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Mad Poster
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#1 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 12:19 PM Last edited by SneakyWingPhoenix : 3rd Apr 2019 at 1:52 PM.
Default NPC interractive restaurant and cinema?
How can I have NPCs order from the menu (Business as Usual Bistro) or/and watch movies in Le Cinema Plumbob's LALMS (Large as Life Movie Screens) TV screens in commercial lots? Including without an active household in there.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.
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Scholar
#2 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 12:49 PM
I don't think sims will eat and watch movies/tv at the same time...it's either one or the other. Maybe if you exclude dining tables they will sit on a chair/couch and eat and it will just seem like they are watching the TV/movie screen?
Mad Poster
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#3 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 1:00 PM
Oh no. I meant seperately. Get sims using menus with it's business time industrial oven on the lot, and in the other watch movies through the large tv. I want Sims to either or both of these premium content in the world. They don't autonomously come and use those objects.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.
Scholar
#4 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 1:09 PM Last edited by KatyFernlily : 3rd Apr 2019 at 1:28 PM.
I would assume then, you would just set up your restaurant with the objects required, i.e., the oven and the menus.

There is this mod that may be helpful as well - http://modthesims.info/d/513025/the...-1-63-1-67.html

You could try setting the lot type to "visitors welcome" as I think that draws any type of sim to a lot. There are other mods that will push sims into being more active such as http://simsasylum.com/tfm/index.php...utonomy-fixer/&
http://modthesims.info/d/552227/new...s-in-clubs.html Lot would need to be set as one of the Late Night bars/clubs.
http://simsasylum.com/tfm/index.php...ut-on-the-town/
Mad Poster
#5 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 1:25 PM
I don't know if sims can multitask eating and watching TV, IMO.
Mad Poster
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#6 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 1:51 PM Last edited by SneakyWingPhoenix : 3rd Apr 2019 at 2:11 PM.
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Originally Posted by jje1000
I don't know if sims can multitask eating and watching TV, IMO.

Sorry, badly formulated question. I wasn't asking for multitasking. Just having sims get attracted and use the two premium content as they're suppose (If advertisements aren't lying).

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Originally Posted by KatyFernlily
I would assume then, you would just set up your restaurant with the objects required, i.e., the oven and the menus.

There is this mod that may be helpful as well - http://modthesims.info/d/513025/the...-1-63-1-67.html

You could try setting the lot type to "visitors welcome" as I think that draws any type of sim to a lot. There are other mods that will push sims into being more active such as http://simsasylum.com/tfm/index.php...utonomy-fixer/&
http://modthesims.info/d/552227/new...s-in-clubs.html Lot would need to be set as one of the Late Night bars/clubs.
http://simsasylum.com/tfm/index.php...ut-on-the-town/

I did, even set one to hangout. I also place fitting RH rugs (bistro and diner to actual restaurant, cinema in theater) to magnify the pull.

If I had to guess, is probably because there aren't enough residents (there are three in total resided families) to make a significant affect. Also, could be due to the fact that I have a resort, besides these two, that had got all Sims distracted and pulled. I sort of thought that the number of population wouldn't matter as there are townies anyway.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.
Mad Poster
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Mad Poster
#7 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 6:32 PM
um, they do, especially the bistro oven both the ani's version and original. The movie is just a big TV screen right?

Sanity is overrated.

Nitromon is a type of Pokemon encountered in the Pokemon Nitrome Version series.

There. Mystery solved.
Mad Poster
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#8 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 8:19 PM
Yes, but with barrier to entry system. As for the bistro (using the ani's btw), once I send with her data, some other sims strangely join on there one. One Sim also remain a bit there dining after my Sim left. Perhaps I should look into the thread I made, that had an interestion info of lot attractors and ways to populate. The movie venue could use additional gameplay (register perhaps?) that maybe would pull Sims.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.
Mad Poster
#9 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 8:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SneakyWingPhoenix
Yes, but with barrier to entry system. As for the bistro (using the ani's btw), once I send with her data, some other sims strangely join on there one. One Sim also remain a bit there dining after my Sim left. Perhaps I should look into the thread I made, that had an interestion info of lot attractors and ways to populate. The movie venue could use additional gameplay (register perhaps?) that maybe would pull Sims.


Are you asking how to increase visitors to these lots? Or are you asking how to get them to use the menu/tv more autonomously?

I can only tell you that I use "rebel hangout" as the preferred lot type for these b/c it comes with hours. There are those I use regular hangout for 24 hrs. Both seem to draw people regularly but it really depends on when and where. All my adult sims have jobs so during M-F working hours there simply aren't that many sims available and kids are in school.

It absolutely doesn't matter what kind of lots are around you or in the town really. Though generally sims are pulled to different lots for different reason, but Sims 3 is designed with "stalker mode" in which lots your sim is currently on will naturally pull visitors from other lots. There are exceptions of course such as bar types that are purposely designated as "lame spots" for the evening.

Now when it comes to sims using these items, I find that a "strict" restaurant is the best. I have a Japanese restaurant with both ani's oven and the regurlar bistro oven, both are well used b/c when sims arrive, they got nothing else to do but eat. In another restaurant I have a gambling room upstairs with a bar. In this case, sims would only eat at the restaurant when they're hungry. The attractors for the bar and gambling tables are much greater than the menus.

I would imagine the same for movie theatres. Typically for movie theatres, it would seem like there are less sims b/c these lots are typical larger since you probably have more than 1 movie room. However, I like to combine the movie RH with these theatres to increase visitors. Now most typical movie theatres have a small arcade section, so I included one in most of them. However, arcade machines are really stupid b/c they have super high attraction. So most sims end up playing arcade instead of watching movies. Also, putting in bar areas are bad too b/c they add another attractor for them. If you want sims to just watch the movies, I advise only food registers and vending machines. The only "fun" attractor is the movie screen, that way they will use it more.

Sanity is overrated.

Nitromon is a type of Pokemon encountered in the Pokemon Nitrome Version series.

There. Mystery solved.
Mad Poster
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#10 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 9:02 PM
My world currently has the dining rabbit holes and the movie one. I do wonder If these could interfare, as sims working in this rabbit holes might be made to be busy the whole day. Well I'm sure the more houses I add with more variety of RH, the more crowded and busy the two venues will be.

So, you're recommending to relocate the bistro and diner in another lot, keeping the interactive restaurant without them? Hmm... I should try that out. Yeah, I wasn't planning to add any arcade in the cinema, but I'lll keep that in mind.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.
Mad Poster
#11 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 9:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SneakyWingPhoenix
So, you're recommending to relocate the bistro and diner in another lot, keeping the interactive restaurant without them?


I'm not sure what you mean by that. RH are used as lot attractors, they attract people to your lot.

There's a misconception that if you have a RH on the lot, then sims attracted to the lot may use the RH instead of the lot. It's actually backwards. The RH itself attracts sims, they're attracted to the RH, not the lot. They'll use the RH and when they're done, most of them will choose to remain. This is why certain RH lots are "visitor not allowed" b/c it means the lot itself will not attract sims, only the RH, and also after using the RH, these sims will leave the lot.

So generally, I find hangouts sufficiently enough to generate necessary sims except during work hours were most of sims are at work or school. If I want to "increase" visitors to the lot, I would put a RH on that lot so sims will "stay" on the lot after visiting the RH.

btw, certain RH are pure career RH and won't attract sims such as police station or film studio. Lots I used most as attractors are bookstore, market, spa, diner, bistro, and movie.

Sanity is overrated.

Nitromon is a type of Pokemon encountered in the Pokemon Nitrome Version series.

There. Mystery solved.
Mad Poster
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#12 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 9:58 PM
It's just kinda strange when I pan over these lots with walls put on cutaway, I see Sims either standing on the lot or going to work. Not much interaction with objects going on. I suspect is either due to lacking rabbit hole variety or the damn resort that hooks the sims away.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.
Scholar
#13 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 10:13 PM
http://www.simlogical.com/ContentUp...e/uploads/1078/

Attracts paying Sims to community or residential lots.
Mad Poster
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#14 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 10:31 PM
Thanks, but it's not what I'm seeking for.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.
Theorist
#15 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 10:42 PM
I have one lot that has the bistro rug and the professional stove. The restaurant is always packed with sims eating from the menus.
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#16 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 11:08 PM
I'm pretty sure both objects should have a tunable value to make them more INTERESTING to interact with.

For the Movie Screen:
Code:
[TunableComment("How interesting to look at this (range 0:100) when turned on"), Tunable]
private static int kLookAtInterestingnessWhenTurnedOn;


At first glance, I couldn't find one for the industrial oven and menu, but it has to be there. I've definitely seen NPCs use it, so there has to be a value to determine the attractiveness of the object.
Mad Poster
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#17 Old 3rd Apr 2019 at 11:16 PM
Apologize for doulbe post: I think with the attraction I got figured out. Now I need to know If Sims can autonomously buy a ticket from the ticket machine.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.
Mad Poster
#18 Old 4th Apr 2019 at 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SneakyWingPhoenix
I see Sims either standing on the lot or going to work. Not much interaction with objects going on. I suspect is either due to lacking rabbit hole variety or the damn resort that hooks the sims away.


Well, it's pretty normal for sims to stand on lots. Most times sims only stand there until your camera is active for that lot before they start doing things. I don't think they actually "all" do things all the time, else even with the fastest i7 the game will just lag horribly. Same thing with sims at home, they just disappear and stand there in the house. You can tell b/c if you use that "expensive gate" from Latenight, they actually stand outside. Once you focus and zoom on the lot, then they start moving.

I'm assuming the RH you are using is the movie theatre one? So yes, sims will show up if they have a career there and their primary focus is going to work. After work, it is likely they will go home, same thing with Police Station RH. However, movie theatre is an attractor RH as people will come to enjoy the movie etc... they are the ones that will stay on your lot after the show. I'm not entirely sure if the "movie hours" matter, they might. I have Twoftmama's movie hour adjustment mod so there are more shows and longer shows.

However, I don't think they will pull sims who are at work or school, so again during M-F work hours there simply might not be that many sims in town to pull. Try on a weekend or after 5pm.

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Originally Posted by SneakyWingPhoenix
Now I need to know If Sims can autonomously buy a ticket from the ticket machine.


I don't think they do... I could be wrong. But I don't think they need tickets either. The tickets is only for your active family. It's been a while, but I have that ticket machine thing for a museum and I see NPC go through the gates just fine without buying tickets.

Sanity is overrated.

Nitromon is a type of Pokemon encountered in the Pokemon Nitrome Version series.

There. Mystery solved.
Forum Resident
#19 Old 4th Apr 2019 at 1:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SneakyWingPhoenix
Now I need to know If Sims can autonomously buy a ticket from the ticket machine.


I'm pretty sure they don't buy tickets but they don't NEED tickets. They just can go through the barrier without a ticket.

ETA: I don't really use the barrier much. If I want to charge NPCs for a lot I use the Ticket Machine mod. It's 10 times better than the ticket machine as it auto charges Sims who visit the lot and it has the power to PULL Sims from the world to visit the lot.
Mad Poster
#20 Old 4th Apr 2019 at 3:46 AM
Inactive sims do not go through the animations of purchasing a ticket from the Barrier to Entry machines. But they do purchase one to enter where required. The ticket lands in their inventory until it expires and they are supposed to be charged the required amount for it. I think it was done this way so there wouldn't be queues of foot-stomping sims waiting to use the machines when large households or groups descend on such lots at the same time.

Inge's ticket machine mod is great but, I thought, exclusively for when the active household owns the lot and a member of it is present to "run things." I always thought it was supposed to turn itself off if a non-owner household is active or no one from the active/owning household is present on the lot. Have I been missing something?
Mad Poster
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#21 Old 8th Apr 2019 at 4:30 PM Last edited by SneakyWingPhoenix : 8th Apr 2019 at 4:42 PM.
I see. So far I seen only one Sim (that had took the night sleeping on commercial bench, lol) get in one of the auditoriums and watched a movie without my Sim presence on that lot. I dunno If it's worth my time experiment with different lot assignments and objects to attract masses to the lot, so decent number of lots. Reminder of how this lot looks like:

A bistro and theater RB present as camouflage panels on the floor. It's visitor-allowed and I Just recently set the world classification from town to city. So maybe Sims are expected to arrive at night?

ETA: I decided to be more tested on a more population-densed world such as sunset valley. I'll post the results.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english.
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