Both do shitty job, doesn't matter :p

That happened in TS2 with Young Adults, but they were primarily limited to playability in the University towns. I did have one Sim that ended up being my co founder I met through the matchmaker that was a YA and she grew up when moved in.

I guess we'll see.

Sims 2 University, and if you're going to talk about new animations etc, may I point you to the fact that EA did make horses once.

Why could you tell us that but earlier today Grant went "No comment! Stop asking!"

I don't exactly feel like EA deserves the defense, but it is worth noting that the regular edition of the game is listed at $60 USD. It's the "deluxe" edition or whatever that's 70 bucks.

Grant is locked in a box where he doesn't get to see other SimGurus. He confirms "all" life stages from the Sims 3 and Ryan takes it back. He says "no comment" on teens being as tall as adults and Graham confirms it. According to him, they all have their "portion" of the game to work on.

That's probably why the whole thing is a mess.

Now if only I could get locked in that box with Grant. He'd be a lot less cranky.

First they have to say sims own cars. We don't know if the cars are deco/phantom/figment of the imagination.

Well, I couldn't find a better pic due to my unawareness of the terms bum-fluff and peach fuzz. :b
I guess I might suffer from Sims 4 denial. Teens just seem like they're in their final stages of adolescence and I was so used to the previous teens that it's weird to me. They're so...tall. D: teenagers could have some of the pre-teen options and new exclusive interactions (I'm remembering the Generations EP). Pre-teens would be more innocent teens.

Well, technically, Young Adult was an EP-introduced life stage--they were just relegated to a specific world with Sims 2: University. It wasn't until Sims 3 that Young Adults were part of the overall experience. So, to answer your question: yes!

My guess is that, with the Sims 4 engine, they're making drastic EP integration much friendlier to the game. It's very likely that some of the code references already exist for toddlers, but isn't fleshed out enough for launch, so could be more easily added than unplanned content. More "planned code hooks" would also make sense from a DLC/micro-transaction perspective, as well. Not that I'm a fan the latter, but with the success of the Sims 3 store and it's exclusive towns and content, I doubt very much that it will go away for Sims 4.

I'm still in disbelief but how hard would it be to mod teens shorter now?

We got a height slider in 3. We have to be able to do it in 4.

I don't care if animations clip this is an actual issue.

Pre-teen and middle age should have been the next step in the Sims series but no, not only did they take out an age group (toddlers) they make it were teens-elders are now the same height.

EA you really screwed it over now.

Also, in a game where we can control every curve on a sim's body, how are we expected to know whether or not a sim isn't curvy enough to be an adult? Your sim, for example, doesn't look all that different from the teens we've seen. He looks younger than some of them actually. Do you know how many people are gonna accidentally hit on teens now XD

Not necessarily so. I'll be 46 when my youngest child will be grown and leaving the nest. 46 is rather different than 60. And if/when you're approaching your 40's, I'm willing to wager you'll agree with me wholeheartedly. And I do think 46 could be described as middle-aged.

And, come to think of it, there is a big difference between the ages of 60 and 80+, as well.

I grant you, perhaps the label "middle-aged" isn't adequate here. But the adult life stage in TS4 is meant to represent a period starting in the mid-twenties, and that's (hopefully) not middle-aged, either. Especially if we're speaking in literal terms.

Regardless. I don't want to get hung up on semantics. The point that I was trying to make was that there is a rather substantial stage of life between child-raising and being elderly, and if we're discussing the possibility of adding new life stages for our Sims, I wouldn't be against seeing this one represented in the game.

I doubt it's any different from TS3, when that's the age that sims get wrinkles and both YA and adults by default spend the same amount of time in the stage.

Oh, awesome. I just read somewhere that the game won't have pt-pt translation and probably some others. I guess EA really wants to lower their profits worldwide.

So that information about Maxis "being completely mismanaged" is more than true. It's totally real and is eating game contents. In fact, it's eating up whole game.

Since it's an american company we could sue them for not saying the same, I bet that would make them cooperate with each other.

I just read on simsvip it's been confirmed it's just 32 bit, apparently it's pretty uncommon for games these days with 64 bit ...

But that's what we did last time and look how that turned out.

We are out of benefits and full of doubts. Fuck you, EA.

Let's not make blanket statements like this. I am angry too, but we need to have some focus in our criticism for it to be taken seriously.

EA is beyond the point of taking anyone seriously.

Or, apparently, bum-fluff on their faces.

(I think I prefer the term peach fuzz, now that we've drawn these lovely mental pictures.)

I agree. We need to be more than angry, we need to be organised and constructive. The gurus are on the defensive, but also objects of quite a bit of sympathy, and the community is raging quite out of control. The reaction has spread to FB and even Kotaku's comments section, where it is universally hostile to EA. Night Simmer's Change.org petition to include toddlers and pools in the base game picked up over 2000 sigs in its first 24 hours, and the "delay" petition on the forum, which isn't as accessible, has hit over 260 within a similar amount of time. People are claiming to cancel their preorders everywhere, and if they are actually following through on those claims, EA can't ignore it.

I wouldn't put it past EA to push the game out anyway, but the game is looking more and more like a kamikaze mission. I'm inclined to suspect even EA's execs aren't this foolish.

But EA's execs are inclined to shock me.

Yeah, I said the same thing when CASt was confirmed cut


Look at it now

To me it's not just the lack of pools that doesn't sit right with me. All forms of swimming is gone, be it in a pool or the ocean. No swimwear, no hotubs. Not even a silly little paddling pool...

Get ready for that stuff pack/ DLC based entirely on pools and swimming, guys...