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#1 Old 30th Apr 2021 at 7:11 PM Last edited by Jawusa : 15th May 2021 at 2:46 AM.
Default Tutorial: How to Remove Stealth Hoods (Secret Subhoods) from a Neighborhood
Have you ever accidentally added the nasty secret subhoods (aka stealth hoods) to your neighborhood(s) and then later regretted it? Because you couldn't change the neighorhood type anymore? Or do you simply just want to clean a neighborhood for upload and don't want the unnecessary stealth hoods to blow up your neighborhood file size? Well, then this tutorial is for you!

Note: You can also use a slight adaption of this tutorial to actually make-over the hobby and witch lots/neighborhoods! Bear in mind that the hobby/witch lots have to be visited at least once with a sim, though. Otherwise, the Maven NPC and other fellow hobby enthusiast townies may not show up. More info on that in simsample's post. Thanks so much for sharing this, @simsample 

The Tutorial:

You're probably stuck with this... you've accidentally had the stealth hoods enabled when loading your neighobrhood... and then, this happened!



And if you have a look into the neighborhood folder, you'll see that the game clogged your neighborhood with this trash.



Don't panic! This tutorial is going to teach you how to remove the secret subhoods. We're going to use SimPE during the tutorial, but trust me! It's a very simple and quick procedure!

Step 1: Disabling the Stealth Hoods

To prevent ANY additional stealth hood drama in your neighborhood, make sure to disable your stealth hoods NOW!
To do this, go to your install location of each expansion pack listed below.

Once in that folder, search for a folder named NeighborhoodTemplate. Rename that folder to NeighborhoodTemplate_disabled and you're done! Repeat this step for all the five stealth hoods. Be careful with the Bon Voyage one though, as the stealth hood is in the same folder as the vacation subhoods. You may have to create a new NeighborhoodTemplate folder and put your vacation subhoods in there! Just do NOT put V001 in there.

By default, the install instructions are...

Pets Stealth Hood (Pets)
Go to C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\The Sims 2 Pets\TSData\Res
If you have The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection: C:\Program Files\Origin Games\The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection\Fun with Pets\EP4\TSData\Res

Seasons Stealth Hood (Weather)
Go to C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\The Sims 2 Seasons\TSData\Res
If you have The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection: C:\Program Files\Origin Games\The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection\Seasons\TSData\Res

Bon Voyage Stealth Hood (Exotic Destinations)
Go to C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\The Sims 2 Bon Voyage\TSData\Res
If you have The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection: C:\Program Files\Origin Games\The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection\Bon Voyage\TSData\Res

Free Time Stealth Hood (Hobbies)
Go to C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\The Sims 2 Free Time\TSData\Res
If you have The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection: C:\Program Files\Origin Games\The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection\Free Time\TSData\Res

Apartment Life Stealth Hood (Magic)
Go to C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\The Sims 2 Apartment Life\TSData\Res
If you have The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection: C:\Program Files\Origin Games\The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection\Apartment Life\TSData\Res





Step 2: Changing the Stealth Hoods to Downtowns

Alright, they shouldn't cause any trouble in your neighborhoods anymore... good! Now, let's move to the next step.

Unfortunately, we cannot access the secret subhoods ingame. If you'd try to delete them in-game under shopping districts... you wouldn't find any subhoods there. That's why, we're going to do this workaround to make the subhoods show up in the game.

Open up the stealth hood package in SimPE. In the Resource Tree (on the left side), find ID Number (IDNO). Click on it and it'll filter the files according to that file type. Now click on ID Number in the Resource List (on the right side). Click on the Neighborhood Type drop down menu, and change Suburb to Downtown. Click on Commit and repeat this procedure with all the other stealth hoods. You may close SimPE now and launch the game. I told you it's going to be a quick, didn't I?




Step 3: Deleting the Stealth Hoods

Now, comes the fun part. Ingame, you'll see that the secret subhoods actually show up now under Downtown subhoods!


And if you click on them, you'll... oh, there's a Delete button!


Now, have fun deleting these stealth hoods! It should be really quick, and you'll end up with this! :D


You may close the game now and have a look into the neighborhood's folder. And yayy! You should no longer see the stealth subhood files in there. Only the neighborhood file, as desired!



Note: You may also want to check the Lots folder (before and after deleting the stealth hoods!). If you've done everything correctly, the number of lots should have decreased by 12. (10 hobby lots + 2 witch lots). My neighborhood had 70 lots to start with... and well, after removing the stealth hoods, it only had 58 lots! Which is... a sign of success!

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#2 Old 30th Apr 2021 at 7:46 PM Last edited by simsample : 30th Apr 2021 at 10:13 PM.
Brilliant, thanks @Jawusa! I will be trying this for sure.

Edit: It worked! Just as the tutorial said. Lacuna Delta is now 12 lots lighter, too! Thank you!

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#3 Old 1st May 2021 at 5:57 PM Last edited by Jawusa : 3rd May 2021 at 11:42 AM.
Yayy, I'm glad to hear that it worked for you! @simsample

Also, I forgot to mention that if suddenly the neighborhood disappears after using SimPE, it might be possible that the main neighborhood has been changed into a Downtown instead, and not the stealth hoods. In that case, I'd just restore from backup and make sure that you only convert the _Suburb###. packages (as marked above) to Downtowns.

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#4 Old 4th May 2021 at 4:47 PM
I wanted to add that I used this method also to give the hobby neighbourhood a makeover instead of deleting it. I changed it to Downtown and set the lots to community with U0 of 0X00002123, then changed them to my liking, and adjusted the hood decor too. Then I changed the lots back to Hobbyhidden with the following U0:
Sue's (Secret) Kitchen, My Muse II - Art Studio, Peerless Park & Dreamy Fields       U0=0x00000133
Platinum Gym, Desirable Discourse, Will's Garage, Aspirational Laboratories, Games of Glory & My Muse - Music & Dance Studio    U0=0x00000132
Change the hood type back to Suburb and all is done!
Note: For this method to work you need to make sure the Hobby Lots have been visited at least once by a member sim before editing, or else the Maven and other members don't seem to show up.

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#5 Old 15th May 2021 at 2:40 AM
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That's actually very helpful, lol! I've just linked to your post in the main post. Thanks so much for sharing that!
I guess, you could also change the neighborhood terrain to a desert, etc. and make more themed hobby lots?

(And yeah... those hobby lots could definitely benefit from a make-over... especially the science lab, lol!)

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#6 Old 15th May 2021 at 10:46 AM
Yes in theory you could make a completely custom world, but I'm not sure how to tell the game the lot has been visited- do you have any ideas at that? I've not tried changing the lot names either, although this tutorial indicates it might be possible.

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#7 Old 16th May 2021 at 7:50 PM
Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible? But I'll do some experiments...

I've noticed that the games saves the Hobby lot on each visit... meaning, it's not like a community lot that remains unchanged if visited. So, I suspect that the game runs special controllers, etc. when visited as a secret hobby lot and they seem to get corrupted if the lot has been saved as a community lot.

This is bad... especially if you intend to upload a made-over Hobbies subhood (or a set of renovated Hobby lots).

So, here's a workaround on how to achieve that:

- Create an empty throwaway neighborhood with no sims and let the game attach the Hobbies stealth hood to it.
- Create a sim who has all hobbies maxed out and has memberships to all hobby lots. (You can use Batbox's option to give the sim the memberships if they have at least 5? points in each hobby)
- Visit each Hobby lot with the sim... and as they travel, more and more hobby instructors/mavens are being generated. You should have at least 10 of them in the end. If you check the "Last Modified Date" of each lot file, you'll notice that they have all been changed... this is a good sign, don't worry!
- Change the secret subhood to a Downtown and unhide all the Hobby lots using your method described above and also change them to community lots.
- Renovate/tear down all the Hobby lots to create your own (and modify the neighborhood) as desired. You may also use Mootilda's LotAdjustor to enlarge/shrink the lot as needed. Change neighborhood terrain, etc. Much like as you'd create a normal custom neighborhood. When done, save the lot one more time and use the cheat "changeLotZoning secrethobbylot". (I've tested it, it still works... and actually, you do not necessarily have to hide the secret Hobby lots. They may stay visible. The only difference is that you'll see all the neighborhood decoration and other lots when visiting that Hobby lot.)
- In SimPE, change the Hobbies stealth hood from "Downtown" to "Suburb". You may still hide your lots if you want to using the method described above.
- Use Chris Hatch's LotCompressor to remove sim references and to compress the lots in general.
- Now, disable the stealth hoods and create a new empty neighborhood. Rename the neighborhood's prefix to F002. (Ie change the neighborhood's folder name and the package file inside)
- Use Mootilda's HoodReplace to copy neighborhood terrain, decorations, roads over to your new neighborhood.
- Extract all LotDescription files and the corresponding text string files from your old neighborhood's subhood package and import them into your new neighborhood.
- Also copy all the hobby lot packages and change the prefix from N### to F002.
- Open up the original stealth hood template in the NeighborhoodTemplate folder, extract its ID number and catalog description, open up your new neighborhood you've just created, delete its current ID number and catalog description, and add the extracted ones. (This will convert your neighorhood into a secret Hobbies subhood.)

Now, you should have a fully renovated and customized Hobbies stealth hood template which has no sims in it at all. Since the Hobby lots were initiated as such, they should also spawn hobby instructors and townies as usual.

Catalogue of Custom Neighborhoods for TS2
All Hood Building Group neighborhoods are available here
Want to get rid of EA's sims in neighborhoods? Check out my Clean and Empty Steatlh Hoods and Clean and Empty Neighborhood Templates
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