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Pettifogging Legalist!
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#1 Old 9th Jun 2010 at 10:01 PM
Default Question re. the Consignment Store
I don't have Ambitions, I'm just trying to figure out whether it might be worth getting it.

I'm a bit unclear on how the whole Consignment thing works – I was assuming it's basically like the Grocery Store, but there are a couple of reviews where it says things like "in the Consignment store sims can put up things for other sims to buy".

Does it actually work that way? I mean, is it like a big bucket where one sim can put in, say, a painting, and another sim can buy that exact painting? Or is it just a black hole like the grocery .. where things are being sold to nowhere at random, and bought from nowhere?

Would appreciate if anyone could shed some light on this. Thank you!

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Test Subject
#2 Old 21st Jun 2010 at 10:00 PM
I have an Inventor Sim and I go there to put my inventions up for sale. You can walk in and look around and view things. Their stock changes from day to day so it's not just a set stock. Usually after a day or 2, I get a pop-up saying my item has sold (I have the Born Salesman trait so it always sells for more than it's worth). You can also build up a reputation, almost like how it works on ebay and get good or bad reputation.

I just got ambitions so I'm still learning and playing around with it, but that's the main gist of the consignment store.
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#3 Old 21st Jun 2010 at 10:07 PM
Basically what Zokoro said. You can actually see inside the store and buy things right there. There's also 2 stories or so above the store where it's empty and I've heard people putting in salons or tattoo salons in those open spaces. What I do wanna know is if you can have your own store,and it seems like you can get close to having one.
Eminence Grise
#4 Old 22nd Jun 2010 at 2:00 AM
However, to address PB's main question, I don't believe it's actually the case that other sims BUY your stuff... that is, you will get a message saying your item has sold, but has anybody ever seen something they made and consigned in another sim's house or inventory? I believe it's just an elaborate illusion.

You will definitely see items for sale in the store that say they were created by other sims in town with relevant skills... but again, I don't believe that the other sim actually crafted the item and put it up for sale (Sims don't do creative things when you aren't watching them, and a good thing too -- who would put out all the inventors' butt fires? ) Again, it's part of the illusion. And of course you'll only find generic paintings by other sims -- no still lives or portraits. Still, attributing crafted items to townies is a nice touch and I appreciate it

Some other nice things about the Store: the inventory is random but you can buy things there it might otherwise be hard to find, including gems and metals (occasionally rare), the random crafted stuff I was talking about (which gives you a way to get say a time machine or a nice sculpture without being an inventor), and stuff from WA destinations, including skill books, cameras, and nectar. I use it a heck of a lot more than I use the grocery store... you never know what you'll find.

And there is a consignment skill, complete with skill challenges: the more you sell, the better return you get on your items and the faster they sell.

(Tip: something I discovered while my inventor was looking for Life Fruit seeds -- one quick way to beat the "consign 25 items" challenge is to sell seeds at the store. They don't go for much but if you sell a pile you can win the challenge and get whatever the reward for that is.)

As for having your own store -- you can buy it, like any other community lot, but you can't choose the stock, and you can't sell stuff yourself. The register will be manned by a random townie, just like the WA registers.

Personally I think this is a great addition, but it's not everything it could be, and in particular, it's not really a way to transfer your crafted stuff to other Sims around town. The way to do THAT is via the Architect career, where you can put stuff from your family inventory in sims' houses, and be well-rewarded for it too Sims always receive handmade items very gratefully!

Quote: Originally posted by Zokoro
I have an Inventor Sim and I go there to put my inventions up for sale.


Just so you know, Zokoro, if your inventor is self-employed, there's currently a bug that prevents inventors from getting job credit for selling at the Store (you have to sell in inventory). That will presumably be patched.
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#5 Old 22nd Jun 2010 at 4:38 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Srikandi
However, to address PB's main question, I don't believe it's actually the case that other sims BUY your stuff... that is, you will get a message saying your item has sold, but has anybody ever seen something they made and consigned in another sim's house or inventory? I believe it's just an elaborate illusion.


You are right, it is an illusion. Stuff sold from the consignment shop is not sold to other sims, and if your sim puts stuff into the inventory of the store, and you switch houses, the items are not there.

I had one guy sell veggies he grew to the store. I then selected the buy option, and saw that the veggies grown by my sim were there. I then switched houses, and had another sim go straight to the store to buy those items, but they were no there. Only the default items were for sale.

Another thing that I have not yet tested is that if my guy sells the items into store 1, then goes to store 2, will those items be there as well, or are the items only sold in the register he sold them to.

The consignment store is one of those things that I would put in the category of good idea, bad execution. I myself was very disappointed on how it worked. But I would still recommend buying Ambition because the consignment shop has lots of potential, it just needs hacks to get those potentials out.
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#6 Old 22nd Jun 2010 at 1:59 PM
Thank you all for the info =) – the detailed gameplay description in ani's post is particularly helpful! That's exactly what I wanted to know – and this sort of thing is never mentioned in reviews or general discussion.

I'll wait and see whether anyone manages to write a mod that actually makes this work (I agree, the potential seems to be there).

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#7 Old 22nd Jun 2010 at 2:55 PM
Seeing as the info required has been acquired < can I ask this question rather than start a new thread:

If I have a lot with, say, a Consignment store, a laundrette, and a Relic merchants on the same lot, but I can only assign one label to the lot, are there any disadvantages to marking it as a market or visitors allowed, as opposed to marking it as a Consignment store? Or will the clientele and effect be the same?

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#8 Old 22nd Jun 2010 at 3:03 PM
It might confuse the NPCs, but I'm not sure. The clientele will definitely change depending on how you set it. The only way I can see this working easily is if you mark the lot as a laundromat, place the two registers, and accept that most visitors are going to be Neat Sims, and Slobs won't turn up at all. If you set it as a Consignment Store, Market, or Visitors Allowed then I don't think NPCs will use the laundry items, but I could be wrong on that. Worth testing.

EA have made it reasonably difficult to pull off mixed lots.

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#9 Old 22nd Jun 2010 at 4:36 PM
I see. Thanks kiwi_tea.

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#10 Old 22nd Jun 2010 at 5:30 PM
The advantage of the Consignment Store, Market, or Visitors Allowed settings would be that no traits are discouraged from visiting with any of these settings. And of course, the map tags. Thankfully, the laundromat map tag could be passed off as representing a clothing shop or a boutique.

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#11 Old 22nd Jun 2010 at 6:34 PM
Im thinking maybe my game is just wonky. I can buy metals and jewels from the consignment store, but I can't sell the ones I find? if that is true, then that is VERY lame.
Scholar
#12 Old 22nd Jun 2010 at 9:32 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Srikandi
As for having your own store -- you can buy it, like any other community lot


That's not exactly true. I found out that you can't own the saloon, and that's very sad because I wanted my Stylist to be the owner of it. D:
Lab Assistant
#13 Old 22nd Jun 2010 at 10:07 PM
Does anyone else find the consignment store to be ultra buggy? In my game, I keep not being able to buy/sell anything unless I cancel all of my current consignments, and nothing of mine will sell anymore...
Eminence Grise
#14 Old 23rd Jun 2010 at 1:32 AM
rmrm, there's a known bug where things you've put up for sale that don't sell can have a negative number of days assigned to them. You can clear this up by choosing "cancel consignments" (or something like that) from the register menu. Once you've canceled everything, you should be able to use the buy menu again.

Hopefully this will be patched, but in the meantime, at least there's a workaround.

Quote: Originally posted by MystiTsu
Im thinking maybe my game is just wonky. I can buy metals and jewels from the consignment store, but I can't sell the ones I find? if that is true, then that is VERY lame.


Not just your game. I suspect that's a bug too :/ However, if you have WA, you're better off transmuting your metals and gems anyway.
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#15 Old 23rd Jun 2010 at 1:48 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Srikandi
Not just your game. I suspect that's a bug too :/ However, if you have WA, you're better off transmuting your metals and gems anyway.


The Core is written to allow only ICraft objects and Sculptures to be sold at consignment.

ICraft objects being the following: Photographs, Nectar, Fruits, Veggies, Fish, Written Books, Paintings, and Inventions.

Appears to be pretty intentional to me, so I have little hope they will change it any time soon.

Cheers.

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Eminence Grise
#16 Old 23rd Jun 2010 at 1:54 AM
Ah, thanks for the info. Wonder why they put gems and metals in for sale then. Because, yknow, it makes it LOOK like a bug.

Perhaps EA is worried about their reputation for being "TOO perfect", and thus wants to trick us into thinking there are bugs in their games!
Field Researcher
#17 Old 2nd Jul 2010 at 5:28 AM
Does anyone one know of a hack available or in progress of being made that will allow you to sell Gems and metals. because thats really dumb if you can't sell them but you can buy them. When ever I find something about this game i don't like A hack usually pops up to remedy this. can you sell Relics you find in other countries at the consignment store or do you need a relic shop?
Eminence Grise
#18 Old 2nd Jul 2010 at 5:41 AM
I don't know of a mod that lets you consign gems and metals, but the right place to ask is in Where Can I Find, in the Help menu.

You need a relic shop to sell relics (can't consign em), but you can add one to your consignment store just by adding the relic cash register to it Cash registers are in the community objects sort in Build mode.

BTW, since this thread has been bumped, Ani_'s mod is up now -- makes it possible to put stuff up for sale that other sims can actually buy, and buy stuff to put up for sale: http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=409607 .
Fat Obstreperous Jerk
#19 Old 2nd Jul 2010 at 10:11 AM
Quote: Originally posted by ani_
You are right, it is an illusion. Stuff sold from the consignment shop is not sold to other sims, and if your sim puts stuff into the inventory of the store, and you switch houses, the items are not there.
Sounds like an idiotic feature/bug that needs to be killed. I will look into it sometime this weekend, perhaps.

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#20 Old 2nd Jul 2010 at 11:33 AM
Quote: Originally posted by juansfalcin
That's not exactly true. I found out that you can't own the saloon, and that's very sad because I wanted my Stylist to be the owner of it. D:


I was hoping to do the same thing and thought it a loss but clicked on the saloon one fine sunny day when I had enuf cash to check other places of purchase and found that I could purchase the saloon... so keep checking
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#21 Old 2nd Jul 2010 at 5:35 PM
Quote: Originally posted by MystiTsu
Does anyone one know of a hack available or in progress of being made that will allow you to sell Gems and metals.


Here ya go: http://ts3.tscexchange.com/index.php?topic=4011.0

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Eminence Grise
#22 Old 3rd Jul 2010 at 3:15 AM Last edited by Srikandi : 3rd Jul 2010 at 3:45 AM.
Quote: Originally posted by klynn1369
I was hoping to do the same thing and thought it a loss but clicked on the saloon one fine sunny day when I had enuf cash to check other places of purchase and found that I could purchase the saloon... so keep checking


LOL -- I am pretty sure that juansfalcin meant the "salon", not the "saloon", since he mentioned a stylist

Just for the record (since I've noticed a few simmers confusing these items since the Ambitions release), the place you get your hair done is a salon, and a saloon is a bar.

And wow, Twallan -- nice mod :O Course now I'm wondering if it conflicts with Ani's consignment mod... prolly does :/
Top Secret Researcher
#23 Old 3rd Jul 2010 at 7:50 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Srikandi
Course now I'm wondering if it conflicts with Ani's consignment mod... prolly does :/


Are you referring to the "Shop from inventory" mod ?

Ani_'s mod adds a brand new interaction, while mine replaces the existing EA interaction.

There should be no conflict between the two.


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Eminence Grise
#24 Old 3rd Jul 2010 at 8:14 PM
Ahh, alrighty, good to know :D
Test Subject
#25 Old 4th Jul 2010 at 4:34 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Srikandi
LOL -- I am pretty sure that juansfalcin meant the "salon", not the "saloon", since he mentioned a stylist

Just for the record (since I've noticed a few simmers confusing these items since the Ambitions release), the place you get your hair done is a salon, and a saloon is a bar.

And wow, Twallan -- nice mod :O Course now I'm wondering if it conflicts with Ani's consignment mod... prolly does :/


I can understand that and I believe you can purchase that too but sorry to everyone for the mistake I just thought juansfalcin wanted to purchase the saloon cuz its a nice looking building and has lots of room for a stylist to set up a business as was my intentions cuz my sim just happens to be a stylist simbot..

Twallan thank you for the mod tis wonderful! and to help out I have both Twallan's mod and Ani's mod (t hank you Ani if your readin this) and they are both working great as far as I know!
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