A while back, I had Mom and Dad and their twin daughters. When Mom and Dad divorced, Dad went to live in a bachelor pad on the other side of town, and Mom crammed the three of them into a tiny apartment. When she was killed by a mysterious cloud of flies, the daughters (children at this point) were taken by the social workers. When Dad adopted them, I didn't realize they would have no memories whatsoever!
So, two things -- would it be possible (or has it already done) for a mod or something that allows adopted children to keep their memories?
And, two, I wonder if it would be possible for a mod that -- if the children had any adult living relatives, that is -- automatically moved them in with their next of kin?

I don't know of one, but you need the WCIF (where can I find?) forum.

For these sims that it's already happened to, you can install SimPE, the package editor, and restore the desired relationships and memory manually. Memories are tedious to deal with, but you shouldn't have to restore every memory, just the ones that are most important to you.

Always make a back up of your neighborhood before opening SimPE!

I meant to turn this into a more broad, how often do you adopt type thread... I'm not sure what happened there.

FUN. I just installed SimPE about a week ago, so I'm still learning the ropes.

Since we're talking about adopted kids losing memories, I might as well ask this here since it related:

Let's say I get a child taken by the SW for any reason it maybe, let's say death for example, and I want their aunt to be their guardian/godparent, and that is to have the child in question live with them. Is it possible to use a mod to summon the child to the lot where this aunt resides and not risk losing their memories, or do they lose their memories once they're taken by the SW?

I don't want them to forget the memories of losing their parents.

If you summon them, and add them to the family, it might work. If you set the aunt (or whoever) as the mother, they'll keep memories, but the family ties might be a bit screwed-up.

I don't think there is a way to stop the SW from coming (without a mod) if there are no other living adults on the lot.

However-- you *can* use either the SimBlender or Inge's Teleporter (if you are in a pre-Seasons game) on the lot of your "guardian" to summon the children onto the new lot. If you use the "adopt" function I think it erases the family ties to their parents, but if you have the option to simply "move in" then their old family tree should remain intact. I don't remember if children/toddlers can only be adopted... and if you have babies taken away, there's no way to summon them other than by adoption via SW, because the game doesn't treat babies as proper sims.

Well, it's been a while since I've seen a child be taken away by a social worker. Since deleting Sims is a VBT, and tinkering with certain memories is also a VBT, what effect does the social worker taking a child away have on neighborhoods corruption-wise?

Yeah, that's what I'm planning on doing. But excluding the par where the aunt is set as the mother, there's no need for that.



That's not what's bothering me, as long as the memories stay intact.



Please tell me the part about babies is NOT true. I'm not sure whether baby do keep memories, though. Hmmm...

M.M.A.A, I imagine the best bet would be to backup and just try it. If it works, it worked. If not, find a solution then

Ok, gonna test it with the Bell's from DV. Will be back with updates.

ETA: Updates everyone! And sorry for the double post, thought it might be appropriate to separate them.

So, I went to the Bell's house and moved out Sharon, the aunt, and moved her into her own place.



Then I went back to the Bell's, killed off the parents, leaving Daniel out of the mess.



The social worker came for Daniel. Took him and took off. Then I saved and returned back to Sharon, and used 'The Summoner' from the Insimenator mod, and the name 'Bell' appeared, to my surprise, and when I clicked on it, Only Daniel Bell was listed, so I summoned him.



I made him selectable and checked his relationships:



He didn't lose any of them! His parents still show up! He didn't lose any of his memories either:




Before doing anything, make sure you have this: http://www.insimenator.org/index.php?topic=91632.0 installed in your Downloads folder.

To cut things short:

1- Once the parents/adults die leaving behind only children, allow the social worker to take them.

2- Save and leave the lot and choose a godparent of your choice. Enter their lot, use either Simblender or the 'The Summoner' from Insimenator to summon the orphan in question.

3- Use either mods to 'Move in' the child in question.

Their family links and memories will NOT be lost!

However, some one needs to do the same thing for toddlers and babies.

None to my knowledge. When a Sim is taken away, it isn't deleted in any way, and I believe no dangerous memories are deleted, or no memories are deleted unsafely.

Why should the social worker cause corruption? The child goes into the adoption pool and its memories are wiped clean on adoption.

Now, dating the social worker is a no-no; but I've never heard even a rumor that letting the SW fulfill her designated function is a no-no; nor have I heard of bad results (beyond the usual possibility of hack conflicts) from mods that prevent her from coming.

M.M.A.A. you summon him you did not adopt him and when you do the adoption in-game way is when they lose every thing, or at least the 1 and only time it happen in 1 of my hoods way back when I only had the DD they lost all memories and family ties.

So your way will let them keep there memories and family ties, this is good to know.

Whenever I had to kill off the last adult for story purposes I always hired the nanny beforehand. She counts as an adult, so you just save before she decides to leave and then the kid is alone in his family. Move him out. Move him into family of choice.

Although no social worker hacks might also work.

I'm about 99.9% sure it's true (I am away for the holiday and don't have my game to check), because babies don't show up in the list of sims you can summon via a modded object. And sims don't have any memories prior to the toddler stage, as far as I know. Checking all of this is easy-- make a test hood and use the tombstone of L&D to start a pregnancy, speed it up, and then once the baby is born see if its name shows up via any of the various summoning objects. If not, then you're stuck getting babies via the adoption function only.

They do actually

I've had babies that have "met Grandpa So&So" (Grandparents came to visit day after baby was born) "Grandma So&So died" (on lot due to an uncle's poor cooking skill) & "What's his face joined the family" (older sibling married). I let babies have a few extra days of babyhood so they are more apt to earn more memories & relationship points with family.

Actually, babies can be summoned onto other lots.

I haven't tried it with a baby that had been taken by the social worker, but I was able to use Inge's teleporter to summon a baby from another household to a sim's home and move them into the household. Wouldn't it work the same if they had been taken for adoption?

I have had babies taken away and summoned them using the Insimenator though I don't remember the household it was in.....I have also done this when my babies glitched and disappeared during a botched move out. I then just used the move in feature to add them to the household.

Anybody know off hand if Townie No Memory Loss works for the social worker?

I checked this again using the teleporter cat. Gave one infant up for adoption using the cat and let the social worker take one. Then I used the cat to summon both babies into a new family. It worked perfectly fine and the babies retained their memories.

This post seems to have been overlooked, if you don't need the SW to take the kids that is even easier. I believe once the nanny is there with children she will never leave, so the kids could also look after themselves.

The "invite all neighbors" option on the mailbox (requires testingcheatsenabled) summons infants, so yes, they can be summoned.

It might have helped in my case, since I do have in it my Downloads folder.