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Job options mod set

by Lamare Posted 18th Jan 2018 at 8:41 PM - Updated 21st Feb 2022 at 5:44 PM by Lamare
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This is a set of global mods that change a few things about jobs.
Some of this stuff may have been done before, like uni jobs in Inteen, as I've heard. But I love job related mods and couldn't help making them. Some of them still may be useful. Pick and choose. Separate packages should make it easier.

Mods in this set:
Updates
10 Oct 2021: YA-work-wants-fears-Better - fixed a recent mistake that might have prevented YAs from wanting to get a non-specific job
17 Sep 2021: Added career-types-mutually-satisfy-wants and updated 3 other mods
05 July 2021: One more want for YA-work-wants-fears (reach certain career level)
05.04.2019: Fixed YA-work-wants-fears to liberate wants to join specific careers
28 July 2018: Added choose-career-type+teens version and updated cheat-only version
25 June 2018: Choose-career-type: combined versions Pets-AL and added Cheat-only version
17 Feb. 2018: YA-work-wants-fears updated with new lifted want restrictions (enter career track).
Note: If you get "no more offers" message before any offers, try again right away and you'll get job offers. It may happen when you've just installed the mod or just moved in (some stuff needs time/nudge to update).


Choose part-time or full-time career type
Features & Versions (choose one):
  • choose-career-type
    • Adults, young adults and elders can choose between part-time and full-time jobs. A dialog pops up when your sim is about to use computer or paper to find a job.
    • Teens are still limited to part-time jobs.
    • Debug interaction on a newspaper provides choice as well (by Shift-click with cheats enabled). Young adults, adults and elders see both part-time and full-time menu options.
  • choose-career-type+teens
    • Sims, including teens, can choose between part-time and full-time jobs. A dialog pops up when your sim is about to use computer or paper to find a job.
    • Debug interaction on a newspaper provides choice as well (Shift-click with cheats enabled). Teens, young adults, adults and elders see both part-time and full-time menu options.
  • choose-career-type-CheatOnly
    • Normal job-seeking interaction is not modded at all.
    • Debug interaction on a newspaper (Shift-click with cheats enabled) provides both part-time and full-time options for teens, young adults, adults and elders.
Requirements:
  • Tested on UC (AL/M&G game version).
  • If your latest EP is Pets or later, it might work for you too (test in testing 'hood first just in case).
  • CheatOnly version might work on even lower game versions, but I can't test and confirm.
Compatibility:
  • All versions should be compatible with Pescado's Harder jobs and Cyjon's Job Stopinator.
  • All versions conflict with Pescado's no-age-discrimination. (Though, my mod seems to offer more options in this regard.)
  • CheatOnly version shouldn't conflict with InTeen. Other versions probably do.
  • Should be compatible with Midge's More Computer Options, if you make Midge's mod load after mine.
  • This mod may conflict with mods that override the same resources:
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Ask before promoting
Features:
  • Promotions are mostly offered instead of being pushed on sims and pets. A dialog pops up for player to accept or decline new position.
  • Regular promotion offer for job performance:
    • By default, the chance of getting it is 100%, provided sims qualify for the next level, but it can be altered with lower promotion chance mod.
  • Promotions on special occasions:
    • When a random boss's cousin promises promotion (networking bonus), after the next work day, sims are presented with an offer.
    • When a colleague pulls some strings (good relationships or love?), sims get an offer.
  • Better promotion deal:
    • Sims have a 40% chance of getting second offer, after they decline the first one, provided they qualify and have good job performance.
    • Better promotion deal takes sims to even higher position (skip level), but never to the top.
  • Goes without offering:
    • all kinds of penalties, demotions, firings;
    • promotions caused by chance cards.
  • This mod applies to full-time, part-time and pet career tracks.
Versions (choose one):
  • ask-before-promotion
  • ask-before-promotion-NoDeal - this one doesn't have a better promotion deal, in case you don't want it.
Requirements:
  • Requires Apartment Life or Mansions and Gardens
Compatibility:
  • Should be compatible with Pescado's Harder jobs and Cyjon's Job Stopinator.
  • May conflict with Pescado's jobfixes. Looks like it's for OFB jobs. Haven't played them much, so don't know what is wrong with them and what jobfixes fix.
  • This mod may conflict with mods that use the same resources:
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Jobs in University 'hood
Features:
  • Sims and pets can work while being in university 'hood.
    • Sims from teen to elder, including young adults, can find a job on computer and newspaper.
    • Sims can find a job for their cats and dogs living with them on campus.
  • The game processes jobs properly on University lots (for example, checks for being late) and shows you job-related notifications.
  • Working sims and/or pets get carpool to work.
  • 2021 update: sims may look for jobs on non-livable lots. Example: go to a community work center and use a computer to find a job you wouldn't find at home - the list of available jobs would be different.
Versions (choose one):
  • jobs-in-uni-for-all - for sims and pets
  • jobs-in-uni-only-sims - for people only
  • jobs-in-uni-only-pets - for animals only
Requirements:
  • Requires Apartment Life or Mansions and Gardens
Compatibility:
  • Probably conflicts with InTeen.
  • This mod may conflict with mods that use the same resources:
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Young adults want and fear work
Features:
  • Young adults can have wishes and fears about work: find a job, go to work, get a promotion, etc.
Versions (choose one):
  • YA-work-wants-fears
    • Basic old version, I leave it here just in case.
  • YA-work-wants-fears-Better
    • Young adults may want to find a job only if their interest in work is higher then in school and entertainment, OR if they have less then §100 in funds. Thus, fewer students want to get a job, and it makes more sense now.
    • Working sims may want to find another career, if their job performance is poor (not only young adults). Makes for a better story: sometimes people want to change careers, and that's fine.
Requirements:
  • Requires any EP from Nightlife or higher (but I only tested on UC).
Compatibility:
  • Conflicts with a couple of parts of Pescado's wfsanity, which may be resolved by load order (post #83)
  • This mod may conflict with mods that use the same resources:
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Part & full time careers mutually satisfy wants
Features & Versions:
  • career-types-mutually-satisfy-wants
    • Getting a part-time job satisfies a want to get a full-time job in a corresponding career and vice versa - getting a full-time job satisfies a want to get a part-time job in a corresponding career. Only works for maxis careers, because I had to go by individual IDs.
    • To complement this feature, get choose-career-type from above so that everybody can choose between part-time and full-time jobs.
Requirements:
  • Requires Apartment Life or Mansions & Gardens
Compatibility:
  • Doesn't conflict with Lazy Duchess' job reject anymore
  • This mod may conflict with other mods that override the same resources:

See also: related mods

Additional Credits:
The Sims 2 team, SimPE team, MTS & Wiki, and also lientebollemeis and LilSister for testing and feedback.

Type:
      Global Mods: Mods that change the way the game works without requiring any user intervention.

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

This is a multi-part download:


Choose no more than one mod of each type
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
career-types-mutually-satisfy-wants.zip | full time jobs satisfy part time wants and vice versa

Size: 1.1 KB · Downloads: 2,038 · 27th Jul 2022
1.1 KB 2,038 27th Jul 2022
YA-work-wants-fears-Better.zip | students may have job related wants and fears, but BETTER

Size: 1,011 Bytes · Downloads: 1,909 · 9th Oct 2021
1,011 Bytes 1,909 9th Oct 2021
jobs-in-uni-only-pets.zip | jobs on campus - for animals only

Size: 551 Bytes · Downloads: 1,383 · 16th Sep 2021
551 Bytes 1,383 16th Sep 2021
jobs-in-uni-only-sims.zip | jobs on campus - for people only

Size: 547 Bytes · Downloads: 3,727 · 16th Sep 2021
547 Bytes 3,727 16th Sep 2021
jobs-in-uni-for-all.zip | jobs on campus - for sims and pets

Size: 605 Bytes · Downloads: 7,210 · 16th Sep 2021
605 Bytes 7,210 16th Sep 2021
ask-before-promotion-NoDeal.zip | promotions are offered, but no skip deal

Size: 1.6 KB · Downloads: 744 · 16th Sep 2021
1.6 KB 744 16th Sep 2021
YA-work-wants-fears.zip | old version, consider another one

Size: 913 Bytes · Downloads: 6,376 · 5th Jul 2021
913 Bytes 6,376 5th Jul 2021
choose-career-type-CheatOnly.zip | any job type - only cheat interaction

Size: 378 Bytes · Downloads: 2,125 · 28th Jul 2018
378 Bytes 2,125 28th Jul 2018
choose-career-type+teens.zip | any job type - for all including teens (Pets-AL)

Size: 45.0 KB · Downloads: 8,046 · 28th Jul 2018
45.0 KB 8,046 28th Jul 2018
choose-career-type-AL.zip | any job type - for young adults, adults, elders (Pets-AL)

Size: 45.1 KB · Downloads: 15,892 · 25th Jun 2018
45.1 KB 15,892 25th Jun 2018
ask-before-promotion.zip | promotions are offered + a chance of a better deal

Size: 1.6 KB · Downloads: 9,814 · 18th Jan 2018
1.6 KB 9,814 18th Jan 2018
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Test Subject
#51 Old 1st Sep 2018 at 3:35 AM
I'm using the one updated by Chaavik and hosted on Insimenator ( http://www.insimenator.org/index.php/topic,93501.0.html ). Thank you for offering to fix it!
just a girl
Original Poster
#52 Old 1st Sep 2018 at 11:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shickamru
I'm using the one updated by Chaavik and hosted on Insimenator ( http://www.insimenator.org/index.php/topic,93501.0.html ). Thank you for offering to fix it!

Sent you a PM.
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#53 Old 11th Feb 2019 at 1:52 PM
Great mod.
Thanks!
Lab Assistant
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31st Mar 2019 at 6:15 PM
This message has been deleted by Matotty. Reason: wrong download, facepalm
just a girl
Original Poster
#54 Old 5th Apr 2019 at 5:15 PM
Default Update
Fixed YA-work-wants-fears to liberate wants to join specific careers. Due to my oversight, those wants were still unavailable to young adults (big thanks to @Radium for reporting). They should work now.
Please redownload and replace the old file. Also, if you use other want/fear-related mods, it'd be a good idea to run HCDU, just to be on the safe side.
Lab Assistant
#55 Old 20th Apr 2019 at 10:55 PM Last edited by Matotty : 20th Apr 2019 at 11:22 PM.
So it seems that the carpool doesn't show up in the campus at all. I don't know what did I do wrong?
Theorist
THANKS POST
#56 Old 21st Jul 2019 at 9:10 PM
For those YAs who have a job which overlaps going to class there is an easy way around it. I never send YAs to classes since they can do assignments, etc. in their residence and still get the highest grades. This would make it easy to just skip class on those days. For finals, they can just skip work on that day to do their finals. Kind of like juggling real life to fit a change in schedule.

Lamare, thank you so much for all of your mods, they sure do make a difference in game play and giving us and our sims a much more fulfilling life. (:
Test Subject
#57 Old 8th Mar 2020 at 7:02 PM
There's nothing stopping it from working in 2020, is there?
I can't seem to get it to work. The only other "Job-related" mod I'm running is the Level Numbers Added to Job Titles

I made an account specifically to ask this question. This is my first post here, so please let me know if I need to give out more info
Test Subject
#58 Old 27th Mar 2020 at 1:47 AM
Default Disregard this
Quote:
Originally Posted by iFlyAllTheTime
There's nothing stopping it from working in 2020, is there?
I can't seem to get it to work. The only other "Job-related" mod I'm running is the Level Numbers Added to Job Titles

I made an account specifically to ask this question. This is my first post here, so please let me know if I need to give out more info


It works just fine. Don't know what I did, or if I did anything. After a couple of days, it started working just fine.
Lab Assistant
#59 Old 22nd Apr 2020 at 4:11 AM
Its not working for me either...I don't think I did anything wrong
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#60 Old 4th Jul 2020 at 6:47 AM
Now my elder sims don't have to live in poberty. Thanks!
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#61 Old 15th Oct 2020 at 4:47 PM
Just to confirm, can I only have one of the downloads, or can I get the one to ask before promotion *and* the one which lets you choose between part-time and full-time?
just a girl
Original Poster
#62 Old 23rd Oct 2020 at 5:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shmelton
Just to confirm, can I only have one of the downloads, or can I get the one to ask before promotion *and* the one which lets you choose between part-time and full-time?

You can get both, yes.
Field Researcher
#63 Old 9th Nov 2020 at 3:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RainMilk
Its not working for me either...I don't think I did anything wrong


did this ever start working for you? anyone else having this issue?
Test Subject
#64 Old 12th Nov 2020 at 7:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zeroboys008
did this ever start working for you? anyone else having this issue?


I still can't get it to work for me. I don't have many job-related mods installed so I'm going to remove the ones I can, and see if that fixes this.
Field Researcher
#65 Old 17th Nov 2020 at 3:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shmelton
I still can't get it to work for me. I don't have many job-related mods installed so I'm going to remove the ones I can, and see if that fixes this.


That's a great idea, i'll try the same. Let me know if it works for you!
Field Researcher
#66 Old 23rd Nov 2020 at 4:33 AM Last edited by BellaDovah : 25th Nov 2020 at 12:35 AM.
I love this mod - thank you! But, I was wondering, is it possible to edit how often YAs roll job wants because they seem to get them all the time and I only want some of my students to have jobs.
Lab Assistant
#67 Old 7th Jan 2021 at 2:32 AM
Can you choose the career type when setting the job with Simblender or MogHughsons Job Seeking Noticeboard? Or do you have to do it over newspaper/computer?
Test Subject
THANKS POST
#68 Old 21st Mar 2021 at 6:55 AM
Still can't get this work for me and I can't even look for jobs via newspaper anymore.
just a girl
Original Poster
#69 Old 21st Mar 2021 at 9:17 PM
Sorry to hear that, @LucielleMarie. Make sure your game is up to requirements (some packages require certain EPs). Also check for possible conflicts with other mods in your folder.
Field Researcher
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just a girl
Original Poster
#70 Old 16th Sep 2021 at 11:36 PM
Default New mod and updates!
Hi to whoever might visit this page
Today I've added a new mod to complement this set and updated three other mods with better versions.

1. A better version of YA-work-wants-fears
  • Young adults may want to find a job only if their interest in work is higher then in school and entertainment, OR if they have less then §100 in funds. Thus, fewer students want to get a job, and it makes more sense now.
  • Working sims may want to find another career, if their job performance is poor (not only young adults). Makes for a better story: sometimes people want to change careers, and that's fine.
2. Updated jobs-in-uni
  • Sims may look for jobs on non-livable lots. Example: go to a community work center and use a computer to find a job you wouldn't find at home - the list of available jobs would be different.
3. A NoDeal version of ask-before-promotion - this one doesn't have a better promotion deal, in case you don't want it.

4. New mod: career-types-mutually-satisfy-wants
  • Getting a part-time job satisfies a want to get a full-time job in a corresponding career, and vice versa - getting a full-time job satisfies a want to get a part-time job in a corresponding career. Only works for maxis careers, because I had to go by individual IDs.
Test Subject
#71 Old 17th Sep 2021 at 1:37 PM
Thank you for the updates and the new mod, Lamare!

About mod conflicts, I got the following between career-types-mutually-satisfy-wants and Lazy Duchess' job reject, which you did foresee:

Quote:
CT - Offer Job
File Type: BHAV
Group ID: 0x7f8f4eb6
Instance ID: 0x00002006


Is this conflict solvable by loading them in a specific order, or are they truly incompatible? If they are, is there any change we might get a new version of your mod that incorporates LD's mod? I'm only asking because I'm still unsure about which of them I'd get more use in my game, so, please, don't interpret this as a request.

Again, thank you very much for your hard work! It surely enriches my game =)
just a girl
Original Poster
#72 Old 17th Sep 2021 at 2:56 PM Last edited by Lamare : 17th Sep 2021 at 5:34 PM.
The mods are truly incompatible. But I think I might be able to squeeze my code into a different function to avoid this conflict, moreover it'll cover getting a job through networking, which it doesn't at the moment. Stay tuned.

Thank you for the report @nosferatuman

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UPD: career-types-mutually-satisfy-wants is now compatible with ld_jobreject (it now overrides a different BHAV).
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