Count me out of the last round. Sorry everyone
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I would very much appreciate it if anyone would like to give me feedback on any of my play-along entries so far: Round 1 - Loner, Round 2 - Beaker and Round 3 - Curious.
[EDIT] The Singles have now moved in and I'm taking the pictures. I've had to rearrange some of the furniture to make it usable, but haven't had to spend any more money.
Thanks Justpetro for the comments -- and the scores! .
( have done it rather quickly, but I think it is very close to the points I would have given you. Judging has probably taught me more about building than anything else I think I know why it is so hard to win a contest now. The things that stood out for me in the stars of this contest was the amazing attention they paid to detail (I am not sure I am even able to do that). I also really sighed with relief when the scores came out and I could see I am in line with the other judges. I know you are a play along and these things are not so important for that, but I hope it helps anyway).
Round 1 - Loner - Total: 21.5/30
Building skill : 4
Interior Decor 3.5
The landscaping is nice - especially at the path; I don't like the red windows and doors
Decor - you have a lot of empty spaces; the walls and floors are fine, though, although some of the colours seem a bit bright - it is mostly the emptiness that bothers me and not enough attention to detail.
Suitability - I am not sure if a hair dresser is the right choice for a loner like Ajay.
Round 2 Beaker - 22/25
I think it looks very much like the original - so
Build skill 4
Outside: 4 (I do like the fence)
Interior: 4 (Still empty, but not as empty as the other one, I feel the television set should be against a wall so that it can be plugged in.
Suitability - 5
Playability - 5
Round 3 Curious 22/25
Build skills - 4 - I like what you did to make it Curious-like on the roof; but there is a lot of other wasted space on the outside.
Outside - 4 - Like the cacti, not sure you did enough with the rest of the yard.
Interior Decor: 4 - the empty spaces again - I know it is hard to fill them up, but it is needed. I would like the brothers to have double beds as well. They are grown men after all and will probably need them at some stage. I am not sure if there is any excuse for that green toilet
Suitability - 5
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For one thing. I confess to not having the patience to pay attention to small details ... clutter, garden arrangements. CC etc. I try to design the lot with a possible upload in mind, and I like to keep the list no more than a dozen CC items or so. This does not mean I don't futz around in my game ... I think the Art Deco Hotel I submitted for the building challenge (the revised one) might show a glimmer or two of that. But it's kind of in my nature not to load any lot with small details ... not even a contest lot. I keep getting this voice wondering, "Am I overdoing it?", and I tend to restrain myself ... probably too much.
Secondly, landscaping is NOT my strong point.
And thirdly, I prefer flat lots. Again, I have a thought of a future upload in my head if I enter a contest or challenge (even though I don't often upload my stuff because I have this silly habit of NOT making them in a fresh game, and my good game is hug-bugged, so the only way to make an upload as safe as we possibly know for downloaders would be to rebuild the lot entirely in the fresh game. When WILL I learn to make a base lot in the new game FIRST? Le sigh.) The lighthouse I did in the last contest actually had wee little hills in the sand, and that's as far as I've gone! Oh, and some of the dance studio's gardens are very slightly elevated (drainage, you know). Maybe it's a start?
Wonderful lots, all, and I hope that some of you will upload them here soon!
Thanks to ALL free-site creators, admins and mods.
RIP Sunni ... truly a ray of light.
Okay, I have all the judges scores and comments and will work on that today. Expect scores to be up in a couple of days.
I think this contest was difficult! All the contestants can build and all the entries were good, and many of them were very good. When I say attention to detail, I don't mean clutter or custom content (although some of the cc were spectacular).It is also about the way the rooms were divided, if the rooms inside are of the same quality (pretty bathroom next to ugly bedroom thing); As for landscaping: the outside in this contest was worth 5 points - that was judged on the wall paper and the garden. So it was not all about plants, the space around the house should have been used to earn those 5 points.
Judging was really, really hard!
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I mean remembering to put a small flower here or an interesting shelf item there. Bathrooms with a step-up hot tub. That sort of thing. If I had $5 for every time I saw so many entries and thought, "Why didn't I think of that?", I could make some money out of the deal!
I still admire you judges, by the way. These entries all looked great in their own way. Great contest!
And in a totally, totally off-topic observation ... now if you delete a thread, it's deleted? As in all traces gone? Not even "thread/post deleted by _____"? Knowing my reputation, I'm almost tempted to deliberately delete this post to see if I'm seeing correctly. I'll behave, though!
Thanks to ALL free-site creators, admins and mods.
RIP Sunni ... truly a ray of light.
|Judge One||5||5||4.5||5||5||24.5||Outstanding entry. I feel the bedroom walls are a bit stark and the family could afford better office chairs (for comfort) with the budget.|
|Judge Two||4.5||4.5||4.5||4.5||4||22||Not a huge difference to the original although you've improved it. The grass is rather overgrown in the corner - maybe PT was persuaded not to mow because of the flowers? Good use of terrain paint. Good interior deco. I'm not seeing reference to heroes for Johnny or dolphins for Jenny. I don't like ladders for access to upper levels but I guess there was lack of space for stairs.|
|Judge Three||5||5||5||5||5||25||Absolutely phenomenal! All needs met and a very good job of telling what is for decoration/what isn’t and what you did for pictures that you then corrected. Very much appreciated!|
|Judge One||4.5||4.5||4.5||5||5||23.5||I like the rooms for the girls- they do show their personalities off.|
|Judge Two||4||4||4.5||4.5||5||22||Not much different to the original. I like the decking. Maybe a pathway from the car? I like the shaded seating area outside by the pool. Strange place for darts. Maybe some sort of roofing in the corner there too so they can play when it rains or have some shade. A strange mix of tropical and desert plants outside. Perhaps you could have decided on one style and really gone to town. It looks a bit sparse. Not much space for diving. Putting the diving board lengthways would have been better. Nice interior deco but no bedside lights. I can imagine the girls stumbling to bed in the dark after turning off the main light. Looks like a bit of empty space in the gym.|
|Judge Three||5||4||4||5||3.5||21.5||The house is quite nice but the area hardest hit in the rating was the suitability category. I would have expected a phone in the bedroom or a mention that the lady in question (Chloe) had a cell phone for our lady is a romance sim. At least her room is pink which hints of romance. Kristen seemed very well done. Either Lola or Erin must have had the lie detector-politics or psychics either one could use that. Perhaps it is both but it wasn’t mentioned and was in a bedroom (so I was left to wonder). I did notice the party keg however so our good time girl was taken care of. Therefore I only gave a 3.5 as the family was only partially taken into account. The sofa bed was a nice touch however|
|Judge One||4.5||4.5||4.5||5||5||23.5||Good work and I like the horses!|
|Judge Two||4||4.5||5||5||5||23.5||I love the horses and stable. I can't help but feel there should be more plants or trees to provide shade especially around the pool. Nice interior deco. Some decoration in the upper hallway perhaps - it looks a bit bland. Chloe's room is suitably romantic. Probably one of the best I've seen for her. The roof looks a bit odd with the dormers sticking out. They serve no purpose.|
|Judge Three||3.5||5||5||5||5||23.5||The family was very well done! And the decor really reflected that. The house on the outside still looked very much like the original house- so I knocked off some for that- but the introduction of the horses and the pool/patio set up made up for it in the outside decor.|
|Judge One||4.5||5||5||5||5||24.5||Now we’re talking ðŸ˜Š Stunning small lot.|
|Judge Two||4.5||4.5||5||5||5||24||You didn't have a pic of the original building. I like the log cabin exterior. Nice interior deco - suitably rustic to go with the exterior. Strange to have the bathroom at the front in full view of neighbours. Nice job overall.|
|Judge Three||5||5||5||5||5||25||This was very nicely done and fit the requirements to a “t” and is a very beautiful masculine house- but there was no comparison picture included of the original house to be found! I did find one on the sims wiki to make certain there were enough changes done to the house tho so no harm done.|
|Judge One||5||5||5||5||5||25||Full marks from me — perfect lot. (I would not mind sitting in the creepy old lady’s chair once in a while).|
|Judge Two||5||5||5||5||4.5||24.5||I love that you have vehicles for each of the girls. Lovely interior deco as always. I don't really get a sense of romance for Chloe just from the colour pink. Her bedroom looks more suited for an older woman. Loved the little rooms off the bedroom. I nearly didn't spot the ouija board and the tarot cards! Well done.|
|Judge Three||5||5||5||5||5||25||Masterfully done! I love the little touches like the tarot cards- the candles and the phone on the tub. Chloe’s apartment screams girly girl and the heart rug says it all. Definitely a totally different take on the house.|
|Judge One||5||5||4.5||5||5||24.5||Great quality like all your entries.|
|Judge Two||5||4.5||5||4.5||5||24||I like that the house looks completely different to the original. I couldn't figure out what the large room between the kitchen and lounge was. It looked quite empty. Love the seamless kitchen. Cute little pond and the greenhouse was a nice idea|
|Judge Three||5||5||5||5||5||25||Really nice job! Really nicely built and very well suited to the family. I assumed magic/psychics was interchangeable as well|
|Judge One||5||5||5||5||5||25||A rather ugly lot — however it is extremely original and full of surprises — and as usual immaculate attention to detail. I like the laundry — and the mop and bucket — and I love the barbershop singers’ pic.|
|Judge Two||4||5||5||5||5||24||I'm not sure about changing a community lot to residential. That was a bit of a liberty that perhaps should've been asked for first. On the other hand you've made a pretty useless lot into something that's interesting. The separate buildings lend nicely to a military outpost. It sort of looks post-apocalyptic. Another of your lots which made me laugh. I love your attention to detail.|
|Judge Three||5||5||5||5||5||25||Nailed it- in quite the imaginative way loved the twist on Tank’s character.|
|Judge One||5||5||4.5||5||5||24.5||Some emptiness in 2 of the bathrooms — a pot plant or ornament could have filled those. Still an outstanding entry well done.|
|Judge Two||5||5||5||4.5||4.5||24||I liked the idea of a floor for each girl and that it looked totally different to the original. Loved the garden. You put a lot of effort into it. The bathrooms look really big. I'm not getting a sense of Kristen's love of sport.|
|Judge Three||4.5||5||4.5||5||3.5||22.5||The outside is beautifully done. I like the garden/pool area. The inside is nice tho the bathrooms are a tad large and empty. A bit more deco would have helped or slightly smaller bathrooms. I took a half point off each part (build and indoor deco) as it could be solved either way- instead of a whole point off on one or the other. The only area that was really lacking was the suitability requirement. There was a nod to the girls’ wants but it was not the predominant feeling or vibe coming from each apartment. I figured out which apartment was whose with two of them-but it was a coin toss till I saw the name Lola’s office on the picture name.|
The winner is......
With a grand total of 296 points.
Fanta all round, I think!
(Extra one for Petro the barkeep )
Originally Posted by Judge 2
I'm not sure about changing a community lot to residential. That was a bit of a liberty that perhaps should've been asked for first.
Well, I did expect to be disqualified for that, as well as for all the other liberties I took on that one.
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@randomlyyellstuff came second and @simsample third.
Love the Fanta picture. :D
Thank you judges!
Ellu, you have really knocked it out of the park! I will even have a Fanta.
To all the other contestants; congratulations to you for completing the round - all your entries were great, and all of you made judging very difficult,
Now, can we talk about what we are going to drink after the Fanta?
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Do y'all mind if I go steal some of your Fanta? @Justpetro how about we go to that place over in Ellu's Strangetown?
Thank you jo and thank you to all the judges for judging. It's been a pleasure to take part in this contest.
Nice Rachel we're having.
I do want to mention one contestant here - incredible progress and improvement, nailing the last round - great work, @Simoleon37
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Thanks Justpetro for posting those scores just as if I was in the contest proper. I think they really confirm where I am as a Sims builder. I score well on playability and suitability. That shouldn't surprise me. I suppose I really build for my Sims and let them be the judges of what I have built. Which I think I think is fair enough -- they have to live in the houses I give them! If they tell me that what I've built isn't usable, I'll change it soon enough! Suitability is about building a house for the Sims who will live in it, and I certainly do that. I think Jo's last contest helped me in that respect. Suitability and storytelling go together -- I'm building a house (or other lot) for the story I plan to tell in it. My stories are all joint productions from me and my Sims. In general I paint the broad brushstrokes and they add the details. Free Will is always on, so they always have an input. At the moment I'm play-testing the Singles in 57 Road to Nowhere. Only I'm not just play-testing -- I'm playing them. I sent Kristen up to the attic room to test that she could use the loft ladder (which I had placed with MoveObjects on) and various things in the room, and I had to move some things around before she could use them. That's play-testing. But later in the day, when the Welcome Wagon guests were in the house, I sent Chloe on an extended shopping trip to buy sexier underwear. She took Erin with her and bought stuff for Erin as well: the stuff she bought for Erin was more demure than she bought for herself, but it was more revealing than what Maxis had given her. There's something interesting developing between Chloe and Erin: it's just friendship at the moment but who knows where it's going? (Maybe Chloe knows?) That's not play-testing: that's playing! And I can't resist doing it -- it's what I have been looking forward to doing all the time I was building. Not the thing between Chloe and Erin, which I certainly didn't anticipate, but all the time I was building, I was looking forward to meeting these girls and seeing how things worked out when they shared the house.
The green toilet in the Curious house? Well there's rather a lot of green furniture and furnishings in that house. But there are two young children with green skin, and the brothers think that plenty of green in the dÃ©cor will help the children to feel at home and relaxed. There's a lot of green in my house for the Singles too, but then there are two grown-up "green" children living there, and I reckon Lola had the lion's say in deciding how to decorate the communal parts of the house. The Curious brothers single beds? I suppose I just gave them the kind of bed they had in their old house. They have various colours of bedclothes, but they all have green canopies. I might have given at least some of them double beds if I'd had a double version of that decidedly futuristic-looking bed. Maybe a CC one exists -- I'm afraid I didn't bother to look.
Clutter? I'm incorrigibly messy in Real Life and am surrounded by unnecessary clutter. To the extent that I sometimes have "routing issues"! Maybe my uncluttered Simming is a bit of a reaction against that. Perhaps too I'm even influenced by my teenage Sim friend Andrew. Andrew, a Virgo, is a real neat freak. He hates clutter. He would have ten pink fits if he saw my room! I can hear him saying, "I don't know how you can live in this mess!" He'd throw three quarters of my stuff out without even asking. And the thing is, in my heart I know he's right. (He invariably is!) I suppose I don't put things into my Sims world that my Sims won't actually use -- well not to much of it anyway. I too don't think I'll ever achieve the build quality to win a Sims building contest. I'm not sure if I even want to. I'm too keen to get on with the really fun stuff of playing the lot. In truth I think I might actually prefer being a play-along rather than a contestant. I feel it gives me a little more flexibility in how I interpret the brief -- I can build what appeals to me, without worrying about dropping a few points. In my normal gameplay my Sims tend to adapt and improve their houses over their lifetimes as they live in them. So the idea of them moving into a "perfect" house from day 1 is a little strange to me. So the Curious brothers may well change to double beds in the future if any of them feel the need. At the moment providing a good, safe and stimulating environment for young Titus and Andromeda to grow up is more important to them.
Anyway this contest has certainly brought some benefits to some of my Sims. The Curious brothers have now got a castle to live in. And I'd never have given the Singles an unlimited budget if Jo hadn't done that for me. (Lola says, "Thanks, Jo!") They've now each with their own double room in a well-appointed substantial dwelling, that still leaves plenty of scope for future development.
I think I've only got one more picture (Kristen's room) to take before I make my final selection of pictures and post. (Though I admit I can be a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to writing those posts.) I'll do it as soon as Real Life lets me. Hope that's ok.
[EDIT] P.S. I know some people are trying to contact me by PM and my inbox is full. I'll clear some stuff out of it as soon I've got my play-along round 4 entry posted. I reckon I've caused Jo more than enough bother by being so slow, and I owe it to her to make that my priority. If anyone has anything for me that really can't wait, please just post here in the open forum. Or it should still be possible to send me an email through the MTS interface.
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"Hi! I'm Ripp Grunt. I don't know if you remember me? I am the dude who took good care of the bar. Speeking of it, it allready closed it's doors, and is ready to be transported to next destination, when- or where ever that is."
"But hey! I had in mind, that after the contest you would still want something to drink? Yes! I did hide a lots of bottles before the dudes in the van came! Let's the party begin!"
"Special thanks you for Mr Sample, Sim Sample, for being so slow at finding the talcum powder and never came! I GOT THE GILR (with ..interest fashion style)!!! Everything was like a dream!"
"Eh well .. not totally everything... someone should of checked the aspiration meter before trying to marry a romance sim "
"Did you know a bottle of Fanta is actually made from wood!!?? At least it look like wood after Captain finished it.
But yes Thank you Petro for not beeing mad at me, I did mess the place big time every friday.. If the bar is ever back at Strangetown, I will be happy to host it again!
Everyone did amazing job at their builds, lets drink to that!"
No going back now,
Our passionplay is now begun.
Past thought of right or wrong, final question, how long have we wait before we're one?
~Andrew Loyd Webber (Phantom Of The Opera)