First of all, I am under 18 years of age, so I cannot conscionably register on MATY. The reply button seems to be disabled for guests. Therefore, I come with my problem for all of modthesims (and hopefully also J M if he still frequents here).
This problem concerns creaturefixes http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/s...pic,1482.0.html, updated for seasons. Up until I installed seasons and downloaded the appropriate seasons creaturefixes, it worked fine.
I often leave testing cheats on so that I can see any errors when they occur, and also because it helps me tweak the game to my liking as I play.

Without any other downloads in (that means no mods, no cosmetics, nada!) in a game with Double Deluxe, University, Open for Business, Pets, and Seasons, I play the Greenman's household and this error pops up. And will pop up. Frequently, again and again, not so fast that I can't escape, but frequent. Pop. Pop. Pop.
I have attached the picture of the popup and the error log itself.
In case the system specs are needed, I have attached that too.

Basically, the problem is that there is an error in the first place. I want to get rid of the error, but I don't want to get rid of creaturefixes if I don't have to. I just don't understand the problem at all, why there's an error dialog about plantsims, and I want to know if I should find some other game-saving mod instead of creaturefixes in the meantime, or if creaturefixes can be fixed.


I found this: http://forum.jfade.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16
If I can't keep creaturefixes, I can still make sure that vampires don't bite npcs, so my game will be safe. But creaturefixes had other nonessential features that I rather liked, so I'm relunctant to be rid of it.

Does your Double Deluxe contain Nightlife? If it does you need Creature fixes. Bad gosub tree indicates you have a mod in but not the correct EP for that mod.
As for MATY you don't need to register to download that's all smoke screen to make noobs flee.

The version of creaturefixes that you linked to is the AL version. Is that the one you downloaded? If so, that might explain the problem. You want the one you can find here: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/seasons/hacks/

It's not pretty, but it is alphabetical, so you shouldn't have too much trouble finding creaturefixes.

So it is, well that's why they have bad gosub Tree. Missed that at 6.30am lol.

Double Deluxe has Nightlife and Celebration.
Yes, I did download the seasons version. I linked to the wrong one because it had a description, as well as led to the site so people can see the lack of reply button and the age requirement for registration.
And it's true I don't need to register to download... this is why, in fact, I am in possession of the mod that I downloaded and is sending error messages. I simply cannot ask on MATY without registering.

Then you have another mod causing the bad gosub tree, a mod that is for an EP you don't have or a mod that has additional requirements. Some mods will say you also need X for it to work properly. You need to read over the instructions of mods carefully.

Looking at the error log, it's looking like the problem is somehow with Daisy Greenman trying to ask for a bottle. Looking in the picture, it looks like they're in a rather cramped bathroom. Does this error happen in all rooms in the house, or just the bathroom? Have you tried playing the Greenman's house with no cc at all, including creaturefixes? With no cc at all, do you still get the error? Have you tried deleting your cache files? Does the problem persist after deleting the caches? Have you had this error in any other house, or just in the Greenman house? And might this link be of any help? http://www.simbology.com/smf/index.php?topic=1076.0

They are scary over at MATY -- I don't blame you for asking here.

Bad gosub tree is unrelated to space though, only requirements they don't have.

Pescado is no longer supporting his mods, and posting on MATY tends to get newbies verbally eaten alive (the regular posters are overly rude).

Have you tried using the AL version of creaturefixes? TwoJeffs has mentioned before that Double Deluxe runs off a modified Apartment Life game engine. I'm curious if the modified Apartment Life game engine in Double Deluxe and the code for the Seasons version of creaturefixes are somehow creating the bad gosub error.

(I had to install Apartment Life to make Double Deluxe more stable, because before I had Apartment Life and just Double Deluxe Sims would get stuck in bed and drop queues because Double Deluxe was trying to use code that wasn't there.)

Andrew on here who has DD says his runs off the OFB game engine so it probably depends when it was made and perhaps which country you are from.

I think it's more likely that the error results from there being plantsim(s) on the lot.
The error happens on lot.
And yes, without creaturefixes there are no errors.
I deleted the cache files, and the error still appears.
The error also happens on McGreggor's lot, (I have turned him into a plantsim.)
In the Viejo family there are no errors, even when I invite Rose over. They have a chat. No errors, so I suppose the issue is only with controllable plantsims.
I saw the simbology link, and it has helped in the past, but not this time. This error isn't a bad gosub tree number, it's a Controller - Plantman error. http://www.insimenator.org/index.php?topic=39741.0 says that it may have been caused by old Visitor Controllers, but I updated mine, and the error occurs with nothing but creaturefixes, and does not occur with everything but creaturefixes.

With that additional information, it is sounding like you have the correct diagnosis that the problem is cause by creaturefixes. Who'da thunk it? I confess to being stumped right now. It sounds like it might be worth backing up your game and then trying the AL version of creature fixes. If that doesn't work (and you're properly backed up), I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try the OFB version, although I think the reason AndrewGloria uses OFB-compatible mods is that OFB is his highest EP.

And if we simply can't figure out how to make creaturefixes work for you, then which additional features of creaturefixes do you like? Maybe we can at least figure out how to get those to work for you along with the jfade mod...

Bad gosub tree number is still showing up on your newest screenshot and as far as I know that is only related to the mods requirements. I would as Esme said try a different version of Creature Fixes.

I tried the AL version, I tried the OFB version... no dice. I guess creaturefixes really hates plantsims XD

I just liked that it fixed the memory bubbles for werewolves and the overlay annoyance of vampires, but they're not really necessary.

Ehe, sorry jo, I don't really read thoroughly, you're right... I wasn't paying attention.

Anyhow, I'll just live without it. It's just hard to get used to the idea of not needing it, since I always used to think of it as "essential!"

I have creature fixes and I have plantsims, it has to be something else. What happens if creature fixes is your only mod?

I would post this over on Leefish and see if BoilingOil will take a look at it. Also run the hack Conflict Utility and see what it says. I still think you have a mod in that either requires an EP you don't have or it requires an add on.

Nottakenaway did say that with creaturefixes and only creaturefixes, there was a problem. I am stumped, but the suggestion to see if BoilingOil can shed any light on the subject is a good one. He knows a lot about the programming aspect of things.