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#1 Old 19th Dec 2021 at 11:04 PM Last edited by NimaSims : 21st Dec 2021 at 9:22 AM.
Default Your Controversial/Unpopular Opinion or Headcanon of Pre-made Characters?
I'll start;

Buzz
Buzz's alien racism(?) is somehow justified knowing that people get pregnant after getting abducted by aliens, and this is without ones consent. Like, imagine looking through a telescope one night and then return having an alien baby implanted in you.
On the topic of Buzz, I don't hate him as much as other people might, but maybe it's just due to my headcanon. I headcanon he is unable to teach toddler skills due to the fact he's in the military and got drafted away (Though, in the sims there's nothing like that, just pretend there's something going on hehe) And I know it's a common stereotype that the wife cheats during this time, but Lyla is a romance sims from what I see in the wiki, so it wouldn't be surprising that she probably had a few flings in her life while her husband isn't there.

Brandi
Brandi Broke is probably a bad mother, I don't know man, though some probably have imagine this. Maybe it's just because some gameplay has it that she doesn't do anything with her children but wants to have more kids, while Dustin had to put on this parental role to his siblings. I guess this is more so dependant on people's gameplay though. I was frustrated that Brandi kept having such low needs and couldn't get all toddler skill for Beau.

PT9
PT9 is a creepy man to marry the daughter of the man he impregnated. I don't know if his alien culture doesn't care about that, though the least he could do is research on the place he decides to stay in and also maybe tell Jenny about it with some alien technology biology scanner thingy? Unless Jenny is fine with it and this turns to a Alabama situation or he could be... brainwashing her. Also, he's depleting earth resources with that green lawn in the middle of the desert, either intentionally, or he's just ignorant from watching most TV shows that have green lawns.
Do you guys make them divorced or do you make them stay?

Bella
I have a clean template and there's Bella Goth in my game, I look to her aspiration and see she has the romance aspiration. I thought she might have an interesting implication that she cheats on Mortimer, but lore says otherwise with her rejecting Don Lothario. I can imagine and headcanon that her aspiration could have changed be due to her returning to Earth and not knowing its customs after being in taken by the aliens, and PT9 told her to try to experiment with anyone she meets to keep track of human behavior. PT9 is the one who got her to be returned, but I can believe he returned her due to conveniece since he was retiring to Earth or another alien said for him to go back and bring back Bella after they used her for cloning the Roth family. Her original aspiration would be popularity, just like Stella Roth, as the other members of the Roth family have the same aspirations as their counterparts.

Kaylynn
I don't know how Daniel and Kaylynn lead to a romance, seeing both are shy, though Daniel is a romance sim... Any theories how they managed to get together? But this is a side tangent. My unpopular opinion would be I guess kinda disliking Kaylynn, getting involved with two men on her job, though this could also depend on gameplay or personal headcanon, most headcanon makes her misunderstood or taken advantage of by men older than her.
I don't have my personal headcanon of ber tragic past or whatnot, just feeling bad for Mary Sue and Cassandra, though, in my game Daniel didn't continue to cheat since I didn't do the scripted events so much so and go to wants instead, having him get wants mostly to romance Mary Sue that just became too sweet, I have a crisis whether to 'stick to the script' or let him be actually be faithful in my game.

Pleasant Family
I feel like people tend to villainize Angela more, and Lillith becoming their favorites, or at least let's play videos on them people tend to do that. Though, both can equally be the bully, this will depend on each person's gameplay, but I feel like it's unfair to villainize Angela fully all the time.
Also, why doesn't Mary Sue have more nice points when her bio contradicts that, not an unpopular opinion, but I just wanted to bring it up. Anyways, I feel that it's strange that Mary Sue is still just level 2 in her career when you start, my headcanon is that there is workplace discrimination around there, making it hard for her to climb up the career ladder, seeing that she is in the racial minority and a woman, so I pretend she becomes a pottery artist that also brings political commentary to her works being an activist of sorts.

That's all I could think of for now, feel free to share some of your own unpopular opinion or headcanon. No judgement.
Also, bonus meme, idk if someone else already made this but this kinda just sums up Pleasantview.
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Field Researcher
#3 Old 20th Dec 2021 at 1:20 AM
I killed off the Brokes and the Grunts because I just didn't find them interesting at all.

Darren Dreamer married Cassandra Goth, but their lifespans were too long, so I had to use boolprop to speed things along.

Alexander Goth is a medical doctor with one son, the heir to the Goth Manor.

I remade my Sims1 family, so the granddaughter of that family will marry the Goth kid, uniting my two most-used Sims1 families.

Dirk Dreamer married a girl from college and he's an artist.

The Beakers died by accident, but they, along with the Curious brothers, will not be missed. The unborn baby Tycho Curious was eventually born and grew up to become head of the SCIA. An elder now, he looks like the alien on the original cover of The Sims 2.

I don't know what to do with Daniel and Mary-Sue yet. They're not great people, it seems. I want Lillith and Angela to marry sims of my creation and live happy lives.

Both of PT9's children are married, with kids of their own now.
Theorist
#4 Old 20th Dec 2021 at 3:25 PM
Peter Ottomas is secretly having a gay affair. That porn stache keeping way too many secrets. Working on making Samantha realize she might be bi too and that it's ok regardless of her family, as one shouldn't forget to take care of themselves too every once in a while; their own wishes and desires, not just her family's.
Mad Poster
#5 Old 20th Dec 2021 at 3:25 PM
I loved the "switched" hood where Daniel got pregnant by the maid. That was the last straw for MarySue --she shot him, "buried" him in the yard, and nobody cared. The whole Nina/Dina/Don thing was just a mess; I never liked the idea that Mort was such an old fool he would want EITHER of the girls...he stayed single. Usually I've played Cassandra as she was 'set up', being jilted at the alter. Mort steps up and kills him..end of problems. Mort's son (in a few iterations) is gay, does well at college, and adopts a child. Cassandra stays at home, single & crazy. I actually like Brandy; is it her fault she had a bad upbringing? Sometimes she goes on "dates" - for the money. Of course that means more babies (she doesn't know how to stop THAT either). But eventually she finds True Love. I've enjoyed remaking the trailer; a nice 2-story fits fine.

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Test Subject
#6 Old 20th Dec 2021 at 5:11 PM
General Buzz is under orders by the President of SimNation to detonate a nuclear bomb in Strangetown if the "alien threat" gets out of hand. Lyla found out about this and tried to escape with the children. Olive stopped her because she wants to feed more souls into the afterlife to spend time with death (and how many souls wouldn't she get if the bomb expoded?). That is why she lives so far away, she's hoping the observatory mountain will shield her from the blast.
Alchemist
#7 Old 20th Dec 2021 at 7:54 PM
This isn't even a headcanon, since it's all in the game, but it goes against what a lot of players do with her - Nina isn't this seductive vixen. She's an adult who had one romance with the guy she knew since they were kids. I don't see her as a female Don. With her shyness, she's really more like Kaylynn.

I don't think Angela is any worse than Lilith is. They're both doing the best they can in the abusive and neglectful environment that Daniel and Mary Sue created.
Forum Resident
#8 Old 20th Dec 2021 at 8:14 PM
My head canons aren't anything particularly special...

Don Lothario:
Never thought of any for him, because I never get invested in him. He's just a bland sleep around with zero redeeming qualities, both in personality and gameplay. He's boring to play and I feel he also lacks depth. Sure, you can find it if you actively search for it, but again I never care enough to look. He can be a decent Dad if he has children he commits to, but that still doesn't make him fun to play.

Mortimer Goth:
I view Mortimer as having been an adult when Bella went missing, even though thinking about it, he was an elder. As a child, I thought Bella went missing when he was an adult and had been searching for her for years, before reaching elderhood and moving on with Dina. I still believe that, despite the facts within the game; the Calientes moved to Pleasantview "on the eve of Bella's disappearance," and there's a picture in the storytelling folder of them greeting an elderly Mortimer. However, I still believe that he didn't move on straight away, as I've seen some players believe.

Dina Caliente:
I'm one of those players that don't view her as a simple gold-digger; she wants money and a lavish lifestyle, sure, but I think she eventually falls in love with her "victims." Evidence I point to is Michael's grave still being in her house as opposed to being dumped outside and she didn't get inheritance from him. She is painted as wanting money in the Caliente's storytelling photo as part of the main hood story, but her in-game behaviour betrays that. In short, she isn't perfect, but she's not evil like people paint her.

Ripp Grunt:
I think he's too good-natured and kind to be your typical heartbreaker Romance sim, so as a result, I view his Romance aspiration as being a hunt for his one true love. Yes, he'll roll wants for more lovers and more sims to woohoo with, but that's just the coding of romance sims regardless of personality. I usually give him secondary family to reflect my head canon. He's just indecisive and is constantly wondering who "the one" is.

Nina Caliente:
I view her in the same vein as Ripp. Not your typical sleep around Romance sim; she's too shy and serious to want to "play" with random people she doesn't know. She seems to have some ambition beyond that and has her head screwed on.

Daniel Pleasant:
His affair with the maid is just him acting out due to lack of attention. He loves Mary-Sue, but she's practically ignoring him for her job and he has "needs" that she isn't helping him with; you can see this in their storytelling image in hood view with him thinking about woohoo while Mary-Sue's on the phone. Which is why the maid's doing it instead. Doesn't excuse him for cheating on his ambitious wife, just explains it. Nothing is stopping you from talking to her Daniel!

Miscellaneous:
I think Pascal and Cassandra are cute together. They even have matching glasses!

When a game is predictable, it's boring.
That goes for any medium that isn't life.
That's why The Sims 2 is my favourite sims game.
It has elements of unpredictability and everything feels more involved.
The Sims 4 is another story altogether...
Mad Poster
#9 Old 20th Dec 2021 at 11:42 PM
Unpopular opinion, but I don't like Nervous and Pascal together. Many simmers love putting them together, so I did in my megahood for the first time and they're... boring. I once had a playthrough where Nervous gets cloned (I named the girl Hermione because I was really into Harry Potter at the time) and he and his "daughter" inherit the Specter House after Olive passes. It was my most fun version of Nervous. I should have done that in my megahood. He did have a daughter with Pascal, who looks identical to Nervous and now she's an adult I moved her to the old Specter house (which had been unoccupied for years). The Curious-Subject household though (Nervous, Pascal and their children and now grandchildren) I've always hated playing though. Part of it comes down to their ugly space-themed house I made when I started the megahood 8 years ago. I've gotten much better at building houses now, but I've become attached to the eyesore of a house so I can't seem to knock it down and build something less terrible.

In my head cannon, Nervous shouldn't be with anyone romantically. I like him asexual/aromantic. He either has a clone of himself or adopts some children to fulfil his child related wants.

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Forum Resident
#10 Old 21st Dec 2021 at 12:51 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Bigsimsfan12
Unpopular opinion, but I don't like Nervous and Pascal together. Many simmers love putting them together, so I did in my megahood for the first time and they're... boring.


Same. I've never actually had them together, but I'm just not feeling it. Plus Pascal is straight in my game (and doesn't seem interested in doing anything with anyone in practice anyway). Plus seeing as they've been friends for a while and the situation Nervous has been in I feel like it'd just be really awkward for the both of them, at least unless Nervous has been out of the Beaker household for a while. I also don't like the idea of Tank and Johnny Smith together.

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Theorist
#11 Old 21st Dec 2021 at 12:58 AM
One I can think of:

The Caliente Sisters really are just the shallow, selfish gold-diggers suggested by the Maxis storyline, and not the sympathetic characters Skellington tried to reinvent them as. (I love Skellington's downloads, I'm just not a fan of her version of the Claientes) Because sometimes even "attractive" fictional characters can be scum. There's no depth, no hidden hearts of gold, no heart-wrenching backstory. They are what they are.

And another: Angela Pleasant is NOT a "meangirl" who kisses butt and maliciously picks on her "poor innocent" goth sister. Angela just copes with their toxic family life in a different way from Lilith (she feels pressured to be "good" and over-achieve at school to keep their parents from fighting) And both Pleasant girls clash with each other, due to their different ways of reacting to their family life (seeking conflict vs avoiding it at all costs)

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Original Poster
#12 Old 21st Dec 2021 at 5:56 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Bigsimsfan12
Unpopular opinion, but I don't like Nervous and Pascal together. Many simmers love putting them together, so I did in my megahood for the first time and they're... boring. I once had a playthrough where Nervous gets cloned (I named the girl Hermione because I was really into Harry Potter at the time) and he and his "daughter" inherit the Specter House after Olive passes. It was my most fun version of Nervous. I should have done that in my megahood. He did have a daughter with Pascal, who looks identical to Nervous and now she's an adult I moved her to the old Specter house (which had been unoccupied for years). The Curious-Subject household though (Nervous, Pascal and their children and now grandchildren) I've always hated playing though. Part of it comes down to their ugly space-themed house I made when I started the megahood 8 years ago. I've gotten much better at building houses now, but I've become attached to the eyesore of a house so I can't seem to knock it down and build something less terrible.

In my head cannon, Nervous shouldn't be with anyone romantically. I like him asexual/aromantic. He either has a clone of himself or adopts some children to fulfil his child related wants.


Yeah playing with the Beakers and Nervous, he really doesn't seem like one to hold in a stable relationship, being he has no personality than active. He's been a guinea pig for years and to just have the Beakers let him go seems too easy, cloning him sounds like a great way to add to my story, with Nervous being attached to his new child while the Beaker just thinks that they'll use the child as a future guinea pig, adds to the strangeness of Strangetown.
Forum Resident
#13 Old 21st Dec 2021 at 7:00 AM
Quote: Originally posted by CrystalFlame360
Ripp Grunt:
I think he's too good-natured and kind to be your typical heartbreaker Romance sim, so as a result, I view his Romance aspiration as being a hunt for his one true love. Yes, he'll roll wants for more lovers and more sims to woohoo with, but that's just the coding of romance sims regardless of personality. I usually give him secondary family to reflect my head canon. He's just indecisive and is constantly wondering who "the one" is.


My Ripp Grunt (now renamed Philip) is a romance sim... but he's not a heartbreaker (or doesn't want to be). He just loves multiple women, and doesn't like the idea of "settling down" with just one person. So he lives with his brother, and has a little harem of ladies he invites over regularly for dates. They're all romance or pleasure sims, and (at least as far as the story is concerned) know the deal (actually I have a jealousy-reducing mod).

He's actually been really upset lately, because he used to have a lover who's a popularity sim, and she decided she wants to be monogamous with Ripp's little brother, so their relationship is over.
Mad Poster
#14 Old 21st Dec 2021 at 8:48 AM Last edited by FranH : 21st Dec 2021 at 2:20 PM.
Mine:

Mortimer wasn't that affected by Bella's disappearance-because he was getting tired of her affairs she'd been having on the side. Nobody ever heard of them because he told her, "You can have all the men you want, but don't ever let scandal tarnish our status." In fact, it was part of their prenup and when she went missing, he was relieved because he really had gotten tired of covering up for her. She also didn't get a dime of his money for her misbehavior.

Don wasn't responsible for Bella's disappearance, either-he'd been through a torrid affair with her, but she'd told him he was boring and left him after a 3 month romance. Don is boring, that much is true, but he has always loved Nina Caliente so much that nobody could ever have replaced her in his heart. That's why he was getting married to Cassandra, so he could at least have some security in his old age. True, Cassandra was boring, but she was at least smart enough to accept (he thought) his behavior.
(Most of the time in my game, she was heartbroken when he cheated on her).

Nina had always loved Don, and she was just play acting at being so diffident about him. He'd broken her heart by getting engaged to that Goth girl, and just dumping her so publicly. How humiliating of him! She'd played the game, but was devastated when he misread her intentions.

Dina, though, loved Don as a brother, even when her sister had been involved with him. She wasn't jealous of Nina, either..and in fact, her intention on getting married to Mortimer (aside from the security it would bring her) was that she could have Nina live with her and if Don married Cassie, she could keep everyone happy. Dina never got along with her sister because their parents did openly like her more, telling Dina repeatedly, "You should be more like Nina..she has a good head on her shoulders." Her marriage to Michael was a surprise to them because they'd never thought she'd amount to anything, even when he was far older than she was. No, it's not true she's a gold digger-her mother and father taught her the value of money, but her spendthrift ways after his death were due to her having become so very depressed. She'd never had anyone love her alone. Michael was so good to her!

As for her marriage with Mortimer, Dina generally got tired of being the trophy wife and got a job after having a child, even when she knew she would never have to work again when he died. Although Alexander, when he grew up, was a very handsome young man, and he shared in the inheritance equally with Cassie. Dina was always appreciative of the amount of money the Goths had, mostly because Michael had left her penniless (not that she minded that..too much) and Bella's disappearance did make it easier for her to gain some social status and security after Mortimer's death-and no, it's not true she killed him for the money. She just had to keep being a loving wife and all would come to her in due time.

As to Cassie, she was naive to believe that Don did love her, and when she found out the truth, she became furious with him. Don usually got caught with in flagrante Nina and Cassie usually had the option of getting involved with Darren Dreamer, who was more to her liking. He was quiet, faithful and studious. She couldn't believe that he'd been passed over for medical school for his ability, even when he allowed his wife Darleen to take over as a main bread winner because he just wanted to paint all the time.

Darren, for his part, was devastated when his Darleen died. How could she do this to him! He was on the verge of artistic success, and she had the temerity to die in that damn house fire. Cassie was a very lovely person to him while he was in the depths of grief, and he'd always loved her from afar. He'd been in shock when he heard that she was engaged to Don, who he knew was a low life skunk just looking to find a rich wife so he could coast in his job and chase that Caliente woman.

Bella, believed she'd done her bit for the Goths and after a string of affairs in downtown, she'd decided that she was tired of putting up a good front with Mortimer and took off looking for more fun stuff to do. Her daughter and son were her contributions to the legacy, and now that they were grown up she wanted to do whatever she felt like without people whispering behind her back. She'd gotten tired of being "The Mrs. Goth", and just wanted to cut loose with her own life. She was not coming back to Pleasantview for anything, including Mortimer's death. They'd been legally separated by then, and she didn't expect any money from his estate.

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Mad Poster
#15 Old 22nd Dec 2021 at 12:56 AM
And another thing: Nervous...more than once I have had Circe & (?) have babies, then die. Nervous is a great father. MY "head cannon" is that he gets a personality (after the torture and drugs stopped). I take apart that UNWORKABLE "castle", and he moves out - with LOTS of money! He builds a modest house, with a cute garden, and pets for the children. Usually he does not get married, or work.

Stand up, speak out. Just not to me..
Field Researcher
#16 Old 22nd Dec 2021 at 4:04 AM Last edited by Neverwinter_Knight77 : 22nd Dec 2021 at 9:10 PM.
I noticed something weird about the Beaker house in my playthrough. For some reason, their house would crash the game to desktop, but that's why I ultimately ended up moving them in with the Grunts.


No need to click the disagree button. It's just on this installation.
Lab Assistant
#18 Old 22nd Dec 2021 at 11:14 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Aspersim
Mortimer eventually dies and in some of my playthroughs the rest of the Goths buy that massive mansion in pleasantview.

Never done this before but I think an aged Alex Goth and Lilith Pleasant would go good together since Lilith seems to want to be a gothic person


I agree, I played through Pleasantview recently and had my Lilith not met an untimely end I think she would definitely have ended up with Alexander.
Mad Poster
#19 Old 23rd Dec 2021 at 7:13 PM
My Pleasantview Goth/Caliente/Lothario headcannon . . . is weird.
Mortimer and Bella had an open marriage, which they didn't mention to their children (because children, after all), and Cassandra idolized her parents so much that she never let herself see the little clues that they weren't the Happily Ever After Romance Trope. (Not that they weren't at least moderately happy, most of the time.) Mortimer has a romance secondary.
Dina is a perfectly nice fortune sim, not particularly personally ambitious, but a good society wife sort, she'd like to be on your charitable board, thank you, and she's attracted to older men. She and Nina come from elsewhere (maybe Belladona or Downtown), as does Don Lothario, and they've known each other since they were kids. Dina and Michael fell in love, got married, and she moved to Pleasantview when they married.
Don is in Pleasantview because he got a job at the hospital there. Pleasantview is one of those retirement towns, so even though it's not urban dense, it's got a high demand for medical care. Kind of cool, that one of his old friends already lived there. Don had absolutely no intentions of settling down. But he's heard--who hasn't?--about the Goths.
After Bella's disappearance and Michael's death, Dina and Mortimer had a . . . one day stand? not even that. Both grieving, both looking for comfort. We're not talking about that ever again sort of deal, but it happened. Nina moved in with her sister and picked up with Don on a strictly casual basis.
Christmas rolled around, and of course Mortimer invited Michael's widow, his sister-in-law, to the big Goth Christmas party. And her sister. Who would leave out Nina? That would be cruel. And of course both of you ladies should bring a plus one, if you have one. Dina most emphatically did not have a plus one, but Nina invited Don, and that's how Cassandra and Don met. Cassandra fell hard for Don, asked Aunt Nina if they were serious. Aunt Nina, having never been serious about any man in her life, emphatically told her starry-eyed courtesy niece that she and Don were childhood friends, and definitely not serious (while having visions of Cassandra trying to plan her a big society wedding, oh dear plumbob no!). Cassandra accepted Don's offer of a date, and told Don she was hoping for a marriage "Just like my parents". That was a condition Don thought he could deal with marriage with, he does love Cassandra but not exclusively, and so he happily proposed.

No one lied. No one (except the parents of a tween girl) misled anyone. Everyone is in a grade A first class mess.

Added to that, the alien-descended are required by law to live in Strangetown, and while it's not known that Nina and Dina's ancestor was abducted by aliens, in fact was the earliest abductee, if either of them should have a child that had visible signs of alienism, they could have a legal problem on their hands. Nina (family secondary) wants to relocate to Strangetown pre-emptively, it's got hot military guys, after all, and then if anything ever happens she was following the law. Dina (pleasure secondary) does most definitely not want to live in the social backwater of Strangetown.

Using hacks, I very often make Dina pregnant with the posthumous children of Michael Bachelor. The clock is ticking. Is the father Michael or Mortimer? Will the babies be normal sims, or will they show distinct signs of alien heritage?

(Also, the connection between Cassandra and Mary Sue Pleasant? Mary Sue was hired by Bella to babysit Cassandra during the Goth orgies . . . er, parties. Yeah. Parties. Some of Cassandra's views on What Marriage Is were definitely shaped by Mary Sue's fairy tales, which were Coral's fairy tales . . .)

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Theorist
#21 Old 25th Dec 2021 at 4:17 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Aspersim


Never done this before but I think an aged Alex Goth and Lilith Pleasant would go good together since Lilith seems to want to be a gothic person


Interest g that you say that. I've paired them several times, and yes it was because Lilith is "a Goth" while Alexander is named Goth. Plus the whole family and the house are so gloomy, it fit her well.

On Lilith herself I have the headcanon that she is very similar in character to Mary-Sue (and she naturally hates that) so I often have her grow up to be a politian (while Angela enters the... Uh.. What is it called? That Oceanography/Marine Biology Career, because of that fishing boat stuff in her bio)

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Instructor
#22 Old 25th Dec 2021 at 7:07 PM
The reason that Mary Sue and Angela dont like Lilith is that they are mermaids and she isnt. I also like Angela to marry Alexander Goth and Lucy Burb marries Dustin Broke.
Field Researcher
#23 Old 25th Dec 2021 at 11:50 PM
Cassandra is ace/aro. Whenever I play her, she NEVER rolls amorous wants. She will roll Have a Baby wants frequently, so I do have her WooHoo with Don for that. In any context other than procreation, she has no interest whatsoever in him (or anyone else).
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