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Instructor
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#1 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 3:16 PM
Why do visitors only use the computer all the time?
And why do Sims that sleep over never sleep?

Seriously. It's annoying. Are there a lot of other players experiencing this? Because it's really weird. I especially hate how my Sims' romantic interests always go to sleep hours after my sim has woken up. They're up all night. As if their needs and biological clock are messed up.

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#2 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 3:19 PM
When visitors appear on the lot, their needs are set to a random value between 75% and 100% full. I would guess that's why they are not tired.

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Mad Poster
#3 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 3:23 PM
That must also explain why they don't eat. I'll have my Sims serve up a plate of food and, so far, they've always ignored it. I think in The Sims (1), visitor needs were set fairly low.

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Test Subject
#4 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 3:37 PM
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Originally Posted by VerDeTerre
That must also explain why they don't eat. I'll have my Sims serve up a plate of food and, so far, they've always ignored it. I think in The Sims (1), visitor needs were set fairly low.

Man, everytime I have a party, people go straight to the fridge. Sometimes more than once! Maybe there's some sort of thing that makes guests eat at parties. Though I wish they would wait for the caterer. You know, when he cooks at all/bothers making a cake and not just plate after plate of taco salad..
Mad Poster
#5 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 3:39 PM
I haven't tried a "party" yet, so I imagine guests come to a party hungry? "Party" has an event score and all, right?

They have taco salad? Oooo! I so need to explore the cooking options in this game.

Has anyone read the bread book that you can buy in the bookcase? Does it allow your Sim to bake breads?

Maybe I'll play a chef next

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Instructor
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#6 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 3:43 PM
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Originally Posted by plasticbox
When visitors appear on the lot, their needs are set to a random value between 75% and 100% full. I would guess that's why they are not tired.


Really? Well that's lame... It's so annoying when every visitor does the same thing because of their needs being at exactly the same rates.
Now if the needs were set at 30% - 75%, that'd be something.

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#7 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 3:51 PM
Party guests have different tuning from regular visitors.

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Banned
#8 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 3:55 PM
played the game for about two hours and uninstalled.

back to sims 2.
Forum Resident
#9 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 4:19 PM
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Originally Posted by VerDe Terre
That must also explain why they don't eat. I'll have my Sims serve up a plate of food and, so far, they've always ignored it. I think in The Sims (1), visitor needs were set fairly low.


@VerDeTerre my mixologist Sim needs to make 5 more Friends for promotion, so she makes 8 servings of some Gourmet Meal, and invites 5 Acquaintances to "Hang Out at Current Lot".

As soon as they arrive, she clicks on the prepared Gourmet Meal, selects "Call to Meal", and the guests swarm like flies to the dish, grabbing servings and sitting down at the 6-person dining table with her. She is making friends quickly!

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#10 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 4:24 PM
Also, you can avoid cooking specifically for the guests if you have a couple platters in the fridge that have, collectively, enough servings left in them to feed your guests. Just place them both on the counter and, when the guests arrive, click on ONE and do "Call to Meal", and the guests will Grab Servings from BOTH platters.
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Mad Poster
#11 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 4:30 PM
Sounds like fun, veil! I've also enjoyed your posts on your Utopia challenge thread.

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Field Researcher
#12 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 4:34 PM
Well, my guests never use the computer. They go directly to the fridge or take some drink in the bar. Sul Sul.
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#13 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 7:11 PM
I think they made the mistake again of making computers far too attractive to use autonomously.
If someone came over to my place and started touching up on my computer they'd be thrown out so quickly. No one touches that shit but me.
Mad Poster
#14 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 7:40 PM
It's too bad that doors don't have locks. I'd keep the computer in a locked study.

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Field Researcher
#15 Old 28th Sep 2014 at 7:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcyRoars
... Now if the needs were set at 30% - 75%, that'd be something.


Marcy, have you tried mgomez' The Needs/Motive Decay mod ? I think it affects all sims in the game, active or not and allows you to set the decay percent rate.
Field Researcher
#16 Old 29th Sep 2014 at 10:20 AM
Visitors love my computer, iPatch, punching bag, and love to clean up the toys my soon-to-be mother has laying about the place (because they have a decor rating).

In all the households I've played, group meals seem to go down just tickety boo. Occasionally they may not finish their meal (and I've put them away before they spoil - but eating those leftovers hardly make a dent to say, morning hunger) or if they get interrupted by something where for some reason they won't put it in their pocket (like my played Sims seem to do - like a hug for example; food in hand goes onto the pocket, Sims hug, and food comes back out of pocket... presumably covered in lint and fluff?) for eating after whatever the interruption was finished/over/past.

I've also had Sims helping themselves to juice in the fridge or eating a meal that my Sim has put down for some reason!
Lab Assistant
#17 Old 29th Sep 2014 at 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MarcyRoars
Why do visitors only use the computer all the time?


The computer probably has the highest fun rating. That really explains it for me. No mystery.
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#18 Old 29th Sep 2014 at 10:52 AM Last edited by Lodakai : 29th Sep 2014 at 11:13 AM.
I have a solution in development...
I actually need testers if you are willing to help..

It is located here
http://modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=536746

ETA: I will remove the testing thread if I release. If the link does not work, try to check downloads.
Instructor
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#19 Old 29th Sep 2014 at 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Lodakai
I have a solution in development...
I actually need testers if you are willing to help..

It is located here
http://modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=536746

ETA: I will remove the testing thread if I release. If the link does not work, try to check downloads.


I will definitely be trying this to see what happens. Hopefully it won't cause crashes or deformities, but I'm willing to take that risk for a highly useful mod!

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Field Researcher
#20 Old 29th Sep 2014 at 3:21 PM
This is all really interesting. I'll have to try that group meal house non-party bash sometime. My Sims' house guests make a beeline for the computer, or the TV if it's a pretty good one, but preferably the computer. I have yet to see a Sim guest do pretty much anything other than those two activities, besides talking to my Sims regardless of age. I don't think I've even seen a house guest use the bathroom, and certainly have never seen one help himself/herself to food in the fridge. I've also stopped buying my Sims tablets, because if a guest comes over, it WILL get appropriated, and it WILL be left lying in the oddest place. (Also I don't trust the buggers not to steal it, but that's another matter.)

I think I might have mentioned on another thread that visiting Sims will get off the computer if I send one of my Sims to use it. That being said, the computer's fun rating must be off the charts. If I don't keep a tight leash on my Sims, I think they'd rather use the computer than attend to bodily needs.

I too will definitely be trying that mod in development, once I'm back home.
Forum Resident
#21 Old 29th Sep 2014 at 3:33 PM
Yeah, the computer's way too attractive. In my Utopia Challenge house, I had only 2 computers--one for the programmer and one for the garden writer. I constantly had to nuke the other 6 Sims from using them and redirecting them to do the skills they were supposed to improve.

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#22 Old 29th Sep 2014 at 3:34 PM
And now that I've split off couples and am playing them in their own houses, I don't put in a computer until i HAVE to. (My Mixologist is at the point that she has to "Write a Bar Guide"--the only reason I finally gave that couple a computer.)

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Mad Poster
#23 Old 29th Sep 2014 at 3:48 PM
I don't know about the sleeping thing, but the obsessive behavior should have been dealt with in this version of the game.

In my game yesterday, one of my sims wanted a rocking chair. She's been burning the midnight oil with work, so I bought her one. It lasted for all of about 20 minutes in real time as she kept dropping the 'important' things I wanted her to do from her queue just so she could use the rocking chair which increases their fun and energy. Both of these bars along with all of her others were well into the green and yet she was being a total pain in the ass until I removed the chair.

My thoughts about the obsessive computer habit is: If sims are going to waste time being in front of the computer, they may as well earn money while doing it. Most of my sims are writers in their off time which brings in extra cash. I always find it interesting to see who purchased what books from around the hood, so I consider this a bonus as well as controlling a habit that I'd prefer not to have to deal with at all. I think there is mod for this specific issue in TS3, but my way works for me.
Theorist
#24 Old 29th Sep 2014 at 4:00 PM
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Why do visitors only use the computer all the time?


Because they're jackasses, that's why! Only a jackass would go to someone's house and play on their computer without asking.

I don't think I've ever had a single visitor in real life who has even wanted to use my computer. On the other hand, sometimes visitors will clean plates and take out the trash. In the game, that is. I've never had any visitors do that in real life either. I might be willing to let real life visitors play on my computer if they're going to clean my plates and take out my trash.

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Mad Poster
#25 Old 29th Sep 2014 at 4:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GnatGoSplat
Because they're jackasses, that's why! Only a jackass would go to someone's house and play on their computer without asking.

I don't think I've ever had a single visitor in real life who has even wanted to use my computer. On the other hand, sometimes visitors will clean plates and take out the trash. In the game, that is. I've never had any visitors do that in real life either. I might be willing to let real life visitors play on my computer if they're going to clean my plates and take out my trash.


Having good manners didn't fit into the emotions budget...
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