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#1 Old Yesterday at 1:03 PM
Default Having both Legacy Collection and Disc Version on same PC
Hi guys.

After multiple attempts and a lot of headache last year, I got my original disc versions to work on Win 10 (Base + UNI, NL, OFB, SNS). It's glitchy (something in original game content Deco > Misc closes the game (though it didn't on my Win7). Plus it frequently makes my PC randomly reboot). But it works well enough for what I need it for, which is finishing off a Sims story I started 20 years ago (!!!) and never finished. So I want to get it done by the end of the year.

I got the Legacy collection yesterday since it's in the Steam sale.

From this link:
https://forums.ea.com/discussions/t...laptop/11862394
there shouldn't be any conflicts between my disc installation and this version. I'm assuming they're treated as completely different games.

I've heard Legacy is very buggy. I just really want this story done and I still have a couple of hundred screenshots to retake and I don't want to risk the Legacy install messing up my old installation and not being able to get my screenies finished. But having all the EPs (and not having to use a nocd) will give me more scope for screenies.

Are the Legacy bugs worse than what I'm already experiencing with the disc version?

Yes I am a very nervous person so I guess I'm just looking for either reassurance that this shouldn't mess things up or a warning that it's a very bad thing and don't do it. Assuming Legacy works out for me, uninstalling the disc version won't interfere with with the Legacy version? Registry files and the user folder are separate?

If I do install Legacy, I should let the game generate the user files, then move the Sims 2 Legacy folder out somewhere else and replace it with my old user folder changing the name to match? All my old CC, mods and neighbourhood files will work the same? I really do just want to get that story finished so I need my old characters and settings.


Thank you everyone! Sorry for being so nervous!

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#2 Old Yesterday at 1:23 PM Last edited by simmer22 : Yesterday at 1:33 PM.
I think the two versions are separate, so you should be able to use both on the same computer. The Legacy version is known to be buggy, but you can still report bugs, with the hopes it'll get patched. Haven't heard all that much lately, so it's possible the worst bugs have calmed down.

If you had IKEA and the Holiday stuff with your previous packs, you can add in the files (instructions/links here), or anything IKEA/Holiday-based will be missing if you try to use an old savegame.

Don't rename the Legacy folder (savegame location), but replace the folders inside instead (move out, then move in - don't overwrite!). Sometimes, the game is a bit iffy with renamed folders, especially if something is spelled wrong and it can't find the correct folder. If you find you need to reset the game, just delete the folders again and let the game run (this regenerates the folders).

Quote: Originally posted by SilverArrowsAgain
It's glitchy (something in original game content Deco > Misc closes the game (though it didn't on my Win7). Plus it frequently makes my PC randomly reboot).


If you use CC/mods/default replacements, it sounds like a CC item is causing this. It's a known issue, usually fixed by finding the item and removing it.
The rebooting issue might be something else, though (is it while you're playing, and do you also get a Windows bluescreen/error screen? Have you set up your game with GraphicRules, 4GB patch, and all that jazz? If your game is running on the integrated chip or on minimal RAM, this could be causing crashes, possibly even reboots, though that one is a bit more rare...)
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#3 Old Yesterday at 5:39 PM
Quote: Originally posted by simmer22
If you use CC/mods/default replacements, it sounds like a CC item is causing this. It's a known issue, usually fixed by finding the item and removing it.
The rebooting issue might be something else, though (is it while you're playing, and do you also get a Windows bluescreen/error screen? Have you set up your game with GraphicRules, 4GB patch, and all that jazz? If your game is running on the integrated chip or on minimal RAM, this could be causing crashes, possibly even reboots, though that one is a bit more rare...)


Thank you! No it's not CC as I had the same issue with the DL folder removed. I recategorised everything in my DL folder that was deco > misc as sculpture instead. They all show fine. Even with no CC under deco misc, it still crashes. I narrowed it down to an outdoor item by browsing by room. It's not a big deal though.

I didn't use the 4GB patch as it said its for M&G and the highest I have is Seasons. idk though. I had to manually change the graphics to enable antialiasing as the graphics adjuster did nothing.

Okay, I'll backup my folders and install the Legacy version and hope I don't mess up! Thanks again for the reply!
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#4 Unread Today at 11:12 AM
Sorry, one more question before I install the Steam version. When it comes to CC tools (I make a lot of character specific content for my stories), what do I need to know? I know there's a modded version of Bodyshop and Homecrafter, but will my disc versions continue to work with the disc installs? The warning on the modded bodyshop page is scaring me. What about Simpe? I only just got it to work for recolours.

Also, I don't get bluescreens, the game will hang for a second, then the PC will just reboot. I have a decent setup these days, I can run high end games no problem, so I'm assuming it's just a compatibility thing. The deco misc just gives an "application has crashed. application will now terminate" message once I get to a certain page of items even with the DL folder removed. But it didn't when I was running it (same DL folder) on Win7.



(Edit: aww your sim character has a little brother called Liam, just like mine!)
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#5 Unread Today at 1:24 PM Last edited by simmer22 : Today at 1:46 PM.
I'm not sure about Bodyshop, homecrafter and SimPE.

I think you can have different SimPE versions, so as long as you can install in two different places and direct them to the two different games, I thin that could work. You'll want to keep in mind that objects made with all/most EPs might not work for a game with lower EPs, and the Package files will most likely be associated and opened with whichever SimPE version you installed last, so it could get a bit confusing if you double-click files to open SimPE (open correct SimPE version first).

For Bodyshop + Homecrafter I'm not sure, probaby best to ask the uploader of the Legacy version? Sometimes people have already asked in the comments, so check through there first.

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It is possible the game hanging for a few seconds is a bluescreen in disguise (frozen screen). I've noticed the duration of some of the Windows bluescreens have gotten a lot shorter (5-10 seconds max).

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Can you attach the "config-log" file (found in the Logs folder for the savegame location, usually has the computer name in front and "config-log" at the end)? It can tell some about how the game is reading the RAM, which source it's using (especially if you've got dual RAM) and a few other things.

Having a decent computer setup isn't always enough if the game isn't comprehending it. More often than not (especially with the older versions, I think this was mostly "fixed" with Legacy) the game automatically goes to the lowest settings if it can't properly read newer hardware, which causes a whole host of trouble.

(Had to think for a minute, because it's been nearly 20 years since I wrote that story - and I absolutely feel the whole "need to finish story", because I haven't finished a chapter for my current story in 10 years...)
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