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#1
22nd Apr 2015 at 9:44 PM
Last edited by Peni Griffin : 23rd Jul 2015 at 2:02 AM.
22nd Apr 2015 at 9:44 PM
Last edited by Peni Griffin : 23rd Jul 2015 at 2:02 AM.
Bigg City
So I've got it substantially recreated, with all the residential lots placed and edited, and almost all the old community lots placed - but when I go to edit most of them, a problem arises. I can't seem to enter anything with a bar, a DJ booth, or a restaurant stove without spawning NPCs. They appear frozen in their designated spots, and when I save and close, character files appear. I knew this could happen occasionally, but it's happening every time I try to edit a bar or restaurant, and yes, I do have the no respawn hacks in.
I don't particularly care one way or another what my NPCs look like, and if I did I could always AltSimSurgery them; but it bugs me that I can't control this, and it may well matter to a downloader who only wants the infrastructure that she's getting a not-quite-empty hood. So I would like to know if there's any definitive way to keep them from generating.
No doubt I will be back tearing my hair out over something else periodically, too. The planned story for this one is a bit complicated, and I want all the ghosts to be resurrectable if the player gets a wild hair to do it; so elaborate maneuvers will be made, and unintended consequences are sure to arise.
Edit July 23 - Go to post 111 for most current version.
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23rd Apr 2015 at 1:48 AM
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23rd Apr 2015 at 4:08 AM
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23rd Apr 2015 at 5:18 AM
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#5
23rd Apr 2015 at 6:49 AM
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23rd Apr 2015 at 10:07 PM
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29th Apr 2015 at 10:46 PM
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30th Apr 2015 at 11:10 AM
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30th Apr 2015 at 6:57 PM
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30th Apr 2015 at 9:38 PM
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#11
4th May 2015 at 10:26 PM
Last edited by Peni Griffin : 6th May 2015 at 9:34 PM.
Reason: Took out the link. If you want to playtest, scroll down to the current attachment.
4th May 2015 at 10:26 PM
Last edited by Peni Griffin : 6th May 2015 at 9:34 PM.
Reason: Took out the link. If you want to playtest, scroll down to the current attachment.
#12
5th May 2015 at 12:36 AM
Last edited by marka93 : 5th May 2015 at 3:29 AM.
5th May 2015 at 12:36 AM
Last edited by marka93 : 5th May 2015 at 3:29 AM.
Why not use this thread to host your hood on you can have up to 50mb now.
I will add as I go.
9 The Enclave house, missing both doors for the restrooms on the 1st floor, you have 2 landing points with the stairs and the door and it may not allow sims to use the door on the 2nd floor.
11 The Enclave house same carpet in the bathrooms on the 2nd floor as the rooms are and again the landing points for the sliding doors and the stair may stop sims from using the doors. I will test this out after looking at all houses.
1 The Enclave house, extra wall in the kitchen and you may want to paint the walls around the chimneys, 1 backside of the fireplace without walls and looks off to me.
3 The Enclave house, trees through the walls on the 2nd floor and again the landing points intersect doors.
7 The Enclave house, only thing I see here is paint around the chimneys.
8 The Enclave house, from the front the small room on the left is missing a door and the chimneys walls.
6 The Enclave house, back side of the dormer is missing paint and the inside of the chimneys walls.
Enclave Park do lounge chairs work with myshuno? I love the write up for the park.
Enclave Shopping Center no cash registers for both stores.
Palais de Dance no bars have been put in yet.
The Gate Restaurant, no bar and no trash can/trash compacter, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station.
The Billiard Room, no bar and you need at least 2 squares around pool tables for them to work without sims stopping half way through a game.
Crystal Bowl, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium.
Day and Night Spa, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium and only 1 side of the front door has a light and the other side may need one to but if thats the look you are going for then ok. Love the write up here to.
9 Hillfoot Street, missing door to one bedroom.
7 Hillfoot Street, tree through front wall.
1 Hillfoot Street, tree through front wall and 2 dif. color doors in the master bedroom.
3 and 5 Hillfoot Street no problems found.
2 Hillfoot Street done but 4 Hillfoot Street missing paint in the bedroom.
2, 6 and 8 Hillfoot Street missing some paint on the roof walls and 8 is missing paint in bedroom and 10 is missing paint/wall cover in garage.
The Corner Store, carpet in the bathrooms and no cash register.
The Green Belt no problems found.
Wedding on the Go no cash register.
Silver's Gym very, very nice gym and no problems found.
The Tap Room, no bar and you may want to remove 1 photo booth and put in one of the snack machine plus you may want to move the lights in the stair well 1 space for they are clipping the stairs.
Pocket Park, no problems found.
Sing for Your Supper, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium.
Dive 'N' Dine, no bar and the kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium, you may want to move the showers to the other wall and the door in that one shower room over next to the other shower room so it would look about the same for each.
Shop, Drop, 'n' Roll, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium plus no cash register.
Turquoise Strip Center, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium plus no cash register.
Cherry Bowl, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium.
Up-and-Down Club, no bar and the kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium.
C.J. Peggey's, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium and no cash register.
Your Cue Family Restaurant, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium and I am a little worried about the pool tables for they need 2 squares open all the way around to work and play testing all lots with pool tables will need to be done.
The Worn Wire, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium.
Family Fun Center, no problems found.
The Game Room, no problems found.
Municipal Pool, missing some roof parts unless you wanted to leave them open air.
Found a blue tear on lot Stoppen Gap see pic below and no cash registers.
Industry Park, no problems found.
The Lunch Counter, I like the open airness about this lot and the kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium.
On the inside of the half wall 1 tile is blue instead of the white that the rest of the wall has.
The Fountain, need lights in the rest room and may need a light over the chess table and the grills.
San Simeon Chapel, you have a door to no-where in the tower and a extra wall that is not needed across from the door. This lot is a residential and not a community lot.
Will start a new post for the rest of them.
I will add as I go.
9 The Enclave house, missing both doors for the restrooms on the 1st floor, you have 2 landing points with the stairs and the door and it may not allow sims to use the door on the 2nd floor.
11 The Enclave house same carpet in the bathrooms on the 2nd floor as the rooms are and again the landing points for the sliding doors and the stair may stop sims from using the doors. I will test this out after looking at all houses.
1 The Enclave house, extra wall in the kitchen and you may want to paint the walls around the chimneys, 1 backside of the fireplace without walls and looks off to me.
3 The Enclave house, trees through the walls on the 2nd floor and again the landing points intersect doors.
7 The Enclave house, only thing I see here is paint around the chimneys.
8 The Enclave house, from the front the small room on the left is missing a door and the chimneys walls.
6 The Enclave house, back side of the dormer is missing paint and the inside of the chimneys walls.
Enclave Park do lounge chairs work with myshuno? I love the write up for the park.
Enclave Shopping Center no cash registers for both stores.
Palais de Dance no bars have been put in yet.
The Gate Restaurant, no bar and no trash can/trash compacter, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station.
The Billiard Room, no bar and you need at least 2 squares around pool tables for them to work without sims stopping half way through a game.
Crystal Bowl, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium.
Day and Night Spa, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium and only 1 side of the front door has a light and the other side may need one to but if thats the look you are going for then ok. Love the write up here to.
9 Hillfoot Street, missing door to one bedroom.
7 Hillfoot Street, tree through front wall.
1 Hillfoot Street, tree through front wall and 2 dif. color doors in the master bedroom.
3 and 5 Hillfoot Street no problems found.
2, 6 and 8 Hillfoot Street missing some paint on the roof walls and 8 is missing paint in bedroom and 10 is missing paint/wall cover in garage.
The Corner Store, carpet in the bathrooms and no cash register.
The Green Belt no problems found.
Wedding on the Go no cash register.
Silver's Gym very, very nice gym and no problems found.
The Tap Room, no bar and you may want to remove 1 photo booth and put in one of the snack machine plus you may want to move the lights in the stair well 1 space for they are clipping the stairs.
Pocket Park, no problems found.
Sing for Your Supper, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium.
Dive 'N' Dine, no bar and the kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium, you may want to move the showers to the other wall and the door in that one shower room over next to the other shower room so it would look about the same for each.
Shop, Drop, 'n' Roll, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium plus no cash register.
Turquoise Strip Center, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium plus no cash register.
Cherry Bowl, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium.
Up-and-Down Club, no bar and the kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium.
C.J. Peggey's, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium and no cash register.
Your Cue Family Restaurant, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium and I am a little worried about the pool tables for they need 2 squares open all the way around to work and play testing all lots with pool tables will need to be done.
The Worn Wire, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium.
Family Fun Center, no problems found.
The Game Room, no problems found.
Municipal Pool, missing some roof parts unless you wanted to leave them open air.
Found a blue tear on lot Stoppen Gap see pic below and no cash registers.
Industry Park, no problems found.
The Lunch Counter, I like the open airness about this lot and the kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium.
On the inside of the half wall 1 tile is blue instead of the white that the rest of the wall has.
The Fountain, need lights in the rest room and may need a light over the chess table and the grills.
San Simeon Chapel, you have a door to no-where in the tower and a extra wall that is not needed across from the door. This lot is a residential and not a community lot.
Will start a new post for the rest of them.
#13
5th May 2015 at 3:32 AM
Last edited by marka93 : 5th May 2015 at 5:03 AM.
5th May 2015 at 3:32 AM
Last edited by marka93 : 5th May 2015 at 5:03 AM.
Bigg City Art Gallery, no problems found.
Bigg City Park, no problems found but you may want to put a photo booth so the teenagers can make out in and I love the open air stage.
Weddings on the Green, Another blue tear but you may be able to fix it by moving it over 1 space. See pic below. No other problems found.
The Wreck Center, no problems found.
Dockview Park, another blue tear but can be fix by moving the lot next door over 1. Very nice park for the downtrodden.
Abandoned Warehouse, no problems found and is a very interesting residential lot.
Notell Motel no problems found and this one needs a double 
Bar Soon, needs a bar and the pool table needs 2 squares of open space all the way around or sims will stop playing half way through a game.
Stage Fright, I see a lot of puddles showing up on this lot.
Old Churchyard, no problems found.
2 Industry Street, no problems found for the lot but if you extend all the way out and look from the front you will see across the street a blue tear.
Bigg City Library, need cash registers and the dormer needs paint on the back wall and on the inside.
10 Commercial Street, no problems found.
9 Market Street, no problems found.
6 Market Street, no problems found.
The Lunchroom, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium.
The Pool Hall, just needs a bar.
1 Market Street, needs a cash register and very seedy looking.
Firewall, just needs a bar.
Seedy Bowl, just needs the bar no other problems found.
The Shotgun Shack, no problems found.
16 and 20 Domestic Drive, no problems found.
13, 15, 17 and 19 Domestic Drive no problems found.
20 Commercial Street, looks to be unfinished house.
2, 4, 6 and 8 Domestic Drive, no problems found.
1, 3 and 5 Domestic Drive, no problems found.
I now think that is all of them and the only other thing I will add is that you need to go in to every lot and reset them with the roofs up before you start adding sims.
I will also say that I fell in love with over half of the lots and will use a lot of them in my first time play through of my Beginning hoods.
ADD: Each and every lot needs to be played through for a few days to make sure of routing issues and to test out the stair/doorway problem.
Bigg City Park, no problems found but you may want to put a photo booth so the teenagers can make out in and I love the open air stage.
Weddings on the Green, Another blue tear but you may be able to fix it by moving it over 1 space. See pic below. No other problems found.
The Wreck Center, no problems found.
Dockview Park, another blue tear but can be fix by moving the lot next door over 1. Very nice park for the downtrodden.
Abandoned Warehouse, no problems found and is a very interesting residential lot.
Notell Motel no problems found and this one needs a double 
Bar Soon, needs a bar and the pool table needs 2 squares of open space all the way around or sims will stop playing half way through a game.
Stage Fright, I see a lot of puddles showing up on this lot.
Old Churchyard, no problems found.
2 Industry Street, no problems found for the lot but if you extend all the way out and look from the front you will see across the street a blue tear.
Bigg City Library, need cash registers and the dormer needs paint on the back wall and on the inside.
10 Commercial Street, no problems found.
9 Market Street, no problems found.
6 Market Street, no problems found.
The Lunchroom, kitchen is not finish with no trash can/trash compacter or chef station and no podium.
The Pool Hall, just needs a bar.
1 Market Street, needs a cash register and very seedy looking.
Firewall, just needs a bar.
Seedy Bowl, just needs the bar no other problems found.
The Shotgun Shack, no problems found.
16 and 20 Domestic Drive, no problems found.
13, 15, 17 and 19 Domestic Drive no problems found.
20 Commercial Street, looks to be unfinished house.
2, 4, 6 and 8 Domestic Drive, no problems found.
1, 3 and 5 Domestic Drive, no problems found.
I now think that is all of them and the only other thing I will add is that you need to go in to every lot and reset them with the roofs up before you start adding sims.
I will also say that I fell in love with over half of the lots and will use a lot of them in my first time play through of my Beginning hoods.
ADD: Each and every lot needs to be played through for a few days to make sure of routing issues and to test out the stair/doorway problem.
#14
5th May 2015 at 10:51 AM
5th May 2015 at 10:51 AM
Ooo, I'll get to testing this this weekend!
(...I'll also make sure to back-up my neighborhoods first, in case of any issues like the previous populated one )
(...I'll also make sure to back-up my neighborhoods first, in case of any issues like the previous populated one
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#15
5th May 2015 at 11:36 AM
Last edited by Jawusa : 5th May 2015 at 12:07 PM.
5th May 2015 at 11:36 AM
Last edited by Jawusa : 5th May 2015 at 12:07 PM.
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5th May 2015 at 1:51 PM
5th May 2015 at 1:51 PM
#17
5th May 2015 at 3:11 PM
Last edited by marka93 : 5th May 2015 at 3:37 PM.
5th May 2015 at 3:11 PM
Last edited by marka93 : 5th May 2015 at 3:37 PM.
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5th May 2015 at 6:17 PM
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#19
5th May 2015 at 6:39 PM
5th May 2015 at 6:39 PM
#20
6th May 2015 at 1:53 AM
6th May 2015 at 1:53 AM
Okay, it takes about two hours to install all the bars, podia, DJ booths, coffee bars, and cash registers this city needs. Obviously I won't be doing it very often, but I can hardly expect y'all to do it either. I've been through Mark's suggestions, saved a copy, and then placed all the NPC generators, so download this one and do what you're going to do. I'll leave it here for two or three edits and when a major one gets made I'll reupload it, if it seems necessary to get more playtesting after that; otherwise, the next upload will be a populated one and that could be awhile.
Thank you all for any time spent on this, and particularly to Mark going tediously and systematically through every single lot like that, right off the bat.
Re: some of Mark's suggestions:
I have never put a waste basket in a restaurant kitchen, and never missed it. Trash compactors are not available on community lots with this game configuration, and the only available waste basket is the wooden one, which looks odd in a kitchen.
Vending machines are AL and will not be appearing; I agree, they belong on some of these lots, but I can't put them there and retain the limited EP requirements.
I think all the pool tables now have two squares all around, but does that include the diagonal at the corners? If so I'm not sure what to do with the pinball machines at Your Cue. The place obviously needs pinball machines.
Rearranging the showers at Dive 'N' Dine as suggested involved reconfiguring both restrooms and the kitchen, but the kitchen was larger than really necessary anyhow. And now there's a photobooth in a little nook at the very back of the lot, in case someone's too shy to woohoo in public in the hot tubs!
I'm not sure we need a photobooth in Bigg City Park - they can always make out in the hot tub and on the benches. But if the majority agree I can probably fit one onto the pool house. It appears that the tear in the landscape between the Park and Wedding on the Green is on the Park, not the wedding lot. Is there another way to cure this tear than moving one of themEm? I'd have to redo the neighborhood deco, which is not a big deal; but I kind of wanted the two ponds to look connected, and for the wedding lot to look like an extension of the park.
Should there be a cash register and magazine rack in the Art Gallery, in the open space by the restrooms? I've stuck a barista there, and expect a lot of people to make it look like a gift shop, but the only gift shoppy thing I can do with it in these EPs is to put in the magazine racks. And on the other hand - all that open space is the only good place for kicky bag on the lot.
That's not carpet in the Corner Store - it's 100% linoleum, and there didn't seem much point in changing the flooring for the restrooms in that case.
20 Commercial Street - oh, yes, #20! I like how slummy and industrial the place looks from the outside and in neighborhood view, but I have tried six ways from Sunday to work out a floorplan that's good for something and been stumped, so I finally gutted it and left it as a challenge for the player. Suggestions for something less lame to do with it gratefully accepted.
And finally, 3 The Enclave, the damn mock Tudor! I really wanted a mock Tudor in the Enclave, but I am less satisfied with the interior on this than for any other house in the Enclave, and the only one that frustrates me more is #20 above. Again, I am open to suggestion.
Thank you all for any time spent on this, and particularly to Mark going tediously and systematically through every single lot like that, right off the bat.
Re: some of Mark's suggestions:
I have never put a waste basket in a restaurant kitchen, and never missed it. Trash compactors are not available on community lots with this game configuration, and the only available waste basket is the wooden one, which looks odd in a kitchen.
Vending machines are AL and will not be appearing; I agree, they belong on some of these lots, but I can't put them there and retain the limited EP requirements.
I think all the pool tables now have two squares all around, but does that include the diagonal at the corners? If so I'm not sure what to do with the pinball machines at Your Cue. The place obviously needs pinball machines.
Rearranging the showers at Dive 'N' Dine as suggested involved reconfiguring both restrooms and the kitchen, but the kitchen was larger than really necessary anyhow. And now there's a photobooth in a little nook at the very back of the lot, in case someone's too shy to woohoo in public in the hot tubs!
I'm not sure we need a photobooth in Bigg City Park - they can always make out in the hot tub and on the benches. But if the majority agree I can probably fit one onto the pool house. It appears that the tear in the landscape between the Park and Wedding on the Green is on the Park, not the wedding lot. Is there another way to cure this tear than moving one of themEm? I'd have to redo the neighborhood deco, which is not a big deal; but I kind of wanted the two ponds to look connected, and for the wedding lot to look like an extension of the park.
Should there be a cash register and magazine rack in the Art Gallery, in the open space by the restrooms? I've stuck a barista there, and expect a lot of people to make it look like a gift shop, but the only gift shoppy thing I can do with it in these EPs is to put in the magazine racks. And on the other hand - all that open space is the only good place for kicky bag on the lot.
That's not carpet in the Corner Store - it's 100% linoleum, and there didn't seem much point in changing the flooring for the restrooms in that case.
20 Commercial Street - oh, yes, #20! I like how slummy and industrial the place looks from the outside and in neighborhood view, but I have tried six ways from Sunday to work out a floorplan that's good for something and been stumped, so I finally gutted it and left it as a challenge for the player. Suggestions for something less lame to do with it gratefully accepted.
And finally, 3 The Enclave, the damn mock Tudor! I really wanted a mock Tudor in the Enclave, but I am less satisfied with the interior on this than for any other house in the Enclave, and the only one that frustrates me more is #20 above. Again, I am open to suggestion.
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#21
6th May 2015 at 3:29 AM
Last edited by marka93 : 6th May 2015 at 5:48 AM.
6th May 2015 at 3:29 AM
Last edited by marka93 : 6th May 2015 at 5:48 AM.
#22
6th May 2015 at 2:10 PM
Last edited by marka93 : 6th May 2015 at 2:20 PM.
6th May 2015 at 2:10 PM
Last edited by marka93 : 6th May 2015 at 2:20 PM.
Bigg City Art Gallery, Bigg City Park, Weddings on the Green, The Wreck Center, Dockview Park, Abandoned Warehouse, Notell Motel, Bar Soon, Stage Fright, Old Churchyard, 2 Industry Street, Bigg City Library, 10 Commercial Street, 9 Market Street, 6 Market Street, The Lunchroom and The Pool Hall all are done.
1 Market Street, needs a cash register.
All of the Domestic Drive houses are done.
The Shotgun Shack is done.
20 Commercial Street still undone house but can be left that way for the players to finish.
That's it all done now.
You did a great job on all of the buildings here and I would not change anything about them other than what is listed.
1 Market Street, needs a cash register.
All of the Domestic Drive houses are done.
The Shotgun Shack is done.
20 Commercial Street still undone house but can be left that way for the players to finish.
That's it all done now.
You did a great job on all of the buildings here and I would not change anything about them other than what is listed.
#23
6th May 2015 at 5:35 PM
6th May 2015 at 5:35 PM
#24
6th May 2015 at 7:28 PM
Last edited by marka93 : 6th May 2015 at 9:16 PM.
6th May 2015 at 7:28 PM
Last edited by marka93 : 6th May 2015 at 9:16 PM.
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7th May 2015 at 12:15 AM
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