Doctors Need Degrees
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Now updated to version 2.0 for more flexibility and easier updates for custom careers
In the real world, it is not possible to be a doctor, a teacher, a scientist, or a lawyer without a degree. While the lowest levels of the career are something that anyone can do, very quickly you would find that the next job up is only available with the right qualifications.
Other careers, however, don't need to be so strict. Why would criminals or gamers care what sort of education you've had? And why do you need a degree to get any job in Paranormal?
If you've ever been bothered by this in your sims 2 games, this mod is for you!
How does it work?
Sims get Education Points depending on their previous studies:
- Sims that failed high school get 0 points.
- Sims that achieved between D- and C- at high school get 1 point.
- Sims that achieved at least a C at high school but either never went to university or dropped out early (or were created in CAS) get 2 points.
- Sims that attended university and reached at least their Junior year (for the 2YD version) or Senior year (for the 3YD version) before dropping out or being expelled get 3 points.
- Sims who graduated university get 4 points.
- Theoretically, sims who have graduated university and have a specific token in their inventories can have 5 points, but as of right now there aren't any careers with this option.
Each career then has a number of points that are needed for promotion to each level. Some careers can let sims be promoted even though they don't have enough points, but they'll have to get lucky for that to work.
Here are the points needed for each career:
Careers: Medicine, Science, Natural Science, Law, Education
| Level | Points Required |
|---|---|
| 1 - 3 | 2 |
| 4 - 5 | 3 |
| 6 - 10 | 4 |
Careers: Business, Law Enforcement, Military, Show Business, Journalism, Architecture, Intelligence, Oceanography
| Level | Points Required |
|---|---|
| 1 | 0 |
| 2 - 3 | 1 |
| 4 - 5 | 2 |
| 6 - 7 | 3 |
| 8 - 10 | 4 |
Careers: Athletics, Culinary, Politics, Slacker, Artist, Paranormal, Music, Entertainment, Dance
| Level | Points Required |
|---|---|
| 1 - 3 | 0 |
| 4 - 5 | 1 |
| 6 - 7 | 2 |
| 8 - 10 | 3 |
As a default, Criminal, Adventurer and Gamer careers do not care about education, nor do any custom careers unless the career is updated to work with this mod.
What about promotions from chance cards?
When a promotion comes up in a chance card, this mod runs the same checks as it would for any other promotion, and so the promotion may not happen. In that case, you will still get the promotion bonus (as otherwise you wouldn't get anything for a successful chance card pick). This is also true for the reputation bonus promotion you can sometimes get.
What about getting a job in the first place?
The Artist, Natural Science, Paranormal, and Show Business careers no longer require a degree. Medicine, Science, Natural Science, Education, and Law, all do require at least 2 education points (a C or above at high school).
What do I need to download?
Get either "KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-3YD" or "KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-2YD" and all of the folder of Careers, the easy Token check and the easy Memory check.
What if I want one of the careers to have different rules?
Open up that career in SimPE and have a look at the BCON file called "Education Requirements by Level" (if the only thing you can change is the labels, you've got the wrong one and need to click on the other one). Lines 1-10 are the points needed for each level, and the chances of passing the points check with insufficient points are in lines 13-16 (as percentages, so out of 100).
How do I update a custom career to use this mod?
I'm working on a folder of SimPE extracts to add to custom careers to enable this mod. The code will only be read by the game if the rest of this mod is installed.
Code Modified:
| Type | Group | Instance | Name |
|---|---|---|---|
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 2005 | Function - Qualify for Level? |
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 2008 | Sub - Chance Card - Results |
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 2017 | Sub - Chance Card - Alter Budget |
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 2097 | CT - Hobby Card - Results |
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 2117 | Sub - Hobby Card - Alter Budget |
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 206C | Unlock Check |
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 209F | Sub - Secret Networking Promotion/Demotion |
| STR# | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 012D | Dialog prim string set |
| STR# | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 012F | Call Named Tree prim string set |
| BHAV | 0x7F441294 | 204C | Career - Unlock Check |
| BHAV | 0x7FC2ED7B | 1007 | Filter - Unlock |
New Code:
| Type | Group | Instance | Name |
|---|---|---|---|
| BHAV | 0x7F8F4EB6 | 20B9 | Function - Get My Education Score in Temp2 |
| BHAV | 0x7FC2ED7B | 1009 | Function - Get Education Score in Temp2 |
| BHAV | each career | 1008 | CT - Qualify for Level - Education Fail? |
| BHAV | each career | 1009 | CT - Qualify for Level - Education Block? |
| BCON | each career | 105F | Education Requirements by Level |
Conflicts:
| Name | Conflicts with | What to do |
|---|---|---|
| Cyjon's Edukashun iz Gud | most of this | Remove - this is an expanded version |
| Pescado's harderjobs | Function - Qualify for Level | Get the lower starting levels if my mod loads last |
| Monique's Work & Bring Home Friend Dialog | Dialog prim string set | Works provided this loads last |
| Cyjon's Reputation Job Sanity | Dialog prim string set | Probably works provided this mod loads last |
Other conflicts are probably not compatible.
Updates:
Version 1.1: Custom careers now default to the Careers that a diploma is useful category, so redownload if you have a custom career. Instructions for adding custom careers to other categories are also available here
Version 1.2: Fixed an issue with the wrong messages appearing when a sim owns their own car. Fixed an issue with the wrong amounts of money given/removed for chance cards at high levels (I hope).
Version 1.3: Fixed an issue with wrong bonuses at higher job levels.
Version 1.4: Fixed an issue with chance card bonuses (thanks LimeyYoshi).
Version 2.0: Redesigned the code for more options for custom careers, or for editing individual careers to suit preferences.
Thanks:
Cyjon, whose Edukashun iz Gud was the base for this mod, and whose code I have shamelessly used thanks to their generous 'don't reinvent the wheel' policy.
All the makers of SimPE, without which this mod would never have made any progress.
And jonasn, who keeps answering all my questions.
| Filename | Type | Size |
|---|---|---|
| KittyCarey_easyTokenCheck.7z | 7z | |
| KittyCarey_easyTokenCheck.package | package | 288 |
| Filename | Type | Size |
|---|---|---|
| KittyCarey_easyMemoryCheck.7z | 7z | |
| KittyCarey_easyMemoryCheck.package | package | 288 |
| Filename | Type | Size |
|---|---|---|
| KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-3YD-v2-0.7z | 7z | |
| KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-3YD-v2-0.package | package | 166999 |
| Filename | Type | Size |
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| KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees_Careers.7z | 7z | |
| Architecture.package | package | 1650 |
| Artist.package | package | 1746 |
| Athletics.package | package | 1650 |
| Business.package | package | 1650 |
| Culinary.package | package | 1650 |
| Dance.package | package | 1650 |
| Education.package | package | 1746 |
| Entertainment.package | package | 1650 |
| Intelligence.package | package | 1650 |
| Journalism.package | package | 1650 |
| Law.package | package | 1746 |
| LawEnforcement.package | package | 1650 |
| Medicine.package | package | 1746 |
| Military.package | package | 1650 |
| Music.package | package | 1650 |
| NaturalScience.package | package | 1746 |
| Oceanography.package | package | 1650 |
| Paranormal.package | package | 1746 |
| Politics.package | package | 1650 |
| Science.package | package | 1746 |
| ShowBusiness.package | package | 1746 |
| Slacker.package | package | 1650 |
| Filename | Type | Size |
|---|---|---|
| KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-2YD-v2-0.7z | 7z | |
| KittyCarey-DoctorsNeedDegrees-2YD-v2-0.package | package | 167045 |
The following custom content is required for this download to function properly! Please make sure you download it before downloading the files!
- Smarter EP Check by Cyjon
Note from the Creator:
Then get all three other downloads (though if you've already got the easyTokenCheck or easyMemoryCheck elsewhere you don't need to download them again).
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Install Instructions
1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.
2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.
3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
- Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
- Non-Origin, Windows Vista/7/8/10: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
- Non-Origin, Windows XP: Documents and Settings\(Current User Account)\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
- Mac: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads
- Mac x64: /Library/Containers/com.aspyr.sims2.appstore/Data/Library/Application Support/Aspyr/The Sims 2/Downloads
- For a full, complete guide to downloading complete with pictures and more information, see: Game Help: Downloading for Fracking Idiots.
- Custom content not showing up in the game? See: Game Help: Getting Custom Content to Show Up.
- If you don't have a Downloads folder, just make one. See instructions at: Game Help: No Downloads Folder.
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Uploaded: 10th Jun 2021 at 5:45 PM
Updated: Today at 3:09 PM
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| Base Game | |
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| Expansion Pack | |
|---|---|
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