windows7).
But my game is pixelated/showing edges. Examples:
https://ibb.co/bz2S9wx
https://ibb.co/wgDrLFf
https://ibb.co/92p1z74

My nvidia settings:
https://ibb.co/tDTbLFp

I'm using the same graphicscard.sgr that I had on win7 (that I added my gpu to it years ago and always worked well).
I noticed that the Device Config file said:
Name (database): NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti [Found: 1, Matched: 1]
Texture memory: 32MB <<OVERRIDE>>

So I followed these instructions to change the graphicsrules.sgr. From
seti textureMemory 32
setb textureMemorySizeOK false


to

seti textureMemory 1024
# setb textureMemorySizeOK false

https://modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=560928


But the same edges are still there, I never had this issue in windows7.
I've been searching for a solution online, but nothing seems to fix it.

Does anyone knows why this is happening?



Any help is appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Not sure this will help, but is edge smoothing on in the game settings? Also, I think it is right click the start icon. Go to properties. I ntabs, click compatability. You can change that the program will run as in Win 7 or 8. Not sure that really works, as Microsoft does as they please. Also, reduce contrast settings for display will soften edges.

Honestly, when I was forced to a new laptop, it took a week of tweaking to get things to look right. (((
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#4 Old 25th Mar 2022 at 4:22 PM
Quote: Originally posted by LadySmoks
Not sure this will help, but is edge smoothing on in the game settings? Also, I think it is right click the start icon. Go to properties. I ntabs, click compatability. You can change that the program will run as in Win 7 or 8. Not sure that really works, as Microsoft does as they please. Also, reduce contrast settings for display will soften edges.

Honestly, when I was forced to a new laptop, it took a week of tweaking to get things to look right. (((


Yes the edge smoothing is on max. I chamged the compatibilty thing to windows7, but it's the same.
Thanks for the help tips, I had no idea I could change the programs compatability xD
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#5 Old 25th Mar 2022 at 4:24 PM
Quote: Originally posted by nitromon
I just posted in a thread whether to upgrade to Win 10, everyone said no problem but I knew something like this would happen. When you upgrade, you upgrade all the drivers along with it and it is bound to make things bork or at the very least not like before.

Now you have 2 separate issues. Pixelation and jagged edge. These are 2 separate issues and need to be dealt with separately.

Jagged Edge:
This has to do with your anti-aliasing. I've seen something like this before where the AA in the game doesn't work anymore, but it was on a AMD/Radeon chip, not Nvidia. I can't say for sure if the driver is the cause, but I can tell you that your AA setting there is unconventional. Under "mode" you have "enhance application" mode, which I never recommend. Either go with the AA from the game or use Nvidia's AA, but not both. So why don't you give it a try and see if that resolves your issue.

I have it set to "default" which is application controlled, for both "mode" and "setting." If you wish to use the Nvidia's AA, I suggest this below:



Pixelation:
This is actually a much more complicated issue because it could be nothing wrong and just how the driver is. If that is the case, there is nothing you can do about it. However, what I come to understand a lot is that much of texture pixelation comes from gamma correction. The Win 10 driver may correct the gamma too bright. If that is case, you can adjust the gamma correction in the Nvidia driver, assuming you are on a desktop. If you are on a laptop with Optimus, you must adjust the gamma correction for "Sims 3" via the Intel driver setting.

But that is if we're lucky. If this doesn't work, then it does go into driver rendering and that can be a lot of things which require trial and error. I can only say under texture quality, I have it default at Quality instead of "high quality" and also I do not use ambient occlusion, which if I remember correctly does actually pixelate the graphics.


Thank you for the help.
I knew changing to windows 10 would give me issues, but I had no choice. Cause since windows 7 doesn't have support anymore, I couldn't install any windows update on the new harddrive.

I changed the AA mode and setting to application controlled, but it showed no difference. I turned off ambient occlusion, and texture quality to Quality.
I wanted to try the nvidia AA settings that you mentioned. But I don't have the options "Enable Maxwell.... (MFAA)" and "Texture Filtering - LOD Bias (DX) ".
My graphics are a bit old, it's MSI GTX750 Ti TwinFrozr OC 2GB DDR5.

The gamma correction is at 1.00. Should it be else, or is it a trial and error situation?
https://ibb.co/2gLR7wt

When I ran the compatibility troubleshooting, it said this:
https://ibb.co/T1c2TD0
Am I suppose to change anything on this?
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#6 Old 25th Mar 2022 at 5:31 PM
So... turns out that I'm an idiot and this jagged edges was happening cause I have my computer scale set to 125% cause I can't read with 100%.
When I turn it back to 100%, the jagged edges seem to be reduced in game, they are still happening in cas though.
Perhaps I can't do anything about the cas part, but for the in game, I just have to remember to set back to 100% when I opened the game.

Thank you both for the help! I already learned new things
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#7 Old 25th Mar 2022 at 6:55 PM
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...rce-experience/
I use this to run sims. You can set the FPS but you can also customize how you want your settings to run for the game. My gaming laptop came with it and windows 10 installed so I ran the Sims3 with it and it has made a big difference. Not sure if it will help you but it could be worth the try.
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#9 Old 30th Mar 2022 at 4:44 PM
Quote: Originally posted by marydehoyos
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...rce-experience/
I use this to run sims. You can set the FPS but you can also customize how you want your settings to run for the game. My gaming laptop came with it and windows 10 installed so I ran the Sims3 with it and it has made a big difference. Not sure if it will help you but it could be worth the try.


Thank you, I actually uninstalled ge force experience, cause it gave me issues in win7. The drivers are updated though.

Edit: typo
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#10 Old 30th Mar 2022 at 4:44 PM
Quote: Originally posted by nitromon
That must be a Win 10....."


I'm sorry for the late reply, I haven't been able to use the computer.

On my previous reply, I mentioned that scalling to 100% fixed the jagged edges in game. So I set the computer display settings back to 125% (under "display settings" > scale and layout) and in the TS3W exe I set the dpi to override aplication. And this fixed the problem in game, at least I was happy with the result.
But today, I loaded the game and it's back to being jagged edge, I dind't changed anything at all. So I tried all options again and now I can't get it back to how it was on friday.

On friday it looked like this:
https://ibb.co/fthpFVK
https://ibb.co/1mKjRL6

Comparing pic of friday with now:
https://ibb.co/bdj0xxk

It was sorta fixed and now it's back to jagged edges, and I don't even know why.

I play in full mode with the game resolution on max.


AA game smooth edges compare:
https://ibb.co/Gv1qMcS

I downloaded the nvidiaProfileInspector and chose the profile The sims 3 and chose the options you mentioned, but it looked exactly the same in game.

I just don't understand how it was fixed on friday and now it's not.
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#12 Old 1st Apr 2022 at 3:34 PM
1) It's my fault, I should've mentioned in the first post. I'm on a desktop.

It's alright if you are repetitive I appreciate all your help.


2) The game AA on and off has a difference, it's not very noticeable, but it's there. I can notice when I slide through the two screenshots.
With nvidia aa off, like is set on your NI settings:
https://ibb.co/XVdmkfk
I don't know if it's noticeable side by side.
My NI settings are these:
https://ibb.co/FwnsgdY

3) I'm on a pc. It's windows 10, but I set the compatibility of sims 3 to windows 7.

4) I downloaded the version nvidiaProfileInspector 2.3.0.13
Sims 3 doesn't show executables on the green line though. The other games show it, but not sims 3.
When I click add application to current profile and choose ts3 and ts3w, it gives this error: https://ibb.co/PWs7FWz
So I suppose it's already there.



The deviceconfig:
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#14 Old 9th Apr 2022 at 4:08 PM
Quote: Originally posted by nitromon
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Sorry, the photos are switched, cause it's definitely better with the game AA on.

I don't use HQ mods.
I did edited the graphics rule, because the textures were at 32mb. So today I placed back the original graphics rule file. But with the original file, device config says "Texture memory: 32MB <<OVERRIDE>>".
And the jagged edges are exactly the same.



I've now edited the correct profile on NPI. On Nvidia control panel I never edited the sims profile, the changes where in global settings.
https://ibb.co/nQCWXgG


There's no difference between NI AA on or off.
I turned nvidia AA on (as seen on NI), and turned the game AA off. And there is no difference between NI AA and IG AA.
https://ibb.co/tQCbHQT
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#16 Old 10th Apr 2022 at 3:32 PM
Damn win 10.

Yes, I updated the driver through the website when I installed win10 and there was even another driver released after that, and I installed that latest one (before posting the first post here).

Yes the nvidia "adjust image setting" is exactly like yours.

I guess there's nothing to do then. Thank you for helping me and trying to figure it out
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#17 Old 10th Apr 2022 at 7:33 PM
Quote: Originally posted by venusprincess
Damn win 10.

Yes, I updated the driver through the website when I installed win10 and there was even another driver released after that, and I installed that latest one (before posting the first post here).

Yes the nvidia "adjust image setting" is exactly like yours.

I guess there's nothing to do then. Thank you for helping me and trying to figure it out

I understand that you are using desktop, but I had issues for a long time with my Asus laptop graphics quality. It only got better after playing with Raedon settings for some reason, even though game is set to run on Nividia. Just a thought.
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#19 Old 11th Apr 2022 at 8:04 PM
Quote: Originally posted by nitromon
Choose the 3rd option on that menu and move the scale to max quality. Good luck!


It already is

But I noticed something else. Since you mentioned that the nvidia AA wasn't working, I lowered the quality on that 3D option and it showed no change at all. If I'm lowering quality, the game should look worst.
So now I think that something is wrong with the nvidia panel. Because any change that I make in nvidia panel, as zero effect in game. It's like the changes and options are not applying.

So I will have to post or find a solution for that on nvidia forums. And then try again all your tips.

Thank you for all the help :lovestruc
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#20 Old 11th Apr 2022 at 8:05 PM
Quote: Originally posted by LadySmoks
I understand that you are using desktop, but I had issues for a long time with my Asus laptop graphics quality. It only got better after playing with Raedon settings for some reason, even though game is set to run on Nividia. Just a thought.


Thank you for the tip but I don't have radeon at all.
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#22 Old 13th Apr 2022 at 1:05 PM
Yes, I modified the global settings first and then the sims 3settings on NI.

I don't have any other games installed, I can try installing a game on the weekend, to try it.

I also tried older drivers, the ones that I tried didn't work either.
Perhaps there's specific drivers that work better with ts3. I will ask around on tumblr, which nvidia driver people are using. (I read somewhere that you don't use nvidia, if I remember correctly) I read several of your comments on different posts, before making this post xD

I also made a post on nvidia helping forums, but no reply so far.
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