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Le Carrera
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#1 Old 10th Mar 2015 at 2:17 PM
Default Eggs Machiavellian??
I can't figure out if this recipe has a real world analogue, or if it is just made up. It appears to be fried eggs with watermelon steak, which is made in the real world by cooking a slice of watermelon on a grill, pan, or in an oven. However I don't think watermelon steak is typically a breakfast item, nor have I ever heard of it being served with eggs. Has anyone ever heard of such a dish IRL?

On an unrelated note, "Hot and Sour soup" should technically be a Shang Simla recipe, as it is a southern Asian dish, but it wasn't introduced until Supernatural, so I guess I'll let that one pass. :P
ShigemiNotoge
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#2 Old 10th Mar 2015 at 4:33 PM
It's a joke on the dish Eggs Benedict which is poached eggs on an English muffin with ham or bacon.
Machiavellian having an opposite meaning to Benedict, has a conflicting recipe using fruit instead of meat.
Also note that Machiavellian can mean deceitful, and cooked watermelon, from a distance if shaped correctly could be mistaken for a meat product. Sort of like raisins in a muffin look like chocolate chips.
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sweetdevil
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#3 Old 10th Mar 2015 at 6:08 PM
Hot and sour soup is a staple of many cultures. One of the most significant Romanian dishes is this, with various combinations of vegetables and meat
ewenk7
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#4 Old 11th Mar 2015 at 12:42 AM
I did read a bad fanfic once where they were having grilled cantaloupe and waffles for breakfast. That's sort of similar. As is usual with the genre, though, it may have been a troll fic, though.
Thranduil Oropherion
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#5 Old 11th Mar 2015 at 3:14 AM
When I ponder my Sims food, I get a bit concerned about goopy carbonara ... Goopy? Really? Goopy? What deranged mind came up with that?
Where does he/she live and can I ask some serious questions about it whilst rummaging around in their fridge searching (one presumes) for free range Goop.
sweetdevil
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#6 Old 11th Mar 2015 at 5:11 AM
Quote: Originally posted by fairycake89
When I ponder my Sims food, I get a bit concerned about goopy carbonara ... Goopy? Really? Goopy? What deranged mind came up with that?
Where does he/she live and can I ask some serious questions about it whilst rummaging around in their fridge searching (one presumes) for free range Goop.
I think it's a reference to Goopy GilsCarbo.
It looks delicious either way
Mnory
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#7 Old 11th Mar 2015 at 8:11 AM
Quote: Originally posted by fairycake89
When I ponder my Sims food, I get a bit concerned about goopy carbonara ... Goopy? Really? Goopy? What deranged mind came up with that?
Where does he/she live and can I ask some serious questions about it whilst rummaging around in their fridge searching (one presumes) for free range Goop.


I always thought goopy carbonara is pretty much like real life spaghetti carbonara, and they call it goopy because it's different from actual carbonara in a way that it looks very creamy in the game, and carbonara does not have cream.

Some sim food just makes my mind wander...
Le Carrera
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#8 Old 11th Mar 2015 at 2:22 PM
Yeah, it definitely looks a lot more like alfredo sauce, not carbonara.
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#9 Old 11th Mar 2015 at 8:27 PM
Quote: Originally posted by ShigemiNotoge
. Sort of like raisins in a muffin look like chocolate chips.
Those deceitful, evil, dream-crushing raisins. I hate when I bite into a muffin, gleefully anticipating my chocolate sugar high, only to realize at the last minute that there are no chocolate chips.
ShigemiNotoge
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#10 Old 11th Mar 2015 at 8:29 PM
Quote: Originally posted by ButchSims
Those deceitful, evil, dream-crushing raisins. I hate when I bite into a muffin, gleefully anticipating my chocolate sugar high, only to realize at the last minute that there are no chocolate chips.

It's the worst kind of lies D;
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Mammal
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#11 Old 11th Mar 2015 at 10:57 PM
One time I was served a ham and turkey sandwich with raspberry yogurt and the guy who cooked it for me made me dip the sandwich in the yogurt. Two great tastes that taste like ass together. I'm still not convinced he wasn't fucking with me.

Food is weird, is my point.
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Thranduil Oropherion
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#12 Old 11th Mar 2015 at 11:30 PM
Quote: Originally posted by Mammal
One time I was served a ham and turkey sandwich with raspberry yogurt and the guy who cooked it for me made me dip the sandwich in the yogurt


There are some sick pervs in this world ...

On a similar note, I know someone who regularly and willingly eats cheese and raspberry jam* sandwiches .. Needless to say I distance myself from that person so fast I leave skid marks.

*I think Americans call 'jam' jelly ...
kiatyn
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#13 Old 11th Mar 2015 at 11:42 PM
Jam = has seeds
Jelly = no seeds

Is this the same elsewhere?

And am I the only one who gets hungry looking at the pixels of food my sims eat?
ShigemiNotoge
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#14 Old 11th Mar 2015 at 11:56 PM
Quote: Originally posted by kiatyn
Jam = has seeds
Jelly = no seeds

Is this the same elsewhere?

Traditionally jam is composed of a lot more real fruit than jelly which uses more gelatin.
Jam usually has large chunks of the fruit in question in it and jelly has a more smooth consistency
Jelly uses a lot more sugar than jam.
These are general rules of thumb that can be deviated from in specific instances by specific makers, but they usually hold up.
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#15 Old 12th Mar 2015 at 12:28 AM
I don't put seeds in my apple jam. Cinnamon, however, yes.
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#16 Old 12th Mar 2015 at 1:38 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Mnory
I always thought goopy carbonara is pretty much like real life spaghetti carbonara, and they call it goopy because it's different from actual carbonara in a way that it looks very creamy in the game, and carbonara does not have cream.

Some sim food just makes my mind wander...


Carbonara doesn't have cream?
Here in Aussieland, pasta carbonara is made with cream. What do they make it with where you live?

And I always wondered about this sim recipe. I could never understand why they'd want to eat fried eggs with a big chunk of watery watermelon. It just never seemed right or even appetising to me.

The key lime and pumpkin pie does though! I've been looking for a good pumpkin pie recipe for years that doesn't use something called "canned filling" which we don't get here ( at least, not in this tiny town ) but I've never found one.
And jam is jam down here, whether it has seeds or not.
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#17 Old 12th Mar 2015 at 2:47 AM
I've heard of cheese on top of apple pie*, but never cheese and jam sandwiches. Blech. As for the pumpkin pie, here's a recipe that doesn't use canned pumpkin filling. Basically, you make a puree using a fresh pumpkin and use that instead. I've never liked pumpkin pie, but that's mostly because the canned pumpkin stuff looks like cat food. No idea if I'd like this better!

*Now, I can see the appeal of say, a nice piece of sharp cheddar with your apple pie but my grandpa likes to eat his pie with Velveeta, which is "processed cheese product." Blech.
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Pary
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#18 Old 12th Mar 2015 at 3:09 AM
Thank you Mammal ! :lovestruc *bookmarks a million times so as not to lose it*

I've never had apple pie with cheese, but my parents are English, so my Dad taught me ( and now my kids ) to love a good slice of crumbly vintage cheese with some dark, rich fruitcake. It's delicious.
I'm assuming that Velveeta is that processed cheese stuff that's almost pliable? Like Kraft Cheese you can get here in a box?
Thranduil Oropherion
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#19 Old 12th Mar 2015 at 3:32 AM
Quote: Originally posted by 310175
I don't put seeds in my apple jam. Cinnamon, however, yes.


Don't apple seeds contain a certain amount of cyanide?

*needs a book of Victorian Poisons to flick through*
Thranduil Oropherion
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#20 Old 12th Mar 2015 at 3:34 AM
Don't apple seeds contain a certain amount of cyanide?

*needs a book of Victorian Poisons to flick through*

Quote: Originally posted by Pary
but my parents are English, so my Dad taught me ( and now my kids ) to love a good slice of crumbly vintage cheese with some dark, rich fruitcake. It's delicious.


^^^^ I second that, it's truly wonderful!
ShigemiNotoge
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#21 Old 12th Mar 2015 at 3:56 AM
Quote: Originally posted by fairycake89
Don't apple seeds contain a certain amount of cyanide?

*needs a book of Victorian Poisons to flick through*

Indeed they do. It's a cyanide compound known as amygdalin composed of cyanide and sugar. Fortunately or unfortunately (depending on your thoughts on humanity) it's not enough of a dose to pose a danger to consumers as the body is able to detoxify it in small doses. However, if you were to sit down and munch on just apple seeds by the handful, you might feel some effects. But that's pretty unrealistic. And not chewing the seeds means the compound doesn't even enter the body to need to be detoxified in the first place.
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#22 Old 12th Mar 2015 at 7:00 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Pary
Carbonara doesn't have cream? Here in Aussieland, pasta carbonara is made with cream. What do they make it with where you live?
When you put cream in it, the result may turn out edible, but it's not carbonara. Carbonara only contains pasta, ham (pancetta), olive oil or butter, parmesan and egg yolk. The trick is to mix the stuff with the hot pasta without giving the egg yolk a chance to clot. Also you may vary by adding e.g. garlic and still call it carbonara.

Tbh though, even some Italians make Carbonara with cream these days. Tastes completely different IMHO and smells lazy and inept. :P
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Pary
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#23 Old 12th Mar 2015 at 8:39 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Buzzler
When you put cream in it, the result may turn out edible, but it's not carbonara. Carbonara only contains pasta, ham (pancetta), olive oil or butter, parmesan and egg yolk. The trick is to mix the stuff with the hot pasta without giving the egg yolk a chance to clot. Also you may vary by adding e.g. garlic and still call it carbonara.

Tbh though, even some Italians make Carbonara with cream these days. Tastes completely different IMHO and smells lazy and inept. :P


Interesting! You learn something new every day, I never realised that. Every single recipe I've ever seen for it contains cream.
Next time I make it, I think I will make it the proper way.
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#24 Old 12th Mar 2015 at 8:45 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Buzzler
When you put cream in it, the result may turn out edible, but it's not carbonara. Carbonara only contains pasta, ham (pancetta), olive oil or butter, parmesan and egg yolk. The trick is to mix the stuff with the hot pasta without giving the egg yolk a chance to clot. Also you may vary by adding e.g. garlic and still call it carbonara.

Tbh though, even some Italians make Carbonara with cream these days. Tastes completely different IMHO and smells lazy and inept. :P


Completely agree. As an "italian girl" living in Italy, I grew up knowing that carbonara is made without cream (panna). Some add cream to avoid eating non cooked eggs, the taste etc.... A good carbonara does NOT taste like egg.

I've always thought that the carbonara in game always looked "goopy" till I saw what it's called in english. That gave me a laugh .
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